Wheel and tire questions I couldnt find an answer for
08-29-2015, 06:34 PM
#1
Wheel and tire questions I couldnt find an answer for
shoppin for wheels and tires for my 04 ABP TL stock through and through
1. what wheel has a deeper lip, 18x9+50mm or 18x9+25mm?
i'm lookin at the Konig SSM with black spokes and offset confuses the hell outta me for some reason lol
2. what size tire should i run if i am at stock heighth & suspension etc, i dont want to roll my fenders, and i am going to eventually lower it .5" (its my daily driver so i dont wana go too low and i dont wana lose to much ride quality)
thanks in advance yall
1. what wheel has a deeper lip, 18x9+50mm or 18x9+25mm?
i'm lookin at the Konig SSM with black spokes and offset confuses the hell outta me for some reason lol
2. what size tire should i run if i am at stock heighth & suspension etc, i dont want to roll my fenders, and i am going to eventually lower it .5" (its my daily driver so i dont wana go too low and i dont wana lose to much ride quality)
thanks in advance yall
08-30-2015, 08:02 PM
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When it comes to offset, a number closer to 0 means it's more aggressive, or closer to the fender. Therefore, your 18x9 +25 is "flusher" than a 18x9 +50.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
If you're easily confused with offset and such now, wait to order wheels until you really understand what's out there and what the TL can handle with minimal work.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
If you're easily confused with offset and such now, wait to order wheels until you really understand what's out there and what the TL can handle with minimal work.
Last edited by CLtotheTL32; 08-30-2015 at 08:06 PM.
08-30-2015, 08:06 PM
#3
When it comes to offset, a number closer to 0 means it's more aggressive, or closer to the fender. Therefore, your 18x9 +25 is "flusher" than a 18x9 +50.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
Last edited by Usmcgrunt47; 08-30-2015 at 08:09 PM. Reason: Missed info in reply
08-30-2015, 08:15 PM
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If you keep the width the same as stock (8"), I wouldn't choose an offset less than +30, especially if you don't want to roll your rear fenders.
08-30-2015, 09:14 PM
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08-30-2015, 09:21 PM
#6
When it comes to offset, a number closer to 0 means it's more aggressive, or closer to the fender. Therefore, your 18x9 +25 is "flusher" than a 18x9 +50.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
If you're easily confused with offset and such now, wait to order wheels until you really understand what's out there and what the TL can handle with minimal work.
As for tire size, consider 235/40/18. However, since +25 is pretty aggressive, you might want a 225/40/18 so you can run less negative camber to clear the fenders. You'll need to roll your rear fenders with the +25 setup as well; the wheel is 1" wider than stock and the offset is over 3/4" more aggressive than stock too.
If you're easily confused with offset and such now, wait to order wheels until you really understand what's out there and what the TL can handle with minimal work.
08-31-2015, 09:04 PM
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It won't be quite that dramatic, but yes, a 225 on a 9" wide wheel will be a bit stretched.
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09-01-2015, 12:01 PM
#8
A 9" wheel really needs a 245/255/265. 245 will have a slight stretch, and 265 will be perfect square. I have 265's on 9.5, and they have a slight stretch.
Meat. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
Meat. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
09-01-2015, 12:31 PM
#9
A 9" wheel really needs a 245/255/265. 245 will have a slight stretch, and 265 will be perfect square. I have 265's on 9.5, and they have a slight stretch.
Meat. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
Meat. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
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VisualEchos (09-01-2015)
09-01-2015, 01:55 PM
#10
visual...do you have any side shots! is that a 265 in front as well?
I run 19x8.5 35mm offset in rear, have to roll lips a little.
Dropped on Tein about 1.5" I have adjustable upper control arms and took a little of the negative camber out. I am at like -1. I plan to go to 255/35 rear this fall with new tires!
I run 19x8.5 35mm offset in rear, have to roll lips a little.
Dropped on Tein about 1.5" I have adjustable upper control arms and took a little of the negative camber out. I am at like -1. I plan to go to 255/35 rear this fall with new tires!
Last edited by blownby; 09-01-2015 at 01:57 PM.
09-01-2015, 03:27 PM
#11
Thanks for the compliments guys.
Front and rear are the same, specs are as follows:
18 x 9.5 +40
265/35/18
Rear quarter front edge rolled a bit
Front negative camber is -.06°
Rear negative camber is -2.2°
I'm not sure the drop amount, but the tire top is just below the lip. Here are some more pix for you guys.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/visual...57657995549346
Front and rear are the same, specs are as follows:
18 x 9.5 +40
265/35/18
Rear quarter front edge rolled a bit
Front negative camber is -.06°
Rear negative camber is -2.2°
I'm not sure the drop amount, but the tire top is just below the lip. Here are some more pix for you guys.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/visual...57657995549346
09-01-2015, 06:20 PM
#12
That wheel will poke almost 9mm more than mine, so you'll have to go lower, or run more negative camber to make it work with a 265. Probably both. You'll be better off with a 255/35 tire, it's a bit shorter, which will cause you to go lower to decrease the gap, giving you more negative camber, and allowing for the extra 9mm. 245 would be safest, but I think you could do a 255 with a little work.
09-01-2015, 07:19 PM
#13
That wheel will poke almost 9mm more than mine, so you'll have to go lower, or run more negative camber to make it work with a 265. Probably both. You'll be better off with a 255/35 tire, it's a bit shorter, which will cause you to go lower to decrease the gap, giving you more negative camber, and allowing for the extra 9mm. 245 would be safest, but I think you could do a 255 with a little work.
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VisualEchos (09-01-2015)
09-01-2015, 07:40 PM
#14
I hear you, I love that concave look, and I love wide tires, so I had to strike a balance. I originally wanted 18 x 10 +55's wrapped in 275/35 tires, but it's much more difficult to do that, requiring camber kits front and rear, and a hard roll.
09-01-2015, 07:47 PM
#15
That would look siiiick! Now sorry if im beatin a dead horse here but would i be able to run the same kinda setup you hav on stock heighth/suspension? 18x9.5 +40 w/ 265/35-18? Or do i have to lower it before i can run that setup? And could i go to a +35 or is +40 pushing it?
09-01-2015, 07:58 PM
#16
That would look siiiick! Now sorry if im beatin a dead horse here but would i be able to run the same kinda setup you hav on stock heighth/suspension? 18x9.5 +40 w/ 265/35-18? Or do i have to lower it before i can run that setup? And could i go to a +35 or is +40 pushing it?
Summer. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
The front did poke about 4mm, but no one would notice, and it didn't bother me. Had I been running a 265 the poke would have bothered me, and the rear may have rubbed on bumps. You could do a 265 at stock height, but you'd need to live with the front poke (or get a camber kit), and roll the rear.
If I were you, I would forget any offset lower than +40 if you want a 265 tire. And even then, you would probably need to choose a skinny 265, as all 265's aren't created equal. I really wanted Conti DW Extreme's, but they run a little wide, so I chose the Goodyear AS2's.
09-01-2015, 08:12 PM
#17
At stock height I had 18 x 9.5 +40 with a 255/40, no roll, and no rubbing.
Summer. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
The front did poke about 4mm, but no one would notice, and it didn't bother me. Had I been running a 265 the poke would have bothered me, and the rear may have rubbed on bumps. You could do a 265 at stock height, but you'd need to live with the front poke (or get a camber kit), and roll the rear.
If I were you, I would forget any offset lower than +40 if you want a 265 tire. And even then, you would probably need to choose a skinny 265, as all 265's aren't created equal. I really wanted Conti DW Extreme's, but they run a little wide, so I chose the Goodyear AS2's.
Summer. by Andrew Thompson, on Flickr
The front did poke about 4mm, but no one would notice, and it didn't bother me. Had I been running a 265 the poke would have bothered me, and the rear may have rubbed on bumps. You could do a 265 at stock height, but you'd need to live with the front poke (or get a camber kit), and roll the rear.
If I were you, I would forget any offset lower than +40 if you want a 265 tire. And even then, you would probably need to choose a skinny 265, as all 265's aren't created equal. I really wanted Conti DW Extreme's, but they run a little wide, so I chose the Goodyear AS2's.
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