Was a major PITA, but well worth it in the end. A big thank you to forum member and friend gerzand.
Bottom line, each the fronts took less time then one of the rear. Overall the suspension on the 4G is more then a PITA to work on then the 3G - and at the recommended drop levels that TEIN gives you the OEM 18's do tuck.
The EDFC is not too bad. Depending on where you install the controller is another story. I chose the glove box which meant dropping the HVAC blower unit to access the grommet on the passenger side firewall.
More picture forth coming - but for now, cell phone pics.
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I am so sad that I can't put my coils on my TLs anymore... i use my car for work more than ever now (25-30k a year) and I regularly have important corporate partners in the car, so driving a slammed, bouncy car isn't ideal...
i like my H&R springs, but DAMMMNN your car is looking BOSS
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just crossed 12k this weekend. Even with this ride height it is not bouncy or harsh, actually on the TEIN recommended setting (6) it's softer then stock at this height. I have 3 presets for my driving programed into the EDFC - 6, 8, and 10 - even at 10 the ride isn't bad. I wouldn't feel ashamed taking a vendor or partner out in this car at all (as I oven do!)
I'm very very impressed with the TEIN setup - esp with the addition of the EDFC controller.
With my custom 19x9 RonJons coming and the RonJon grill I'll be set for summer
that looks amazing!!!!!
so how would you rate the installation difficulty on a scale of 1-10? 1 being the easiest. I plan on eventually getting coils and would like to install them myself.
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Those pictures are pre-alignment. We had to undo a bit of the rear suspension to get the rear struts out.
As for difficulty - make sure you have a friend, and knowing the TL's suspension is very helpful. Both andy (grezand) and I have worked on the 3rd gen's suspension before installing our own, and others coilovers.
For the 4th Gen TEIN SS you will re-use the OEM top hats. it does require un-doing of a bit of the rear suspension to remove the strut. You can do it without removing the end-links but it's a PITA. Front's are way easy. You're normal 14mm and 12mm bolts up top, and the bolts holding in the forks and it drops away.
If I had to rate the difficulty with EDFC I would put it at a 9. If you choose to use the OEM grommet on the firewall to pull the front EDFC wires through you'll find it's not accessible by removing the glove box. You must drop the blower motor in order to access the grommet and pull the wires through. Then tap into a 12v switched, 12v constant (fuse panel with open slot in kick panel) ground, and dimmer in for the EDFC unit.
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Nexson -- Ride is real good even with drop. Without EDFC and adjusted to TEIN's recommend setting (full hard) then back off 10 -- so that makes it 6 and 6 front and rear it runs slightly softer then stock. With the OEM 18's I feel less imperfections in the road, and it still remains taught when needed.
upnout -- Agree I can't stop looking at it. My friend and I are going to have to compare clearances and ride heights from 4G to 3G because he has a similar drop
Steven -- The coils do make a difference - knowing I did the work again, while in the end may have busted a few knuckles was well worth it. I have a whole new admiration for my car!
if the rim / wheel combo your running will not allow correction after camber kit installation it's time to roll your fenders.
drop + wide wheels/aggressive offset(s) often necessitate rolling of fenders. to achieve that perfect stance.
I just might do that, well I can't do anything over here, but I will be back in a couple weeks and then I will get back at it. My only other option is rotate the tires more often to keep the wear down I guess.
How is asking which camber kit he choose off topic?? Is the question suspension related to JNC's setup? Yes... Has JNC clearly stated the amount of drop he's on with the neg camber he was currently at on post #16? Yes... Thanks for answering the "off topic question" which wasn't directed towards you
No the manufacture can not blatantly void the warranty on the car due to the installation of an aftermarket part. However, if the aforementioned aftermarket component causes a failure / or compromises the integrity of an OEM part which would question the legality of a warranty clause they would be within their rights to void the warranty on that part of the car.
IE: Coil overs -- and you have suspension problems afterwords.
-- they couldn't not cover something not directly related (ex: EGR/ drive train -- unless the it is a drive-shaft and they intent to prove adverse wear due to stress of the aftermarket component....) -- you see its really a grey area in you need to really read up on your rights as a consumer. Hold the dealer to the wall if you have an issue, and don't be afraid to press it if you feel you are within your rights. Now if you cause a failure and try to get it covered... man up and pay for it.
Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Imagine Accord Coupe V6 6MT with DI engine and LSD with Pilot Super Sport. It will be in class of M3.
Ingalls and Eibach also make camber kits as well for the 4G.. Clearly you haven't done your research... All are reputable brands with comparable prices..
oh sorry i miss this.. but were you looking for just a front ball joint and a rear toe arm? because that is what Ingall offers.
what about your rear lateral arm and rear camber arm? I was under the impression that you were looking for a full 3 piece rear kit with a front ball joint kit..
You are right that they are all reputable brands but Eibach and SPC are the same product, eibach just sells it with their name on it. if you go to eibach and spc website and look at their part number, you will know..
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