Son selling his TL and buying an M5.
10-09-2013, 09:17 AM
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'04 KBP you say eh?
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10-09-2013, 09:26 AM
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At this point I'm not sure I could go as far back as an e46. The technology has changed so much since then. Go e9x. But that easily adds another $10k+ in price.
I just test drove a 2008 M3 and it was absolutely amazing.
I just test drove a 2008 M3 and it was absolutely amazing.
10-09-2013, 09:27 AM
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That is a 07/08 Type-S color only. 
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10-09-2013, 09:30 AM
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10-09-2013, 09:34 AM
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Has to be the ABP then. My younger son is going to join AZ after transfer, he'll post pics. It has an Aspec body kit on it and has been babied it's whole life.
10-09-2013, 09:34 AM
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your son better have enough cash saved for things that could go wrong.
a member on here, maybe you remember him, ttribe?
he traded in his TL for a M5 with the V10. his company paid for the gas, but, he ultimately sold it, because even tho it was a perfect car, things can go south really quickly.
he decided his family was more important than a car that can potentially cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
he traded the m5 for a genesis sedan.
traded that for a new 335i.
a member on here, maybe you remember him, ttribe?
he traded in his TL for a M5 with the V10. his company paid for the gas, but, he ultimately sold it, because even tho it was a perfect car, things can go south really quickly.
he decided his family was more important than a car that can potentially cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
he traded the m5 for a genesis sedan.
traded that for a new 335i.
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10-09-2013, 09:39 AM
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your son better have enough cash saved for things that could go wrong.
a member on here, maybe you remember him, ttribe?
he traded in his TL for a M5 with the V10. his company paid for the gas, but, he ultimately sold it, because even tho it was a perfect car, things can go south really quickly.
he decided his family was more important than a car that can potentially cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
he traded the m5 for a genesis sedan.
traded that for a new 335i.
a member on here, maybe you remember him, ttribe?
he traded in his TL for a M5 with the V10. his company paid for the gas, but, he ultimately sold it, because even tho it was a perfect car, things can go south really quickly.
he decided his family was more important than a car that can potentially cost 10's of thousands of dollars.
he traded the m5 for a genesis sedan.
traded that for a new 335i.
10-09-2013, 09:40 AM
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Yea there were three major downsides to the M3 and the S5 I test drove that ultimately steered me away from considering that direction.
1) Parts are expensive as hell. I mean just regular things are twice as much as their practically identical 3 series / A5 siblings.
2) Insurance, for me at least, was too much of a hike to justify.
3) Both are beastly NA cars. Which can't be tuned as easily as the newer boosted platforms. And they also don't have good MPG.
It won't be quite as bad with #1 and #2 for a e46 though.
Just talking here. Your son will love it I'm sure. They are amazing cars.
1) Parts are expensive as hell. I mean just regular things are twice as much as their practically identical 3 series / A5 siblings.
2) Insurance, for me at least, was too much of a hike to justify.
3) Both are beastly NA cars. Which can't be tuned as easily as the newer boosted platforms. And they also don't have good MPG.
It won't be quite as bad with #1 and #2 for a e46 though.
Just talking here. Your son will love it I'm sure. They are amazing cars.
10-09-2013, 09:58 AM
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Had 98 E39 and unable keep up with maintenance fee, drove about 100k 7 years. but it's all depend previous owner..my previous owner was jack ass and he drove NYC with dent wheel for over year. that vibration killed my 540i and I found it hard way...but. still it's beast and ultimate drive machine. hands down on bimmer
10-09-2013, 10:22 AM
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The M5 is an absolute beast to drive but maintenance will be a killer, especially if the VANOS system goes out.
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...m5-issues.html
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...m5-issues.html
10-09-2013, 11:41 AM
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I think he can afford it at least for the short term.
That being said, nice choice! I'm keen on picking up a E90 M3 6MT sedan years from now
from what i'm reading the V8 in that is more reliable than the 335i with all its problems (at least in the early models)
That being said, nice choice! I'm keen on picking up a E90 M3 6MT sedan years from now
from what i'm reading the V8 in that is more reliable than the 335i with all its problems (at least in the early models)
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10-09-2013, 11:43 AM
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I didn't mean to be rude or attempt to persuade someone one way or another. Just this topic has been on my mind lately and I thought I would share the conclusions I came to.
10-09-2013, 12:12 PM
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Obviously a complete oversight and mistake on my end. I thought he was talking M3 the entire time. Lol
10-09-2013, 12:17 PM
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I have an 01 e39 530i. For an old car it still enjoyable to drive and still puts a smile on my face. Maintenance and quality are things that are extremely aggrevating. Ive had the car for almost 7 years and repairs are non stop. I fix most things myself, with the e60 it may not be that easy to DIY. The e60 or e39 M5 are dream cars, if you can and are willing to afford it then by all means you wont regret it. For me BMW has left a bad taste in my mouth and more than like would not buy another one.
10-09-2013, 12:29 PM
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I have an 01 e39 530i. For an old car it still enjoyable to drive and still puts a smile on my face. Maintenance and quality are things that are extremely aggrevating. Ive had the car for almost 7 years and repairs are non stop. I fix most things myself, with the e60 it may not be that easy to DIY. The e60 or e39 M5 are dream cars, if you can and are willing to afford it then by all means you wont regret it. For me BMW has left a bad taste in my mouth and more than like would not buy another one.
10-09-2013, 12:37 PM
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At 82K miles the most important thing to replace is the cooling system. Replace the radiator all hoses, water pump (with metal impellar), and themostat. Also stock struts and shocks are probably toast, they may not notice until they are replaced. I rebuilt my engine due to a blown head gasket last year (overheated twice and left me stranded)
10-09-2013, 01:08 PM
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Yea there were three major downsides to the M3 and the S5 I test drove that ultimately steered me away from considering that direction.
1) Parts are expensive as hell. I mean just regular things are twice as much as their practically identical 3 series / A5 siblings.
2) Insurance, for me at least, was too much of a hike to justify.
3) Both are beastly NA cars. Which can't be tuned as easily as the newer boosted platforms. And they also don't have good MPG.
It won't be quite as bad with #1 and #2 for a e46 though.
Just talking here. Your son will love it I'm sure. They are amazing cars.
1) Parts are expensive as hell. I mean just regular things are twice as much as their practically identical 3 series / A5 siblings.
2) Insurance, for me at least, was too much of a hike to justify.
3) Both are beastly NA cars. Which can't be tuned as easily as the newer boosted platforms. And they also don't have good MPG.
It won't be quite as bad with #1 and #2 for a e46 though.
Just talking here. Your son will love it I'm sure. They are amazing cars.
Edit: I see it's already been sorted out, lol. I need to start reading whole threads.
I can only imagine the gas mileage on that V10 though.
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10-09-2013, 01:32 PM
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Yea well at least most of what I said, sans model numbers, still applies. Lol 
Mah bad!
Mah bad!
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10-09-2013, 05:07 PM
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Nice to see a thread about a different car on here and it isn't absolute blind bashing. Most of the negative comments about the BMW have been personal experience and most still say the car is awesome...just a PITA to maintain.
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10-09-2013, 05:18 PM
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The E60 M5 is such a hit or miss car for people. Hopefully, your son's runs problem free & he keeps it in the long run. As others have said, maintenance of these are way up there, but unfortunately, the same can't be said for the value; these have absolutely plummeted.
10-09-2013, 07:34 PM
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Warranty!!!
I would steer clear of an 06, as those have had issues maintenance-wise. Ttribe's M5 was the exception.
The car you're interested in cost $29,000 for a reason. Think about that for a second. . . How does a car that cost $95,000 drop that far down and it hasn't hit 75,000 miles yet?
Plus getting warranty on that age M5 is going to cost the price of a used 1st gen TSX.
If an M5 is what he really wants, I say get a refreshed model, 08-10. Most of the maintenance issues were hammered out. Also, please, please, please check the clutch wear, as that is also a common issue among M5 owners. Most have burned out due to abuse or some other issue. And that's a costly repair.
Plus, adding oil fill-ups as you do gas fill-ups is part of normal care. This car burns oil pretty quickly.
Like others said, it's hit or miss based on how the previous owner drove the car. With 500 horses under the hood, its very tempting to push this car to its limit with no care for reliability at that moment.
All in all, it's a great car and fun to drive. Just have a nice cash account dedicated for her. She can be needy.
I would steer clear of an 06, as those have had issues maintenance-wise. Ttribe's M5 was the exception.
The car you're interested in cost $29,000 for a reason. Think about that for a second. . . How does a car that cost $95,000 drop that far down and it hasn't hit 75,000 miles yet?
Plus getting warranty on that age M5 is going to cost the price of a used 1st gen TSX.
If an M5 is what he really wants, I say get a refreshed model, 08-10. Most of the maintenance issues were hammered out. Also, please, please, please check the clutch wear, as that is also a common issue among M5 owners. Most have burned out due to abuse or some other issue. And that's a costly repair.
Plus, adding oil fill-ups as you do gas fill-ups is part of normal care. This car burns oil pretty quickly.
Like others said, it's hit or miss based on how the previous owner drove the car. With 500 horses under the hood, its very tempting to push this car to its limit with no care for reliability at that moment.
All in all, it's a great car and fun to drive. Just have a nice cash account dedicated for her. She can be needy.
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10-09-2013, 08:04 PM
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The E60 M5 is such a hit or miss car for people. Hopefully, your son's runs problem free & he keeps it in the long run. As others have said, maintenance of these are way up there, but unfortunately, the same can't be said for the value; these have absolutely plummeted.
10-09-2013, 08:08 PM
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Warranty!!!
I would steer clear of an 06, as those have had issues maintenance-wise. Ttribe's M5 was the exception.
The car you're interested in cost $29,000 for a reason. Think about that for a second. . . How does a car that cost $95,000 drop that far down and it hasn't hit 75,000 miles yet?
Plus getting warranty on that age M5 is going to cost the price of a used 1st gen TSX.
If an M5 is what he really wants, I say get a refreshed model, 08-10. Most of the maintenance issues were hammered out. Also, please, please, please check the clutch wear, as that is also a common issue among M5 owners. Most have burned out due to abuse or some other issue. And that's a costly repair.
Plus, adding oil fill-ups as you do gas fill-ups is part of normal care. This car burns oil pretty quickly.
Like others said, it's hit or miss based on how the previous owner drove the car. With 500 horses under the hood, its very tempting to push this car to its limit with no care for reliability at that moment.
All in all, it's a great car and fun to drive. Just have a nice cash account dedicated for her. She can be needy.
I would steer clear of an 06, as those have had issues maintenance-wise. Ttribe's M5 was the exception.
The car you're interested in cost $29,000 for a reason. Think about that for a second. . . How does a car that cost $95,000 drop that far down and it hasn't hit 75,000 miles yet?
Plus getting warranty on that age M5 is going to cost the price of a used 1st gen TSX.
If an M5 is what he really wants, I say get a refreshed model, 08-10. Most of the maintenance issues were hammered out. Also, please, please, please check the clutch wear, as that is also a common issue among M5 owners. Most have burned out due to abuse or some other issue. And that's a costly repair.
Plus, adding oil fill-ups as you do gas fill-ups is part of normal care. This car burns oil pretty quickly.
Like others said, it's hit or miss based on how the previous owner drove the car. With 500 horses under the hood, its very tempting to push this car to its limit with no care for reliability at that moment.
All in all, it's a great car and fun to drive. Just have a nice cash account dedicated for her. She can be needy.
10-09-2013, 08:26 PM
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Best of luck with the new ride.
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10-09-2013, 08:50 PM
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My son has researched the car and knows it can be expensive to maintain and drive. He bought the car in Houston today and took it to the local BMW dealer there to have it inspected, paid 2 hours of labor at $110 per to have it looked at. The checked it out as good so he bought it. Driving it home as I type. This will not be a daily driver...he has 2 other vehicles for that.
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Wow. Are you guys serious about all of this? I've always knows that German vehicles aren't known for their longevity, but this is ridiculous. I used to give Honda crap about their 1 in 20 failed automatic trannies. This puts all of that in perspective.
10-10-2013, 04:16 AM
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