3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

G-029: DIY Independent Fog Lights WITH Stock Switch

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-20-2010, 12:13 AM
  #41  
10th Gear
 
B's 04 TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice DIY! Gonna try this mod soon.
Old 04-20-2010, 12:49 AM
  #42  
Being an Acha Bacha in
iTrader: (2)
 
Elegant TYPE S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Long Island, NY
Age: 44
Posts: 3,222
Received 127 Likes on 88 Posts
Awesome! One question... does the indicator on the dash light up to tell us the fogs are on or off? Or does it stay lit up?
Old 04-20-2010, 04:49 AM
  #43  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
No the indicator is controlled through the module that we bypassed so it does not function.
Old 04-20-2010, 11:54 AM
  #44  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Well I accidentally snipped two red/blue wires on the harness and i thought for sure I soldered the right one back to the other lol maybe not, mine doesn't work. But I'm out of time for today so this project is gonna get post poned until tomorrow!
Old 04-20-2010, 12:09 PM
  #45  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
If I connect the end of the in line fuse that goes to the green wire to the hot terminal on the battery, will the fog lights turn on?
Old 04-20-2010, 04:42 PM
  #46  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Yes it would thats actually where it goes in the first place strait to the battery, take a pic for me of the back of the relay and the wires you cut
Old 04-20-2010, 04:56 PM
  #47  
Coal
 
05TLdcc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Freaking everywhere
Age: 31
Posts: 7,363
Received 137 Likes on 91 Posts
bookmarking......now! sweet write up! seems pretty simple to do!
Old 04-21-2010, 09:30 AM
  #48  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Alright Rog, I'm gonna retrace my work when I get home this evening from work and see what I did wrong.
Old 04-21-2010, 06:00 PM
  #49  
Instructor
 
thevnct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 36
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hey, i did exactly the same as what u did, but now my foglights doesnt even turn on. i dont know what i did wrong. on the wiper green wire, is it the solid green, green with a brown wire wrap around it, or is it the green and white wire? cause that is the only thing i can see i might did wrong. lmk asap thanks. i have a 2005 AT TL.
Old 04-21-2010, 06:11 PM
  #50  
Racer
iTrader: (2)
 
pinina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tampa, FL.
Age: 54
Posts: 395
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
I only saw 1 green wire in the wire loom right behind the brake filler res.
The only part I did wrong was taking the casing off of the steering column.
I guess I broke the clips some how because now there is a gap where the top and bottom come together.
There are also some little pieces of black plastic on my floor board.
That sucked but the lights are working!!!!
Thanks Roger555
Old 04-21-2010, 06:17 PM
  #51  
Drifting
iTrader: (10)
 
bzyrice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 45
Posts: 2,221
Received 21 Likes on 17 Posts
Originally Posted by pinina
I only saw 1 green wire in the wire loom right behind the brake filler res.
The only part I did wrong was taking the casing off of the steering column.
I guess I broke the clips some how because now there is a gap where the top and bottom come together.
There are also some little pieces of black plastic on my floor board.
That sucked but the lights are working!!!!
Thanks Roger555
I have those column covers if you want them. Ill do 25.00 shipped if you are interested. PM me.
Old 04-21-2010, 06:33 PM
  #52  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by thevnct
hey, i did exactly the same as what u did, but now my foglights doesnt even turn on. i dont know what i did wrong. on the wiper green wire, is it the solid green, green with a brown wire wrap around it, or is it the green and white wire? cause that is the only thing i can see i might did wrong. lmk asap thanks. i have a 2005 AT TL.
Pretty sure there is only one green wire, are you taped into the correct harness?
Old 04-21-2010, 06:43 PM
  #53  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
There is only one green wire. It has another small brown wire wrapped around it. I'm looking at it now, fixing to retrace all mi work :p
Old 04-21-2010, 07:12 PM
  #54  
Racer
iTrader: (2)
 
pinina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tampa, FL.
Age: 54
Posts: 395
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by bzyrice
I have those column covers if you want them. Ill do 25.00 shipped if you are interested. PM me.
I just pm'ed u
Old 04-21-2010, 09:38 PM
  #55  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Well I've screwed up majorly, somehow I have shorted wires out and now my parking lights stay on and my headlights do not work at all.. I've put everything as far as modding the fog light switch back to stock, and still nothing. I've checked all fuses and no blown fuses and even reset the ECU. HELP!
Old 04-21-2010, 11:07 PM
  #56  
Instructor
 
thevnct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 36
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Roger555
Pretty sure there is only one green wire, are you taped into the correct harness?
yes, i'm sure i taped it into the correct harness, when i unplugged it my headlights didn't work at all until i plugged it back on.

Originally Posted by Smokd05
Well I've screwed up majorly, somehow I have shorted wires out and now my parking lights stay on and my headlights do not work at all.. I've put everything as far as modding the fog light switch back to stock, and still nothing. I've checked all fuses and no blown fuses and even reset the ECU. HELP!
hey, the only thing i can think of for your headlights not working is if you remember to plug the harness back on, on your steering wheel. assuming that all your wires are right.

Originally Posted by pinina
I only saw 1 green wire in the wire loom right behind the brake filler res.
The only part I did wrong was taking the casing off of the steering column.
I guess I broke the clips some how because now there is a gap where the top and bottom come together.
There are also some little pieces of black plastic on my floor board.
That sucked but the lights are working!!!!
Thanks Roger555
yeah.. that happen to me too! i'm thinking about getting the carbon fiber steering column, but i just put everything back to stock. i don't think i may be trying to attempt this again. lesson learn. good luck for the others who tries to get this done.
Old 04-21-2010, 11:14 PM
  #57  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Yep it's plugged back in, with the blue/white wire reconnected to the plug
Old 04-22-2010, 12:55 AM
  #58  
Drifting
iTrader: (13)
 
dwb993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Shrewsbury, PA
Age: 59
Posts: 2,957
Received 209 Likes on 170 Posts
There are 2 fuse boxes to check---one in the driver's side footwell and the other underhood. I believe you are looking in the underhood for the headlight fuse, but there may be another. I only have the manual for an 06 and I presume you are an 05, given your screen name. But the diagrams and info presented here are for 06 only. They may apply to you, but some of the wire colors may have changed between years. Made for a real bitch when I was installing my door sills.
OP made a disclaimer. Everyone should use a tester/multimeter to confirm their wiring before completing this mod--especially if they do not own an 06. Caveat Emptor!
Old 04-22-2010, 10:31 PM
  #59  
ScoobyZINE
iTrader: (7)
 
AMUA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ocoee, TN
Posts: 3,986
Received 41 Likes on 38 Posts
Yes he did and idiot me I didn't check anything lol Now I've blown my relay control module in the under hood fuse box which controls all of my lights, and since the relay is built into the fuse box itself, it's a ~$250 part
Old 04-23-2010, 04:58 AM
  #60  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
really sorry about this man I think I saw someone parting out a TL you should try to get a used one if you can. Are you sure you didn't blow a fuse somewhere?
Old 04-23-2010, 03:33 PM
  #61  
Advanced
 
Amewz_Ack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Age: 38
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
wow.. that sucks.. i wanted to but im glad i didnt try this
Old 04-24-2010, 09:24 PM
  #62  
10th Gear
 
B's 04 TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Smokd05
Well I've screwed up majorly, somehow I have shorted wires out and now my parking lights stay on and my headlights do not work at all.. I've put everything as far as modding the fog light switch back to stock, and still nothing. I've checked all fuses and no blown fuses and even reset the ECU. HELP!

This happened to me when I forgot to reconnect the harness in step 2.
Old 04-24-2010, 09:59 PM
  #63  
10th Gear
 
B's 04 TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I stopped at Step 5:
"Now at this point you have bypassed the control unit and now have complete control of your fog lights, BUT you would need to remember to turn them off because they would stay on even with the car off. So we need to give this relay a different switched power source."

Cuz on Step 6, there is more than 1 green wire...2 solid green, green w/white stripe & a green w/yellow stripe. I test all the green wires with a multimeter and the green w/yellow stripe had the 12v with the ignition turned on. I have a 2004 TL.
Old 04-24-2010, 10:08 PM
  #64  
Senior Moderator
 
csmeance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Space Coast, FL
Posts: 20,831
Received 1,988 Likes on 1,412 Posts
added to the 3G garage! G-029!
Old 04-24-2010, 11:49 PM
  #65  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by B's 04 TL
I stopped at Step 5:
"Now at this point you have bypassed the control unit and now have complete control of your fog lights, BUT you would need to remember to turn them off because they would stay on even with the car off. So we need to give this relay a different switched power source."

Cuz on Step 6, there is more than 1 green wire...2 solid green, green w/white stripe & a green w/yellow stripe. I test all the green wires with a multimeter and the green w/yellow stripe had the 12v with the ignition turned on. I have a 2004 TL.
Good to know this should help others with a 2004 all your looking for is a 12v switched power source your not drawing power from this line to run your fogs you can use power from your turn signals etc. The only reason I used the green wiper wire is because that is what everyone used when they installed the DRL module so I knew it was there. However by hooking this particular wire up to the "wrong" green wire I really don't see any way this could do any damage it would simply not work.
Old 04-25-2010, 08:02 AM
  #66  
10th Gear
 
B's 04 TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by B's 04 TL
I stopped at Step 5:
"Now at this point you have bypassed the control unit and now have complete control of your fog lights, BUT you would need to remember to turn them off because they would stay on even with the car off. So we need to give this relay a different switched power source."

Cuz on Step 6, there is more than 1 green wire...2 solid green, green w/white stripe & a green w/yellow stripe. I test all the green wires with a multimeter and the green w/yellow stripe had the 12v with the ignition turned on. I have a 2004 TL.
Originally Posted by Roger555
Good to know this should help others with a 2004 all your looking for is a 12v switched power source your not drawing power from this line to run your fogs you can use power from your turn signals etc. The only reason I used the green wiper wire is because that is what everyone used when they installed the DRL module so I knew it was there. However by hooking this particular wire up to the "wrong" green wire I really don't see any way this could do any damage it would simply not work.
Doing a search, I found that in the DIY of the installation of the DRL, the green wire was tapped in a different location close to where you tapped in.
G-067: DIY: DIY installation of Daytime running lights***with detailed pictures***
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136827

His car was a 04 like mine...so I guess it's different on a 06? Anyways, I checked the circuit diagram in the manual and the green w/yellow stripe wire is for the washer motor going to a 7.5a fuse (under-dash fuse box). The thick green wire is for the wiper motor going to a 30a fuse (under-dash fuse box). I will be tapping into this green wire.

Last edited by B's 04 TL; 04-25-2010 at 08:05 AM. Reason: fonts
Old 04-28-2010, 06:45 AM
  #67  
Veni, vidi, vici
 
Bayam0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: boston
Posts: 1,510
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
YES!!, I grew some balls and actually did my first electrical mod! took me 1 hour yesturday. I would have done it the day before, but the reality of me cutting wires and f*ing up my electrical was getting to me. But then, my wife told me to stop being a bitch and just do it! the worst that would of happened is just replacing a couple of wires and having an expert do it.

but I did it, and ROGER's THE BEST!

although it was a bitch to take off the steering wheel cover, and the black box in the engine part, and finding that hole in the middle of the car was a bitch, and I burnt my self like 10 times, it was worth it! if I could do it again, it would be a snap when u know what your doing.
The following users liked this post:
casty (06-01-2012)
Old 04-28-2010, 07:35 AM
  #68  
Advanced
 
Amewz_Ack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Age: 38
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
go bayamon! any pics?
Old 04-28-2010, 10:12 AM
  #69  
Veni, vidi, vici
 
Bayam0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: boston
Posts: 1,510
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Amewz_Ack
go bayamon! any pics?
No pic's, it was raining out so I didn't want bad quality pics, and my camara messing up. but this mod is pretty easy when you finally figure out what your doing. I'ma switch out my fogs and put in some Nokya artic white bulbs today, I'll take some pics.
Old 04-28-2010, 10:52 AM
  #70  
Instructor
 
dadon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York, NY
Age: 38
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
NICE, will be doing this tonight woooohooo

Old 04-28-2010, 08:31 PM
  #71  
Racer
iTrader: (2)
 
pinina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tampa, FL.
Age: 54
Posts: 395
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
its not really that hard. if you are not sure about a step, just ask questions like i did and someone here will help you thru.
Old 04-29-2010, 12:58 AM
  #72  
10th Gear
 
B's 04 TL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mine works great...thanks Roger555!
Old 04-29-2010, 05:08 AM
  #73  
6th Gear
iTrader: (2)
 
onenonlyquan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
great write-up! interested in this working for accord fogs!
Old 04-29-2010, 02:01 PM
  #74  
1st Gear
 
ViMO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Age: 38
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Awesome write up! Will it shut off when you turn on the head lights on normal beam? You said it will stay on for High beam...just curious. I think with normal driving at night i would just like the main lights to be on, but your way would make it an awesome day time running lights!
The following users liked this post:
Pabhomie (05-07-2014)
Old 04-29-2010, 03:19 PM
  #75  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by ViMO
Awesome write up! Will it shut off when you turn on the head lights on normal beam? You said it will stay on for High beam...just curious. I think with normal driving at night i would just like the main lights to be on, but your way would make it an awesome day time running lights!
You will be able to have the fogs on/off whenever you want with the switch as long as you have the keys in the ignition.
Old 05-07-2010, 10:08 PM
  #76  
Instructor
 
dadon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York, NY
Age: 38
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
PLEASE HELP

FIRST MOD AND COMPLETE FAIL!!














FOG LIGHTS WONT TURN ON!!!!

THE PLUG IS IN.

when i put a mulimeter im getting a readon of 1.80v
Old 05-08-2010, 07:17 AM
  #77  
Instructor
 
dadon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York, NY
Age: 38
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
BUMP!

this morning driving to work if I turn on the fog lights "VSA" pops up on dash

holy crap someone pleeeeease help.
Old 05-08-2010, 08:29 AM
  #78  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by dadon
BUMP!

this morning driving to work if I turn on the fog lights "VSA" pops up on dash

holy crap someone pleeeeease help.
Hey man very sorry your having issues. I am looking through you pics and it seems like you have the correct wires tapped but I really have no idea if they are connected correctly according to the diagram. What year do you have? Where exactly do you get this reading of 1.8?
Old 05-08-2010, 08:56 AM
  #79  
Instructor
 
dadon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York, NY
Age: 38
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I have 2006 TL/navi AT5 speed

with the fog light switch on when i put multimeter on the blue/white i get that low voltage reading.
Old 05-08-2010, 09:53 AM
  #80  
OCD
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Roger555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 40
Posts: 1,427
Received 126 Likes on 43 Posts
Originally Posted by dadon
I have 2006 TL/navi AT5 speed

with the fog light switch on when i put multimeter on the blue/white i get that low voltage reading.
Remember the blue/white wire is a ground wire. Are you hooking up the blue/white wire to the (+) of the voltmeter then the (-) to the frame? If so thats why you are getting 1.8v technically its not supposed to register anything. Test for power at the green wire placing the (+) on the volt meter and the (-) to the frame with the keys in the ignition turned to the accessory position to see if your are getting 12V from this line. Also check your fuse box to see if you accidentally blew any fuses I have no idea why your VSA would be affected.


Quick Reply: G-029: DIY Independent Fog Lights WITH Stock Switch



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:33 AM.