What cars are people getting into after their TL?
#281
Intermediate
Yea - a lot of people like to blast GM for some of the cars they've put out in the past (and rightfully so) but they do have a bunch of talented engineers who are often hamstrung by management, beancounters, and lawyers. When the company actually puts some effort into it they can come up with some really good products - like the Suburban, Corvette, and the Volt.
With the prices of pre-owned hybrids nowadays they're a really good deal and while the Volt is not as fast as a TL, it's no slouch, and it'll blow away just about any other hybrid on the road. And it has more plug-in range than any other hybrid.
I couldn't find any other luxury sedan with a strong engine and stickshift like the TL. It's tough to find the stickshift even in Audi or BMW anymore, and Acura doesn't make anything stickshift. Porsche is even moving away from them. You used to be able to get something like a 3.5 V6 Nissan Altima stick, but that's no longer made either.
GM was asking $44K sticker for fully-loaded Volts when they came out (which is now down to about $39K), and remember the 3G TLs stickered for about $35K in their day.
With the prices of pre-owned hybrids nowadays they're a really good deal and while the Volt is not as fast as a TL, it's no slouch, and it'll blow away just about any other hybrid on the road. And it has more plug-in range than any other hybrid.
I couldn't find any other luxury sedan with a strong engine and stickshift like the TL. It's tough to find the stickshift even in Audi or BMW anymore, and Acura doesn't make anything stickshift. Porsche is even moving away from them. You used to be able to get something like a 3.5 V6 Nissan Altima stick, but that's no longer made either.
GM was asking $44K sticker for fully-loaded Volts when they came out (which is now down to about $39K), and remember the 3G TLs stickered for about $35K in their day.
#283
Intermediate
Fair point. However, I'm not certain those more expensive brands have quite the same "green image" or "value" that the Leaf, Volt, and Prius do. Anyone who claims they're saving the planet by buying a BMW 7-series hybrid instead of the regular version is going to get some funny looks.
#285
I've owned my 2007 Type S AT for 6 years now (bought 1 owner CPO). I've wanted to replace it for at least a year now, but I can't easily find something comparable/better... at least not at a decent price.
It has to have either AWD or FWD with a limited slip diff. That rules out most cars out there. And it has as quick/quicker than my TL-S. And no annoying CVT transmissions.
Also, I really want cooled seats. Yeah, I'm getting older but I hate swamp-butt from leather sets in the summer. Very few 4th gen TL's came with Advance trim, which has heated/cooled.
And no SUV's. Sorry... I like something that drives like a sports sedan.
So I keep driving my TL until some magic car that meets my needs arrives....
It has to have either AWD or FWD with a limited slip diff. That rules out most cars out there. And it has as quick/quicker than my TL-S. And no annoying CVT transmissions.
Also, I really want cooled seats. Yeah, I'm getting older but I hate swamp-butt from leather sets in the summer. Very few 4th gen TL's came with Advance trim, which has heated/cooled.
And no SUV's. Sorry... I like something that drives like a sports sedan.
So I keep driving my TL until some magic car that meets my needs arrives....
#287
Race Director
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Look at the Q50s Scotten? S4? IS350? GS-f?
#289
Racer
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I'm leaning in the direction of a sport wagon - anyone have a good suggestion? Several seem great, but after digging in, have issues...
- 2010+ Audi Avant - 2.0L engine has big oil consumption issues...
- 2010+ BMW 3-Series - possibly expensive maintenance?
- 2010+ Cadillac CTS - 3.6L engine averages 20mpg
#290
Drove a Q50 - did not like (and it's a little small).
Had an S4 simultaneous with my TL - got hit and run and car was totalled. Liked it, but it was also small (I need to carry several kids/people).
S4 too small too
GS-F - too much $$$. GS350 - drove it... was boring.
But... thanks for the advice...!
Had an S4 simultaneous with my TL - got hit and run and car was totalled. Liked it, but it was also small (I need to carry several kids/people).
S4 too small too
GS-F - too much $$$. GS350 - drove it... was boring.
But... thanks for the advice...!
#291
Race Director
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Be like me...S5? Mustang?
#292
I sold my 2007 Acura TL Nav last year and bought 2007 Audi A6 V8 4.2. It turned out to be money pit and I decided to sell it. About two months ago I purchases 2013 Hyundai Azera with 49k miles. I bought the car as CPO that comes with 60k miles bumper to bumper and 100k miles powertrain warranty. I know that there are not to many fans of Hyundai here but I also wasn't one until I drove this car. This car has all the goodies that I could dream of:
- heated all four seats
- cooled front seats
- heated steering wheel
- panoramic sunroof
- ambient lights (check out the pictures)
- powerful HID lights
- manual back door window shades and automatic rear window shade
There are many more features but these are the key features that sold me on the car. It is a blast to drive. Interior is spacious and quiet. Soft touch leather is so nice and comfortable. I love the car! Note how big this car is on the last picture. Enjoy:
- heated all four seats
- cooled front seats
- heated steering wheel
- panoramic sunroof
- ambient lights (check out the pictures)
- powerful HID lights
- manual back door window shades and automatic rear window shade
There are many more features but these are the key features that sold me on the car. It is a blast to drive. Interior is spacious and quiet. Soft touch leather is so nice and comfortable. I love the car! Note how big this car is on the last picture. Enjoy:
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#293
It's pretty sad that you can get features on a Kia/Hyundai that you can't find on a comparable German sedan. I drove 2 used Mercedes E classs (E350 and E550) and found the tech and features lacking.
I really liked the Genesis I drove but the 3.8 V6 was a little slow for the weight....
I really liked the Genesis I drove but the 3.8 V6 was a little slow for the weight....
#294
Safety Car
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Not very active on this site anymore, but since I have been on here with my recent post on that low mileage Type S for sale here is my current vehicle.
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude. Love it!
2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude. Love it!
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#295
Race Director
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And it's treated you well? I know tons of people that LOVE their Cherokee's and then are so happy when they get rid of them months later. Lol
#296
Safety Car
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Yes they have been excellent vehicles and I have had a number of Jeeps. I know everyone has different opinions or experiences, but mine have all been VERY good with my Jeeps. On the Grand Cherokee forums early off there was some teething problems with the 8spd tranny in the V6 models, and some electrical gremlins, but that mainly effected early built 2014 models. Things seem to be pretty solid now with the Grand Cherokee.
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#297
Race Director
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Glad to hear that man! Personally I think they are the best looking SUVs by a bunch.
#298
Team Owner
I sold my 2007 Acura TL Nav last year and bought 2007 Audi A6 V8 4.2. It turned out to be money pit and I decided to sell it. About two months ago I purchases 2013 Hyundai Azera with 49k miles. I bought the car as CPO that comes with 60k miles bumper to bumper and 100k miles powertrain warranty. I know that there are not to many fans of Hyundai here but I also wasn't one until I drove this car. This car has all the goodies that I could dream of:
- heated all four seats
- cooled front seats
- heated steering wheel
- panoramic sunroof
- ambient lights (check out the pictures)
- powerful HID lights
- manual back door window shades and automatic rear window shade
There are many more features but these are the key features that sold me on the car. It is a blast to drive. Interior is spacious and quiet. Soft touch leather is so nice and comfortable. I love the car! Note how big this car is on the last picture. Enjoy:
- heated all four seats
- cooled front seats
- heated steering wheel
- panoramic sunroof
- ambient lights (check out the pictures)
- powerful HID lights
- manual back door window shades and automatic rear window shade
There are many more features but these are the key features that sold me on the car. It is a blast to drive. Interior is spacious and quiet. Soft touch leather is so nice and comfortable. I love the car! Note how big this car is on the last picture. Enjoy:
#299
Safety Car
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Thanks, yeah I have always been a fan of the recent Grand Cherokees. They originally had the Altitude edition and I liked the look, but it was only based off the base Laredo model. Jeep listened to its customers and came out with the High Altitude edition which is based off the Overland/Summit and has all the cool features of the higher end trim models.
#300
Race Director
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Srt!
#301
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Haha yeah, those are cool, but serious $$$ still even for used and I don't even have to mention how it does on fuel. Just not the best for a daily commuter. I am very happy with the decent performance of my V6 8spd and 20-21mpg. Not even all that far off what I used to get in my Type S.
#302
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Yea those SRT's are fuel cows...
#303
Jeff
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the guy who does all the body work and paint on my TL just bought the 2016 str8 grand cherokee. The red colour (not sure the exact name), Man does that thing ever have a stunning presence in person. Def ballin
#305
Team Owner
How fast is one those? I know they put down good power, but they aren't exactly light either. Just curious.
#306
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Low 13's I believe.
#307
Safety Car
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Yeah I would say the 2014+ models with the 8spd tranny are low 13 second mayyybe high 12 on a good run trucks. Not so much highway beasts, but where those things are deadly is from a stop. They launch very hard. I'm not 100% sure on this but I think guys pull 0-60 runs in the 4s.
I believe they are releasing a Grand CHerokee SRT Hellcat as well :-O
I believe they are releasing a Grand CHerokee SRT Hellcat as well :-O
#309
Suzuka Master
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Yeah I would say the 2014+ models with the 8spd tranny are low 13 second mayyybe high 12 on a good run trucks. Not so much highway beasts, but where those things are deadly is from a stop. They launch very hard. I'm not 100% sure on this but I think guys pull 0-60 runs in the 4s.
I believe they are releasing a Grand CHerokee SRT Hellcat as well :-O
I believe they are releasing a Grand CHerokee SRT Hellcat as well :-O
#310
Safety Car
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Yeah, a 13 flat AWD car is generally -4.5 seconds to 60. The Golf R with DSG turns similar numbers stock. An APR stage 1 ECU and TCU flash for $1500 drops it down to 12 flat in the quarter and -3.7 to 60. Stage 2 (free flash upgrade from stage 1 after buying their downpipe plus intake) is good for 11.6-11.7. The car is a blast and such a sleeper. Plus it still gets better gas mileage than our TLs. I need one soon.
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#313
Beautiful car and I think it is best color combo you could ever get! ;-)
#314
2015 TLX V6 Tech
I sold my 2007 TL Base to my son and bought a 2015 TLX V6 Tech. I also had a 2000 TL. The TL hits the value proposition that I want, premium sedan at a fair price.
#315
Racer
#316
People always warned me with how horribly unreliable bmws are and how they are so expensive to maintain but 15k km later I've had zero issues....
....just ridiculously expensive oil changes but it comes with the territory i guess.
The tunability, speed, insane handling & the prestige makes it all worth it though.
....just ridiculously expensive oil changes but it comes with the territory i guess.
The tunability, speed, insane handling & the prestige makes it all worth it though.
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#317
Burning Brakes
ended up with a loaded RX350 with 21K miles.. #dadlife #strollerclub
I'm actually enjoying the RX more than i thought i would. Comfy, smooth, roomy, and loaded with options i didn't have on the TL.
I'll rock the RX for a few years, and get into that GS i still yearn for
#318
Racer
Recently added a 2015 GTR to the stable. After 5+ satisfying years with the TL-S, it was time to get something more fun to satisfy an itch for more power and better handling. Originally, it was a lot of back and forth between the M5 and E63S for months but ended up driving a friend's GTR which is what sealed the deal. After thinking about it, we didn't need another sedan and it made better sense because the depreciation hit was taken by the previous owner. The tough part will be moving on from the GTR if it ever happens. The car ruins people and now I understand it first hand. No other cars in the same price range is as fun to drive.
#319
Mr. Detail
I'm currently looking for a 1st gen 6MT G35 coupe in not black for a second car. 215,180 miles on my Accord, want to keep using it for work for the next 3-4 years. It's paid for, still looks and runs good and is relatively inexpensive to maintain. But I want another 6 speed car but prefer to go with RWD.
Why a first gen G35? Newer ones look too feminine to me, plus you can find good first gens for $10k or less. Rather just pay cash for something.
Why a first gen G35? Newer ones look too feminine to me, plus you can find good first gens for $10k or less. Rather just pay cash for something.
#320
Burning Brakes
Recently added a 2015 GTR to the stable. After 5+ satisfying years with the TL-S, it was time to get something more fun to satisfy an itch for more power and better handling. Originally, it was a lot of back and forth between the M5 and E63S for months but ended up driving a friend's GTR which is what sealed the deal. After thinking about it, we didn't need another sedan and it made better sense because the depreciation hit was taken by the previous owner. The tough part will be moving on from the GTR if it ever happens. The car ruins people and now I understand it first hand. No other cars in the same price range is as fun to drive.
Congrats on that