VeiLsTyleZ

so if i wanted to add another screen i hook up the rca to the video output on the decoder?

asif2002

How are the graphics look on the navi moniter? How is the quality with DVD?

asiankidd

yep pretty much...the video out is the same signal thats going in....like the output on a dvd player or a ps2.....think of it like that....

VeiLsTyleZ

dope thanks


oh and Asif2002

the picture quality is awsome~~well good enuff for me~

asiankidd

any one here able to add a tv tuner? to their vdo and navi mod.....i want to play dvd's and have tv tuner.....

bebber

Asiankidd,

I just have a ghetto home vcr hooked up at the moment in my car so I can watch videos and receive some tv channels off the vcr.
Reception is pretty bad overall, I tapped into the car radio antenna for a signal (which receives channels 2-7 fine) and put on a cheap dipole antenna (which seems to receive channels 9-13 better), but when I combine them, the effect doesn't seem to be cumulative. Maybe with the addition of two antennas, the impedance becomes off or some of the signals overpower the weaker channels. I'm not sure. I'm still trying to work on the antenna position to get things working well. I might try and get an antenna filter too, or rf amplifier at a later time.

At any rate, tv reception is decent when the car is stopped but becomes choppy when the car is in motion. If you get a tuner tv built for cars with a diversity receiver, the reception will be slightly better. A diversity receiver uses multiple antennas usually 2 or 4 and rapidly switches between the anteannas to get a more accurate signal. This switching helps to reduce multipath interference and doppler effect that occurs when you have a moving receiver. You could get this more expensive tv tuner option, but I don't think the quality would improve much to justify the extra cost. Bottom line: with antiquated tv broadcasts (analog am and fm with sideband mumbo jumbo) covering a wide range of frequencies, there is no good way to receive tv in a moving car unless you consider very expensive >$1000 receiver/antenna systems.

-beb

asiankidd

any pic of the tv mode?

asiankidd

are their any dvd/tv tuner in one like vcr's?

bebber

sorry no pics yet. nothing much to see anyhow.

If you want to check it out, maybe we'll bump into each other at another meet or just visit sometime. Fullerton and Anaheim Hills ain't exactly far away.

There is a Dvd with built in regular tv tuner made by Pyle. That is the only one I've seen. Should cost around $225. I'm thinking about getting that for my car at some point. Haven't seen this selling in any local stores, but it does appear on ebay every now and then.

VeiLsTyleZ

check this out~~
dvd/tv tuner


bebber...i wanna see how you set that up one day...sorry i couldnt make it to your church

adv1911

How much should it cost me to have a place like Hi-fi Buys do my nav to video transformation....and does anyone have the rearview camera hooked up to the nav.......holla

asif2002

I think a guy named Neastor on the Honda Oddesey board has done something like this. Also someone on here. I was thinking about it yesterday as well. Let me know if you get any info.

bebber

I'm not familiar with Hi-fi Buys, but I'd say most retail shops would not want to mess with this kind of thing. I've already tried asking around and no one would take responsibility for messing up the navi system. I think some members on this board have a rearview camera hooked up. You can either get the Japanese Inspire spoiler with the rear camera built in, or you can go about trying to put your own camera in somewhere.

bebber

here's a sample of tv reception on my navi. it looks better in real life cause my camera doesn't seem to take good pics in the dark.

bebber

off of a vcr

bebber

isn't the wiring neat?

asif2002

Nice and clean. I like that blue light under the driver foot well. How did you wire that up and how much it cost?

bebber

I put in four neon footwell lights in the car, two underneath the dash and two underneath the front seats to provide illumination for all four footwells. Cheap mod, but everyone seems to marvel at it. I got the front two tubes from WalMart, surprisingly. Only $10 a tube! They were too long to fit under the seats, so I got shorter ones from AutoZone for $19 a tube.

I wired them all together, connecting the +12v to constant power. I connected the Gnd of the lights to a SPDT switch. One terminal of the switch I connected to Gnd. One terminal I connected to the door trigger wire (located in the passenger fuse box) going through a diode first. This arrangment allows the lights to come on whenever a door is opened and when the car is first disarmed, just like the domelight. I can also flip the switch and leave them on permanently, like while cruizin. Or I can leave the switch in the middle position and have the lights disabled.

The neat thing about the install, is I concealed all the lamps and wires. You'd never know they were even in there until they light up at night.

Ok, so don't y'all go out copying me now.

VeiLsTyleZ

lookin good josh~

adv1911

I had them since 1994 in my Honda Accord. They were under the dash. People loved them.....but I grew out of them.....enjoy them though.....people will jock you for them

bebber

footwell lights?: I did install an "off" switch if I ever did get tired of them. Then I can turn them back on for "mood" lighting when needed.

I was irritated that the navi screen would self-power down whenever the vehicle was stopped with the engine off after only a couple minutes of inactivity. This is fine for navi purposes, but not for video-on-my-navi purposes. You can keep it from shutting down by entering the diagnostic mode each time you watch (menu+map+cancel), but that ended up being a chore for me. I demanded a better solution.

There is a wire going into the small 8 pin connector of the navi trunk unit that is white and blue near the top of the connector. This is the "engine on" signal wire. It delivers a +12V signal to the navi trunk unit whenever the engine is on.

You can mod this simply by cutting the wire and connecting the end that goes to the navi trunk unit to accessory switched +12V, leaving the other end of the wire disconnected. If you don't cut the wire and splice in +12v, you'll blow your accessory relay fuse and activate your SRS, check engine lights. I know this, cause that's what I did at first.
With this arrangement. You'll never ever seen your "This system will shut down no to conserve battery" screen again.

Another, perhaps better, way of modding this wire is to use two diodes or a standard SPDT relay. If you use the relay, you would connect the "engine on" wire that goes to the navi trunk unit to the common terminal, connect the other end of the "engine on" wire to the N.C. terminal, and connect the N.O. terminal to +12v. For the coil of the relay, connect one terminal to gnd, and the other terminal to the same switched power that activates your "video" mode.
If you use the diodes instead, then use one diode to connect the cut "engine on" wire back together. Connect the striped end (cathode, aka, negative end) of the diode to the wire going to the navi trunk unit. Connect the anode end of the diode to the wire coming from the front of the car. Now connect the second diode, again with the cathode end going to the "engine on" wire into navi trunk unit, but connect the anode end of this diode to the +12v switched power that becomes active whenever you enable your "video" mode.

Using either the diode or the relay method, the navi screen will never shut off while your "video" mode is enabled, but will shut off like normal after a certain period of inactivity in the "navi" mode with the engine off.

So take your pick of methods. I think the second way is better. I used the two diode method in mine. The first way is much easier to implement. You just cut the "engine on wire" and splice it with the accessory power wire that's in the same 8 pin navi connector.

PS: When hooking up diodes to wires, it's best to wrap the end of a wire to the diode terminal and solder it on. Follow up with electrical tape and heat shrink tubing to make a really solid, vibration-resistant connection.

adv1911

Can anyone in the Atlanta area or any other place...please tell me who has the AVC-RGB1 or any similar part that will allow me to do the NAV-Video conversion.......Please help

nick79

i am getting a navi- video conversion using my existing dvd player from my navi. i am wondering about getting a t.v. tuner, if i do get one. do i need a outside antenna... will it loook ugly>?????
i got a 3.2 TL type S with navi, no mods yet

adv1911

Whuz up man....explain again...how are you doing the conversion? ....are you using a rgb to composite converter? How are you using the existing DVD player from the NAVi

nick79

i ordered the pioneer rgb1 decoder. i dont know anything about this. i think i can use the dvd player i got from the navi.

am i right?

also for the tuner. do i need a antenna . i am afriad it might look ugly.

VeiLsTyleZ

you cant use the factory navi dvd rom...the rgb conversion is so you can only use the factory screen.

nick79

i am a idiot any1 know where to buy a nice cheap dvd player that has tuner//////


slap me

adv1911

I could not find the Pioneer joint so I ordered this Clarion RGB to Composite Converter. It should work. Good DVD players run $300 and up...or just get the Playstation.

nick79

i know where u can order the rgb1 decoder.
its at buyloud.com

VeiLsTyleZ

my friend sells NEW dvd players with a built in tuner for $199 by nesa
let me know

adv1911

Guys,
Since I just bought the Clarion RGB Converter to replace the pioneer AVC-RGB1, did Imake a mistake. The part I ordered is "RGB to composite" as opposed to "composite to RGB"....does it matter, or is it the same

nick79

what model is the nesa, i am interested

asiankidd

it wont work...your video source is a composite signal and the navi need the rgb...the one you got is vice versa....no help there

VeiLsTyleZ

uhmmm im not sure but it looks like this

bebber

Nice looking unit. That remote control looks very basic. I hope it can control all the dvd and tuner functions. Is that what you're planning on putting in your car, Simon? Return the PS/2 to home duty.

VeiLsTyleZ

no i got the blaupunkt dvd player...its pretty dope....i like it a lot. well for the price that is. the reason i got a dvd player was cuz i didnt want to use the power converter....cuz it affects the sound on the fm modulator..and the dvd is direct 12v.........anyways...heres a pic

adv1911

Thanks for the heads up....I ordered the correct joint from another site and canceled the clarion order...is there anything else I should know?........How long should the install take?

pangpang77

adv1911,

Where did you order the composite to RGB decoder? Can you e-mail me at pangpang77@hotmail.com?

Thanks a lot,
pangpang77

bnaderi

hey bebber, can you send me an email at bnaderi@hotmail.com, i have some questions for you and i cant PM, thanx - bobby

bnaderi

hey asiankidd, im ready to hook up and install my navi to dvd, i dunno if your still gonna help me or not but i personally dont have any clue what to do, send me an email so we can see wassup thanx - bobby