Finally a solution to fix those ripped LCA bushings
10-13-2014, 09:37 PM
#1
Finally a solution to fix those ripped LCA bushings
The lower control arm compliance bushings on later model Honda and Acura cars are notorious for failing prematurely. This is especially the case for cars with V6 power-trains. The added weight and torque output of the engine wreaks havoc on these bushings, wearing them out in 60,000 miles or less. Very uncharacteristic for a product that is lauded for it's reliability.
Fastline Performance has teamed up with top-level design and production studio Pro-Car Innovations to release a permanent solution to the ever-problematic compliance bushing. Until now, all that could be done to remedy the issue was to replace with new OEM parts. Now, PCI's highly engineered spherical bearing mount has been adapted for use on the popular late-model Acura vehicles that Heeltoe specializes in.
Included with this kit are a pair of spherical bearing compliance bushings and trailing lower control arm bushings. The bearing housings are cnc machined from 6061 aluminum, and anodized. The spacers are cnc machined from 4130 steel, and zinc plated. PCI warranties the product for up to 2 years from manufacturer defects.
Overall benefits:
Reduced torque steer
Better power delivery to the ground
Improved high-speed stability
DURABILITY
Reduce wheel hop
Fastline Performance Compliance Bearings by PCI, 2004-08 Acura TL and TL-S - EndLess RPM
Fastline Performance has teamed up with top-level design and production studio Pro-Car Innovations to release a permanent solution to the ever-problematic compliance bushing. Until now, all that could be done to remedy the issue was to replace with new OEM parts. Now, PCI's highly engineered spherical bearing mount has been adapted for use on the popular late-model Acura vehicles that Heeltoe specializes in.
Included with this kit are a pair of spherical bearing compliance bushings and trailing lower control arm bushings. The bearing housings are cnc machined from 6061 aluminum, and anodized. The spacers are cnc machined from 4130 steel, and zinc plated. PCI warranties the product for up to 2 years from manufacturer defects.
Overall benefits:
Reduced torque steer
Better power delivery to the ground
Improved high-speed stability
DURABILITY
Reduce wheel hop
Fastline Performance Compliance Bearings by PCI, 2004-08 Acura TL and TL-S - EndLess RPM
10-13-2014, 10:02 PM
#3
Race Director
10-14-2014, 01:46 AM
#5
OPs, title was wrong. "Meant to say now available at www.EndLessRPM.com".
I am proud to say that EndLessRPM now has heel toe products on the website.
I really don't know how people work on computers all day, the website is killing me getting it loaded with products and such that I need to take breaks before my eyes start shattering lol.
I am proud to say that EndLessRPM now has heel toe products on the website.
I really don't know how people work on computers all day, the website is killing me getting it loaded with products and such that I need to take breaks before my eyes start shattering lol.
10-14-2014, 05:52 AM
#6
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10-14-2014, 05:36 PM
#8
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
$300.. 
10-14-2014, 10:59 PM
#10
Team Owner
I wish I didn't just buy brand new compliance bushings from Acura. D'oh.
10-15-2014, 10:56 AM
#11
Instructor
Saw this product a while ago on the passwordjdm website. Looks very promising, but I can't justify spending $300 on them. I mean hell, skunk2 charges $300 for their camber kits and that's 2 entire uca's with ball joints mounted on them. How does a couple of spherical bearings cost more than 2 entire control arms? Anyways, both of mine are blown right now and have been for about 3-5k miles. 74,xxx on my odo. Does anyone else smell a group buy cooking??? Otherwise I'll keep saving up for them. NEED to replace mine, but it's gonna hurt my pocket.
10-15-2014, 11:18 AM
#12
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
Not sure I'd go solid for street. This is track only IMHO.
10-15-2014, 11:40 AM
#13
Race Director
From the link I posted eariler:
Initial review:
MacKenzie001 initial review
6200 mile follow up:
MacKenzie001 follow up review
You could also PM Mackenzie001 and see if he'll post another update here.
I'd be in for a group buy for less than $300...
Initial review:
MacKenzie001 initial review
6200 mile follow up:
MacKenzie001 follow up review
You could also PM Mackenzie001 and see if he'll post another update here.
I'd be in for a group buy for less than $300...
10-15-2014, 12:05 PM
#14
Burning Brakes
This has been out for a long time, just do a search and you'll find it from 2 or 3 years ago. There is more vibration using this LCA bushing because there is no rubber to dampen the suspension, plus it might not stand up to salt damage in the north.
10-15-2014, 01:21 PM
#15
Race Director
iTrader: (1)
Think it does well with the salt...but the vibrations are way too much to me.
At least that's what I remember from doing this to hatches.
At least that's what I remember from doing this to hatches.
10-16-2014, 04:26 AM
#17
yes, its all three.
From my understanding everyone loves them from better handling to better launching/control..
Our cars are known for wheel hop and this helps with that, which is enough convincing for me to buy them since wheel hop is what kills axels and power..
One downside is on bad roads you feel it a little more, but the trade off for the good outweighs the bad.
From my understanding everyone loves them from better handling to better launching/control..
Our cars are known for wheel hop and this helps with that, which is enough convincing for me to buy them since wheel hop is what kills axels and power..
One downside is on bad roads you feel it a little more, but the trade off for the good outweighs the bad.
10-16-2014, 06:35 AM
#18
Race Director
10-16-2014, 11:32 AM
#20
Race Director
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Certainly is. Lol. You're just used to it I'm sure.
Or those Texas roads are too flat and nice. :P
Or those Texas roads are too flat and nice. :P
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10-16-2014, 02:22 PM
#21
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
all 3? compliance bushing, trailing bushing, and the one under the shock?
If thats the case you should make these more well known. Most people are only comparing the price of a pair of oem compliance bushings.
For those of you who are saying this kit is too expensive... here's a breakdown of oem bushings
MSRP:
#9: $30.35
#10: $38.47 (for 04-06) $30.62 (for 07-08)
#11: $21.18
Now keep in mind you need 1 for both sides, so you'll be spending $180 + tax(9%) = $196.2
Yes, there will be online dealers who sell it for slightly cheaper, but dont forget to factor in shipping cost.
Now, does $300 for some upgraded bushings sound better?
If thats the case you should make these more well known. Most people are only comparing the price of a pair of oem compliance bushings.
For those of you who are saying this kit is too expensive... here's a breakdown of oem bushings
MSRP:
#9: $30.35
#10: $38.47 (for 04-06) $30.62 (for 07-08)
#11: $21.18
Now keep in mind you need 1 for both sides, so you'll be spending $180 + tax(9%) = $196.2
Yes, there will be online dealers who sell it for slightly cheaper, but dont forget to factor in shipping cost.
Now, does $300 for some upgraded bushings sound better?
10-16-2014, 02:27 PM
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10-17-2014, 01:32 PM
#24
Instructor
I read somewhere in one of Mackenzie's threads or somewhere else that it would be a good idea to add Loctite (probably blue) to the other suspension bolts because the vibration from adding this component could possibly cause them to back out or loosen up. Is this true? Or is this just another BS rumor?
10-17-2014, 01:44 PM
#25
Team Owner
I read somewhere in one of Mackenzie's threads or somewhere else that it would be a good idea to add Loctite (probably blue) to the other suspension bolts because the vibration from adding this component could possibly cause them to back out or loosen up. Is this true? Or is this just another BS rumor?
10-17-2014, 01:44 PM
#26
Instructor
Found it...https://acurazine.com/forums/problem.../#post14085320
#35....straight from mr.heeltoe himself, and he got that info straight from PCI.
Not too sure if I'd want to put something on my car that's gonna cause so much vibration that "it would not be a bad idea to put some mild loctite on some of the other suspension and subframe bolts, or to at least adjust the torque on the fasteners to compensate for the additional vibration."
Doesn't even sound safe no matter how u read it. If I have to over torque bolts or add Loctite as a "precautionary measure" then how worth it are these really?
#35....straight from mr.heeltoe himself, and he got that info straight from PCI.
Not too sure if I'd want to put something on my car that's gonna cause so much vibration that "it would not be a bad idea to put some mild loctite on some of the other suspension and subframe bolts, or to at least adjust the torque on the fasteners to compensate for the additional vibration."
Doesn't even sound safe no matter how u read it. If I have to over torque bolts or add Loctite as a "precautionary measure" then how worth it are these really?
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10-17-2014, 02:22 PM
#27
Team Owner
Found it...https://acurazine.com/forums/problem.../#post14085320
#35....straight from mr.heeltoe himself, and he got that info straight from PCI.
Not too sure if I'd want to put something on my car that's gonna cause so much vibration that "it would not be a bad idea to put some mild loctite on some of the other suspension and subframe bolts, or to at least adjust the torque on the fasteners to compensate for the additional vibration."
Doesn't even sound safe no matter how u read it. If I have to over torque bolts or add Loctite as a "precautionary measure" then how worth it are these really?
#35....straight from mr.heeltoe himself, and he got that info straight from PCI.
Not too sure if I'd want to put something on my car that's gonna cause so much vibration that "it would not be a bad idea to put some mild loctite on some of the other suspension and subframe bolts, or to at least adjust the torque on the fasteners to compensate for the additional vibration."
Doesn't even sound safe no matter how u read it. If I have to over torque bolts or add Loctite as a "precautionary measure" then how worth it are these really?
10-17-2014, 02:59 PM
#28
Moderator
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I honestly dont think the added vibrations will cause any bolts to come loose.
what about people who track cars with the stock bushing? Im sure those cars are more prone to forces even with the stock bushing. I dont hear of any bolts coming loose.
Its a rumor and marcus said it to protect himself. that is standard shop procedure, doesnt actually mean anything.
what about people who track cars with the stock bushing? Im sure those cars are more prone to forces even with the stock bushing. I dont hear of any bolts coming loose.
Its a rumor and marcus said it to protect himself. that is standard shop procedure, doesnt actually mean anything.
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10-18-2014, 10:38 AM
#33
Team Owner
What suspension mods does Evil Virus have? Curious to see as a comparison
10-18-2014, 10:26 PM
#34
Race Director
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10-19-2014, 12:29 AM
#35
As long as the locking pin is there, should be fine. Upper and lower ball joints have them. If there not there, stock or not…thats VERY unsafe.
Added vibrations are the only negative. Same with adding better engine mounts, stiffer suspension, rims with rubber band tires..etc.
Added vibrations are the only negative. Same with adding better engine mounts, stiffer suspension, rims with rubber band tires..etc.
10-19-2014, 02:48 AM
#36
I've had these on my 6 spd TL for over 10k miles now and i love them. Compared to my wife's auto TL that doesn't have them its night and day in the handling department. On flat road it's smooth and only harsh on bumps/dips aka uneven road. Overall its worth it to me but then again im on the stiffest dampening setting on my coils with a H&R sway bar up front and a Progress sway bar in the rear... 
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10-19-2014, 05:45 AM
#37
Racer
As long as the locking pin is there, should be fine. Upper and lower ball joints have them. If there not there, stock or not…thats VERY unsafe.
Added vibrations are the only negative. Same with adding better engine mounts, stiffer suspension, rims with rubber band tires..etc.
Added vibrations are the only negative. Same with adding better engine mounts, stiffer suspension, rims with rubber band tires..etc.
10-19-2014, 10:07 AM
#39
Racer
10-20-2014, 02:03 AM
#40
the pin is there so that the nut doesn't just come off as the LCA gets pressure put on them. Self locking means the nut is a design that stays there, but I still would use a locking pin. Haven't seen anything like your saying though.
