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24" Rims!!!

Ok, I want to put 24" bad boys on my 03 3.2 TL and want to know what I need to do to be able to do this... If anyone has any advice about this or suggestions either telling me how or not to do it, it would be much appreciated.
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24" Rims!!!

Ok, I want to put 24" bad boys on my 03 3.2 TL and want to know what I need to do to be able to do this... If anyone has any advice about this or suggestions either telling me how or not to do it, it would be much appreciated.
Please tell me you're kidding, right? This is how ridiculously stupid the 2nd gen looks with 22's

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You make a stong point. What about 20"... what do I have to do so they will fit and not rub?
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Nevermind, I think Im going to stick with 18" rims... Just gotta get the flyest kind! Any suggestions? Looking for chrome finish.
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Well, shit maybe 19"... HELP ME OUT GUYS! lol
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
Two answer? I thought that it might fit better with a 55mm offset rather than a 45mm offset...
-- +55 will fit better than +45 ... but read this in the first posting of this thread:

Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset

> 8.5" rim ... forget it unless you wanna do some custom bodywork for it to fit.
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Originally Posted by pokerbumportal
Well, shit maybe 19"... HELP ME OUT GUYS! lol
There are a lot more 19" rims out there that fit than 20" rims. Some have made 20s fit but some mod work (cutting tabs, rolling fenders) are highly recommended! Do a search ... keep in mind of the offsets required for the various rim widths (see post above).

Not too many on this board with chrome rims ... but there are a few out there.
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Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset

> 8.5" rim ... forget it unless you wanna do some custom bodywork for it to fit.
Does a 2004 TL rims (17 x 8, +45 offset, 235/45/17) fit into 2001 TL without rubbing or sticking out? Anyone with this setup?
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Originally Posted by FreeIsGood
Does a 2004 TL rims (17 x 8, +45 offset, 235/45/17) fit into 2001 TL without rubbing or sticking out? Anyone with this setup?
Many have this setup. Personally, I don't think the 3rd gen rims work on a 2nd gen, but to each, their own. If you lower your car, you will definitely need to cut tabs +/- roll fenders for it to work. Do a search and you can see what it looks like.
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19x7.5, +45 offset, 225/35/19 ... fit 99 3.2 tl.... does anyone run this setup lowered with coilovers.... let me know what you think.
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Originally Posted by derrick
All,

When purchasing rims for a car, there are several specifications to ensure a good 'fit'.

1) rim size
2) rim width
3) offset
4) bolt pattern

Rims range from 16" to 19" for our cars. Any smaller and they won't clear the OEM calipers. Any larger and you will have issues with 'rubbing'. I'm sure someone will say, "I got [XX] size to fit", but seriously -- look at their setup and most will not find that look very appealing.

Rim width and offset go hand-in-hand. Depending on your rim width, you have to watch the offset. The wider the rim, the higher the offset (so it doesn't rub up against the wheel well or plastic tabs of the fender when you hit a bump).

Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset

> 8.5" rim ... forget it unless you wanna do some custom bodywork for it to fit.

This is only a guideline, not an end-all, be-all. Those who have done suspension work may have to find a higher offset than that posted to make sure their application will not have any problems.

Lastly, bolt pattern -- our cars have 5x114.3JJ bolt pattern. Luckily, many rim manufacturers make this bolt pattern but offset will be your limiting factor.
Hi newbie here. I have an '03 SSM TL-S with the H&R sport spring kit, so the car is ~ 1.5 inches lower than stock. I'm looking at a 17x7 wheel with +42 offset. I'll be running the stock tire size, 215x50x17. According to what I'm reading in this thread, I shouldn't have any rubbing problems, right? Anyone have any pics of any 17x7 wheels with the same offset? I'd like to see how flush the tires are with the wheel well. Thanks!
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changing rims and tires

hi i have a 2002 tl-s with 215/50/17 michellens and 17inch rims and i would like to change the rims to 18 or 19 inch do i have to change anything to the car? and if not do i get regular 215/50/18-19 tires and regular 18-19 inch rims? what is offset?
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Originally Posted by 02 TL-S KiD
i would like to change the rims to 18 or 19 inch do i have to change anything to the car? and if not do i get regular 215/50/18-19 tires and regular 18-19 inch rims? what is offset?
Read these articles first:

http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp?type=tires

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=103

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=106

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/....jsp?techid=97

Once you find out what size you're looking for, then do a search on rim style. Hondas are notorious for high offsets (thus, little "deep dish" rims). Your choice in rims in 18", 19" applications are somewhat limited.

To find out what tire size fits, use this size calculator:

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp
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Is it possible to run a 19x8.5 and +53 offset (in the rear only [my fronts would be 19x7.5, +53]) with a H&R Sports drop and nothing beyond cutting bumper tabs? I've read that it will fit no problem with that offset but I am concerned about rubbing due to the wide wheel. I think the debate would be between 225's and 235's (for instance the ST-115 that is naturally stretched) but I'm not sure if it is safe to run a 225 on a 8.5" wheel?

I know that with an H&R Sports drop you can fit 19x8's with a +45 offset or higher but tabs need to be cut and the tire must be right. Not sure on the 8.5 for the rear though...

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Acuracy02
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I know that with an H&R Sports drop you can fit 19x8's with a +45 offset or higher but tabs need to be cut and the tire must be right. Not sure on the 8.5 for the rear though...

Thanks.
I replied to your PM, not sure why you want to go starggered on a FWD TL, but I dont think it would work anyway without some fender rolling if that would even be enough.

I wouldnt say that a 19 x8 and 45 offset will def fit. You may only need to trim teh tabs, but depending on the wheel or tire, it may need more to work.

I know some guys with 19 x8's with 47 offsets would, or woudl not rub depending on tire manufacturers. One guy on this board with the same rims I had rubbed a little with Yoko's whereas I didnt at all, not even the bumper tabs with Proxes, and 235/35-19's.
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Staggered Set

I was wondering if anyone has staggered set of 19" on there second gen TL. I would like to put 19x8 front and 19x9 in the rear. Is this possible if so what offset do i need to use.
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Originally Posted by Nosb18c
I was wondering if anyone has staggered set of 19" on there second gen TL. I would like to put 19x8 front and 19x9 in the rear. Is this possible if so what offset do i need to use.
Staggered has been done but not as wide as you want to go without having major bodywork done. Largest wheel setup I have heard on this board is 8.5" rims but they had significant negative camber for it to work (aka 'tucked in' or 'toe in'). Save yourself the headache and follow the recommended widths + offsets suggested in the first post of this thread.
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the wheels that i just bought for mine's spec was 18"x 7.5" with 48+ offset

before i put them on my car, i want to know if these will stick out on my ride like those monster truck, plus i think i'm getting 225/40/18 tires for these, but not sure what is the best tire for these wheels.. some info will be appreciated...

it's 02 tl, by the way..
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Originally Posted by derrick
Staggered has been done but not as wide as you want to go without having major bodywork done. Largest wheel setup I have heard on this board is 8.5" rims but they had significant negative camber for it to work (aka 'tucked in' or 'toe in').
There is one wheel that a member has run on the TL in a 19x9 setup. It is the only rim of that size that will fit. Speedline Corse 2210 with a +55 offset. NO OTHER 19x9 wheel can fit the TL no matter what offset, fitment is completely dependant upon the wheel itself. Offset is a guide and a precaution, as in don't go lower than +45 ever, but it is not the do all end all of insuring perfect fitment.
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I have a 2000 TL lowered 3.5inches or more on tein coilovers. Would a 18X7.5 with a 45offset work on my car without rubbing. Would i have to cut the tabs and roll the fenders?? I wanted a 48 offset but they dont make them for these wheels.. Please help me Im lookin to buy these wheels this week
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Originally Posted by derrick
All,

When purchasing rims for a car, there are several specifications to ensure a good 'fit'.

1) rim size
2) rim width
3) offset
4) bolt pattern

Rims range from 16" to 19" for our cars. Any smaller and they won't clear the OEM calipers. Any larger and you will have issues with 'rubbing'. I'm sure someone will say, "I got [XX] size to fit", but seriously -- look at their setup and most will not find that look very appealing.

Rim width and offset go hand-in-hand. Depending on your rim width, you have to watch the offset. The wider the rim, the higher the offset (so it doesn't rub up against the wheel well or plastic tabs of the fender when you hit a bump).

Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset

> 8.5" rim ... forget it unless you wanna do some custom bodywork for it to fit.

This is only a guideline, not an end-all, be-all. Those who have done suspension work may have to find a higher offset than that posted to make sure their application will not have any problems.

Lastly, bolt pattern -- our cars have 5x114.3JJ bolt pattern. Luckily, many rim manufacturers make this bolt pattern but offset will be your limiting factor.
i am still curious as to why some websites say that the 8.5 wide rims fit and everyone on this website says they dont? anyone got a answer or solution?
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It is very hard for people to comment on what fits specifically or not because, as mentioned, each manufacturer is unique in the way the wheel is constructed. If you look at Rev-01's posting on the first page of his past wheels you can see that some wheels didn't rub while others did when they were the SAME width. Tires (not only width of tire, but also the actual design by the manufacturer) make a difference, as does the drop you have/ camber setting you are at. If you have a camber kit but are lowered 3" then it'll be much harder to not rub, almost impossible, as compared to if you can tuck your wheel. If you want to be slammed but still drive frequently without camber issues/tire wear my suggestion is to get air ride. I'm in the market for 19" Works, as many people have seen my posts, and I'm not going to be slammed on them because I drive my car daily pretty far to work, I'm only lowered on H&R Sports. When I buy a new daily driver my car will get coilovers. It's all based on you, your drop, your wheel brand, your tires, your offset, etc. etc. There are so many factors its hard for peeps to come on here and say, "yes, that specific setup by that manuf. will work on your car" unless they themselves have done it. Even the Type-S struts are stiffer than TL-P struts, creating a difference in what fits/rubs/rides smoothly. Just some stuff to consider.
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would ASPEC wheels work on a 2nd gen?
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Originally Posted by soontoownTL
i am still curious as to why some websites say that the 8.5 wide rims fit and everyone on this website says they dont? anyone got a answer or solution?

Because they don't have a clue about our car. They assume that people will tolerate the wheels sticking out of the wheel well and that they most likely will not drop the car.
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Originally Posted by meanglx
would ASPEC wheels work on a 2nd gen?

Remember there are two version of the A-spec 18s, 18x8.5 +45 and 18x8 +45


Yes they will bolt up, but if you have any plans on dropping the car, I would not even bother with the 8.5" width. The 8" width will still stick out but you may be able to get them to fit without rubbing by trimming the fender tabs and rolling the fender lips a little.
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does anyone know about Zyoxx rims? there's a set that looks sick, but i dont know if its any good. i think these would fit too.

http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels...oducts_id/1568
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Originally Posted by akohal
does anyone know about Zyoxx rims? there's a set that looks sick, but i dont know if its any good. i think these would fit too.
No mention of offset on that webpage. Contact the company and post the offset. For 18x7.5 ... you'd want to go with at least +45, to be safe. As for 20x8.5 ... I would bet that those won't work. Hardly anyone would mass produce rims for our cars (ie we are such a small market, it's not worth it due to the high offset requirement)
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So if you where going to get wheels in 18x7.5 but they only came in offsets of 42 or 48, which offset would work the best, since according to the first post 7.5" rim = +45 offset

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Originally Posted by c0v3rr1d3
So if you where going to get wheels in 18x7.5 but they only came in offsets of 42 or 48, which offset would work the best, since according to the first post 7.5" rim = +45 offset
The higher the offset, the less likely of rubbing. If given a choice ... +48 for sure.
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Question would these wheels fit???

Will 18' mags with 50mm offset fit???
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Originally Posted by bazokaTL
Will 18' mags with 50mm offset fit???
Need more info ... require:

1) rim size
2) rim WIDTH
3) offset

You provided (1) & (3) ... need dimension (2).
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i have a set of TSX rims.. can the stock wheels work with our gen TL?

i believe they are 215/50/17

or would it be better to use 235/45/17?

the tsx rims are 17x7 with an offset of 55.
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TSX rims will work on a 2nd gen TL.

No worries using 215/50/17 tires since they are the same size as OEM Type-S tires.
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Originally Posted by JackBauerCTU
What about 19x8.5 with offset 45 how would this fit?

Great Info!!!...wish I had it before getting my set-up


I have RonJon Inspires 19X8.5 w/+42 offset and they rub bad (see pic below)...however, the other two issues to consider are tire size, I have 245/35/19, (I have been told 235's won't rub) and amount of drop, I am about a 1/2 finger gap all the way around.



To remedy the situation, I am looking at raising the car to a finger or finger and a half and rolling or shaving the fenders. I take it to the body shop next Monday...we'll see how it all turns out.

Here's how it looks now...I love it!! Except, it rubs way too much...

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random small rim question, 16x7 45 offset on a winter wheel/tire. this is for a TL-S. is this gona have problems?
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Hey guys im new and i just saw this thread. I was wondering if 18 x 7.5 w/ +38 offset would have a problem rubbing? If you could tell me what size tire i should use that would help a lot.
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Hey guys im new and i just saw this thread. I was wondering if 18 x 7.5 w/ +38 offset would have a problem rubbing? If you could tell me what size tire i should use that would help a lot.
Please read the first post on page 1 ...

Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset
Answer: A rim that's 18"x7.5", offset +38 is too low. You need a minimum of +45 for a safe fitment. Some say it can be lower, but +45 is a safe place to start. (Higher offset than +45 ... virtually no chance of rubbing that requires any fender modification.)

Tire choice: 225/40/18 is narrower and less likely to rub than 235/40/18.
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Originally Posted by RidinDurty
Hey guys im new and i just saw this thread. I was wondering if 18 x 7.5 w/ +38 offset would have a problem rubbing? If you could tell me what size tire i should use that would help a lot.
i am rockin' some 18x7.5 +35 (225's) Volks right now...... they rub a little bit on turns (not all the time).... but when i have heavy passengers, yeah i be rubbin' on dem bumps/dips..... but i think thats only cuz i have Tein SS set all the way down.... if u won't be lowered this much i don't think u'll have a problem......
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Originally Posted by derrick
Please read the first post on page 1 ...



Answer: A rim that's 18"x7.5", offset +38 is too low. You need a minimum of +45 for a safe fitment. Some say it can be lower, but +45 is a safe place to start. (Higher offset than +45 ... virtually no chance of rubbing that requires any fender modification.)

Tire choice: 225/40/18 is narrower and less likely to rub than 235/40/18.

u poseted quoted it urself......

Our TL/TLS come with 6.5" rims with +55 offset, made my Enkei. General rule (but not always the case since there is some variation among manufacturers):

7" rim = +42 offset
7.5" rim = +45 offset
8" rim = +48 offset

thats just a general rule for most rims..... but all manufactures are different in the way they make their rims.....


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