wakeboardfusion

how to i get 17 volts of power to my amp??

Mitchel

what size of amp do you have??

wakeboardfusion

visonik v900hc...its gunna be ran at 1000x2 RMS

rmh3093

you cant, alternators charge at ~14.4v so thats usually as high as u can get

RR32CLS

would be nice, but

Mitchel

try hooking up an extra battery. That would be all that you would need i think. you wouldn't have to mess around with an alternator

wakeboardfusion

would i hook it up to the alternatar too so it wouldnt just run out of juice?

proaudio22

Ok both of you two doods that posted last just need to take it to a shop and have it installed...mkay...

baka_t

Dc step up transformer i dont know if its safe and stable enough to run an amp though.

Mitchel

i would ask around about the extra battery. i am not installing anything, but why take it to a shop, pay money, and have some jackass do something that will probably mess it up worse than what it is.....mkay...

Mitchel

if you were to run another battery you would have to run your power wire off your battery to your trunk then hook the extra battery to that power wire. I thought about doing it myself but i was afraid it might do something to the electical system or something like that...

rmh3093

To properly install a second battery you will need to wire a special circuit which will isolate the second battery with a big 30A diode and a relay to prevent the car from pulling power from the second battery when you start your car and to charge both batterys and you will have to make sure your circuit can make sure the primary batter always maintains a certian level (12v) charging the second battery sholdnt not take over maintaing charge on the first battery.

proaudio22

I said that because what you said was ridiculous. You can't even do what rmh3093 suggested. His suggestion would be for two batteries in PARALLEL, resulting in 12v. Even if his suggestion did work, it would cost you $300+ for the second battery+isolator, which would prob be enough difference to just buy a normal amp instead.

You would need to wire the batteries in SERIES to get a higher voltage, and you would get 24v. However, there is NO way to do this, short of using a step up transformer, like what was suggested before (There aren't any large enough to hande this kind of load tho and the biggest ones are $500+). There is no way to charge the second battery that is in parallel unless you are on a 24v system. Plus, there is a good change 24v is too high for whatever wanted 17v. You can't just stick batteries all over the place and pull higher voltages outa ur ass. I suggested both of you go to a shop that knows what they are doing so you don't damage your cars.

The best solution to this problem to to forget about that silly amp and get something that runs off normal car voltages.

RR32CLS

werd.

the "special circuit" is called an isolater. stinger makes a decent one. they run in many different amp resistances. 80,100, 120....

what you could do if you really wanted to series batteries, is get 2 smaller 8volt batteries and series those to get 16volts.

or just get a marine battery, usually has about 800-900 amps



the only shops that usuallly fuck shit up is circuit city and best buy, and the customer themselves.

proaudio22

That might work, but you would either have to run completly off the batteries after you charge them each night (or w/e) or you would have to make a step up circuit to charge them at 16v together (you can't charge them at 8v each b/c they are in series).

Regardless, all that would cost too much money vs. just buying a real amp...

RR32CLS

true. i dont really understand why he is worried about his visonik amp.. there are far more superior amps than this one and no one is really complaining about get 17 volts.

its not that serious.

rmh3093

Stinger makes an isolator??? I didnt know that, I helped make one for my friends 97 Cougar 2 years ago.

proaudio22

Yea, tons of companies make them Stinger, Lighting Audio, etc etc.

RR32CLS

i have a few stinger 120amp isolaters instock.

Bigpimpin18

if someone were to install a second battery wut would be the best way, get an isolator from one battery and go to the other and than have ur seperate batteries or how would u do that??

CL'er

A: the only thing that would use 17 volts would be a 24v cap, because all amps are 15.5volts max the rest gets discarded to Negative. now saying that if they did make an amp that used 17 volts its gotta be shitty.

B: You can use circuit breakers to hook up 2 batterys, stinger made one for like 69.99 You would hook up the positive to positiive on both batterys, and within 18 inches of both ends of the battery you would put that 120amp circuit breaker. That way if for chance when your car starts and sucks juice from the other battery the breaker will trip before. it auto resets after 5-10 seconds. also goes vice versa for when your amp draws the power it will trip the second breaker and auto reset...

Bigpimpin18

well last time I did install dual batteries I used 200A ANL fuses instead of circuit breakers and than grounded them. But but someone was saying to use an isolator but those cost like 120 bucks.

NbCLguy

GOD NO!!!!! what are you people talking about? there is no pratical way to pull 17 volts from ANY battery combination!! (i have an s-10 show truck with a bag setup that pulls 190 amps, crazy stereo and it's electical system itself draws more then two of my cl's. Bottom line there is no purpose to run that amp at 17 volts. Only way to do this is running a 24 volt system two batts in series and then straight to a cap which will like said above dump everything over 17 volts into negative energy so is essentially useless but the amount of money you will pay to get an UPGRADED ALTERNATOR to charge your stock battery PLUS two batterys would out weigh just about any amp.....reason for two EXTRA batterys is because you can't run your car off a 24 volt system you will burn your CL to the ground if you have any more questions that i haven't covered pm me i can give you WAY more info then what has been put out here, or if you'd like to dispute what i said post away i am willing to take on what ever ideas you guys got

97BlackAckCL

iTrader: (6)

battery is 12 Volts, alternator is about 14 volts, no way to get 17 volts

wilp99

id just get 1 2f caps and call it the day.

wakeboardfusion

holey old thread... i never got that amp