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Old 08-10-2007, 08:12 AM
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I don't think any Acura I have ever owned has had one. They have an RPM rev limiter and that's about it. I love it when I would run with a GM and at 110mph they would shut down. Shit was to funny.



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I finally got to do it after my first attempt that got interrrupted by a highway patrol. I had nearly 20 miles of straight downhill freeway in front of me with nearly no traffic. Tires were at 40psi and Z-rated so I went for it. Didn't take that long to peg the speedo since this was a pretty good grade. I hit just a hair north of 160mph with it still barely climbing and backed out of it. Previous best on flat land was ~152mph. This is indicated and I'm sure the speedo is off by a few mph at that speed, especailly with my .10" smaller diameter tires. Regardless of actual speed, the computer saw over 160 and didn't cut power.
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As TLFourplay said and proved, top speed of an 07 TL-S with 6MT is limited at 150 mph.

However as I hate cars and I said, 05 TL 6MT and 06 TL (with whatever his transmission is) is NOT limited at 150 mph. Maybe the they are limited at higher speed or don't have a limiter at all.

In short, we're talking about 3 different cars. Maybe Honda/Acura changed the ECU for 07 and up?

Hell, I went 150 mph (indicated) on my 00 Accord V6 while going downhill. I didn't hit the speed limiter either.
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Originally Posted by 3rdGenHybrid
bro...your going off the fact that your car did 160 on a downgrade....i could drop your car off a cliff and make it do 200.....the car will cut fuel or spark(which ever one honda uses..) before 160....but since gravity is pulling your car down hill...and u have all that momentum pushing up behind you....with a big enough downgrade....you could probably hit 180....we're talking flat land...
Sorry to wreck your off a cliff idea but I am pretty sure that even if you drove off a cliff you would only go about 180mph, I think would be about the maximum velocity especially with the drag of the car in the air. To go that fast you really need something to continue to impart force on the car to make it continue to speed up. I am only remarking on your comment because I found it to be LOL funny for some reason...anyways you are right. top speed a flat ground only. But I do like hearing stories about 160 on a downhill... way to go...and live to tell about it without killing anyone!
Old 08-10-2007, 01:23 PM
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Since most of us drive on American streets and highways with our TLs, none of this is relevant. It's interesting, though.
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what's the point of this except getting you in a trouble? if highway patrol catches you doing this, oh......man.....it will be ugly. you'll get a huge fine plus your car gets impounded....and you'll go to jail eventually. so.........pretty please stop fuckin' encouraging people with this macho shit. and fuck you who ever started this useless thread
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Pizza4Everyone, chill. It might be pointless to you but there's no need to use those F words.

As with every thread, if you don't like it, just skip it and let it die. Your choice.
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Originally Posted by 260 HP
Pizza4Everyone, chill. It might be pointless to you but there's no need to use those F words.

As with every thread, if you don't like it, just skip it and let it die. Your choice.
k.....it's for other people's sakes you know. it made me angry
Old 08-10-2007, 03:20 PM
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ok.. so some of you have asked the question why Honda//Acura would put a limiter on a 07 TL-S instead of a 04-06 TL.. then i ask u this.. IF they did put the limiter on the 04-06, why not on the 2nd gen TL?? i remember reading while back that the 2nd gen TL did not have a limiter, and people have hit high speeds with the 2nd gen....
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Originally Posted by Pizza4Everyone
what's the point of this except getting you in a trouble? if highway patrol catches you doing this, oh......man.....it will be ugly. you'll get a huge fine plus your car gets impounded....and you'll go to jail eventually. so.........pretty please stop fuckin' encouraging people with this macho shit. and fuck you who ever started this useless thread
Don't make this personal. I would love to hear you say "fuck you" to my face tough guy. Better have good dental insurance...
Old 08-10-2007, 04:31 PM
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jeez, i need to go 156 MPH in my TL... ive only gotten it to 126
Old 08-10-2007, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TLFourplay
Dude I am done with this thread. People like you really get to me. I can kinda see that maybe you are just trying to explain it to me but you also have to watch the vids I have made. I drove the autobahn all the time for 7 months and almost every time hit the limiter. I dont need a petty lecture that maybe its the wind. I had a 00 ford focus, limited to 108mph, had a 94 sentra limited to 120mph adn a 95 GMC Sonoma limited to 95mph. All feel the exact same when they hit their limited speeds.




I appreciate that bro. I mean I honestly dont think its too hard to notice the speed limiter kicking in on my vids. Although its not the rev limiter, its the top speed limiter because in 6th gear I am running 5200 rpm's. I think thats what you meant. I dont want the hate cars dude to misconstrue it though.


In closing all I have to say is that 07 TL-S is speed limited to 150mph. Also car and driver has always posted that the TL is limited to 152mph.
Regardless of rims I have on, going uphill or downhill with or against the wind my gauge has NEVER went beyond 150mph.
I could care less what your car does. Mine doesn't have a governor, at least not below 160mph. That was my point. I would like to find out why for my own curiosity.

Your video is hard to see. You hit the revlimiter, that was obvious. Shifted gears and I didn't see the needle climb hard and then stop, it just hovered there. You were in the car and I wasn't so I take your word for it that it hit a limiter. The only reasoning I can see is the TL-S has the power to obtain a higher top speed and requires a limiter.

What is the speed rating of the stock tires on the S?
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From Car & Driver on the 2004 Acura... Now, I am not sure this is accurate... but it says governor limited....

If someone has the the shop manual... they can look it up...

My bet is there is a governor no matter what someone said they were doing going downhill... speedos are very bad at high speed... you might have only been doing 145... would it care??? I don't know.. but I don't believe they would remove something without a model year change..



C/D TEST RESULTS

ACCELERATION (Seconds)
Zero to 30 mph 2.2
40 mph 3.3
50 mph 4.4
60 mph 5.7
70 mph 7.6
80 mph 9.4
90 mph 11.9
100 mph 14.6
110 mph 17.8
120 mph 21.8
130 mph 28.6
Street start, 5-60 mph 6.3
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph 10.4
50-70 mph 10.3
Standing 1/4-mile 14.4 sec @ 99 mph
Top speed (governor limited) 152 mph
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I know this is old but maybe someone can clarify. I had an '05 auto TL that I hit well over 140mph in but not past 150mph....I think my new '08 Type-S hit the governor at 130mph. Is this true, did I hit a gust of wind and/or can I get the governor removed? Not that I go that fast that often but it is nice to pull away quickly as most american cars hit it at 120mph.
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^ thread revival ftl.. yes the TL-S is governed..
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Originally Posted by Majofo
^ thread revival ftl.. yes the TL-S is governed..

It's pretty retarded when my 05 base TL could top our higher than an 08 Type-S. You can get that removed right? I'm sure you're hitting 130 in the GT-R like in 3rd gear ...or you wish you did! hahaha, posted that then read "wished he owned"
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I believe there were members who bypassed the governor.. It's here somewhere.
Old 12-01-2009, 07:21 PM
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I finally got to do it after my first attempt that got interrrupted by a highway patrol. I had nearly 20 miles of straight downhill freeway in front of me with nearly no traffic.
I just love how people make threads saying that their car does not have a govenor on it.....lol Acura does govern the TL to a certain speed and one of the reasons they do it has to do with the fact that once you get above a certain speed the car becomes areodynamically unstable and has a tendancy to want to become airborne. (straight from C&D when they talked to the guys who did the original TL/CL type S cars)

ya know my yamaha vino 125 is governed to a max of 62mph limiter however I have hit faster speeds going down hill becuase even though the engine is governed, it still gets assistance from gravity and that plus the engine will cause the biike will go faster - up to 68mph......


saying that your car has no govenor beucase you are going down hill = u didn't think this one through.......
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I know this is a revival, but at the downhill makes you go a lot faster comment.
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Hit 154 in my 06 tl and its automatic. no upgrades...hell the car heavier from the 100 pounds of speaker equipment in the trunk
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cool story bro
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cool story brah
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Originally Posted by the_tl_man09
Hit 154 in my 06 tl and its automatic. no upgrades...hell the car heavier from the 100 pounds of speaker equipment in the trunk
that's awesome as it's governed at 150 or 155. It's been so long since I read the top speed I forgot. how did you determine top speed? GPS? The speedo in the TL is NOWHERE near accurate when you max out the car...

subinf I know this is a revival, but at the downhill makes you go a lot faster comment.
yeah because gravity has NO effect on acceleration.... lol
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Im wondering how we know its governed at 150 or 155 when the speedo isnt accurate? Im not being sarcastic, its a genuine question.
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its usually governed by limiting the rpm in the transmission I think. The 04-06 TL's can reach excess of 150mph no problem, however 07-08 automatics(including type S) cut off around 135(some say 132) due to the different transmission.

I know the TL speedo isnt that accurate at 150mph but I have had a GPS up to about 100 and the tl speedo was pretty spot on. I do notice that with stock sized tires(235/45/17) the speedo always reads slightly higher(2-3mph) but with my 245/40/18 tires, it's close to perfect since it's got a marginally bigger overall diameter. I could make a video if it if you guys dont believe me

I've never tried using the GPS after 100mph as I rarely go that fast
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
First attempt last month I flew by a highway patrol approaching 140mph in the same spot. He must've been sleeping...

"if you can do better than 180k they can't catch you; they dont even try" ...
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
that's awesome as it's governed at 150 or 155. It's been so long since I read the top speed I forgot. how did you determine top speed? GPS? The speedo in the TL is NOWHERE near accurate when you max out the car...



yeah because gravity has NO effect on acceleration.... lol

hmmmm i went off the speedomemeter so if it isnt accurate then my speed wasn't accurate all i know if it felt like the car was fixing to start flying so i backed off
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I'm a speed lover! My TL maxed out at 140 about 2 yrs ago...i'm sure the gravity had something to do with it lol. Now that i have 2 kids i hate going past 80 mph now .
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Paperboy,

I'll confirm your statement. My 08 Type S (Auto) dies at 138 (indicated, stock rims and tires), which reasonably speaking is 135 + or - the gauge accuracy.

I've driven GM's (corvettes/camaros) which are limited to 155, they have a "hard" stop. They have the balls to go faster, but it's like hitting a wall and you instantly start losing speed or "bouncing" off the limit.

The TL is a "soft" stop, it just stops going faster. Car doesn't feel like it's having a real issue accelerating, RPM's aren't maxed, it just stops going faster right around 135.
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Originally Posted by tones160
I'm a speed lover! My TL maxed out at 140 about 2 yrs ago...i'm sure the gravity had something to do with it lol. Now that i have 2 kids i hate going past 80 mph now .
Wow, you love driving dangerously and now you're popping out kids at the rate of 1 per year. Just what society needs!!!

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Hey i was young and stupid just wasting money left and right but as far as for my kids I'm very happy to have them. One going almost to 2yrs old in June and the other turning 4 months soon. It's just crazy how life can suddenly change your life

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Wow, you love driving dangerously and now you're popping out kids at the rate of 1 per year. Just what society needs!!!

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Originally Posted by tones160
..It's just crazy how life can suddenly change your life..
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that's hilarious! Meant to say it's crazy how sudden your life can change in a short period of time

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My friend claimed to be at 160 when going against hi friends g35 ... 04 6spd m/t no mods...
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Originally Posted by Ray.Collins
Paperboy,

I'll confirm your statement. My 08 Type S (Auto) dies at 138 (indicated, stock rims and tires), which reasonably speaking is 135 + or - the gauge accuracy.

I've driven GM's (corvettes/camaros) which are limited to 155, they have a "hard" stop. They have the balls to go faster, but it's like hitting a wall and you instantly start losing speed or "bouncing" off the limit.

The TL is a "soft" stop, it just stops going faster. Car doesn't feel like it's having a real issue accelerating, RPM's aren't maxed, it just stops going faster right around 135.
That is because our dbw system slowly shuts the TB plate as you reach about 125 mph until it's just open enough to stay the desired limit. A tune would solve this.
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Last week .. 1 killed .. 2 in critical life threatening condition in ICU .. Isolated road ... doing the same thing ..

Keep it on the track in controlled conditions.
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Originally Posted by Ray.Collins

The TL is a "soft" stop, it just stops going faster. Car doesn't feel like it's having a real issue accelerating, RPM's aren't maxed, it just stops going faster right around 135.
My '02 4AT Maxima was the same way. At 130 mph it just stopped accelerating and stayed there. My guess is the throttle body closes enough to keep the car from going faster.
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Originally Posted by TL Luver
My friend claimed to be at 160 when going against hi friends g35 ... 04 6spd m/t no mods...
Cool story bro
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Just did 195 while doing a handstand through the moonroof ... didn't hear any rattles.


True story; no video.
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the comment about no rattles gave it away.
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Originally Posted by Rocketsfan
Just did 195 while doing a handstand through the moonroof ... didn't hear any rattles.


True story; no video.
lol


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