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Old 06-05-2014, 01:58 PM
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Wouldn't I have to renter all the preferences again?


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Old 06-05-2014, 02:06 PM
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Everyone should know all the boot key combos as well.

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I don't have a Mac so no thanks. My mom rarely uses her mini as well.


I'll just google next time
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If there is a next time.....
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Finished the SSD installation tonight along with removing the optical drive and replacing it with a secondary bay where I installed the HDD to serve as a data drive. So far everything is working well and is running much faster than before.

The SSD makes the computer feel like it's not running a Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz processor from 7 years ago.
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You can only go Mountain Lion on that right?
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You can only go Mountain Lion on that right?
Nope, currently running Mavericks and the beta for Yosemite is supported as well. And from what I have heard the release version of Yosemite will be supported so I am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
The SSD makes the computer feel like it's not running a Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz processor from 7 years ago.
Computer mfg going to be in trouble once the mass market figures out that they can make a computer last 10 years by installing SSD.
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Damn need to install mine then!
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Nope, currently running Mavericks and the beta for Yosemite is supported as well. And from what I have heard the release version of Yosemite will be supported so I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Cool.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Computer mfg going to be in trouble once the mass market figures out that they can make a computer last 10 years by installing SSD.
I truly don't think SSD's are going to be the reason how people can extend the life of their machines. An SSD's lifespan is shorter than an HDD, so if anything, it may make people more inclined to buy new when it gives out on them.

The fact of the matter is, most hardware that is produced can easily last a long time, my 2007 MBP is a testiment to that. However, because people 1) want the latest and greatest, and 2) lose patience when their older devices take a few extra seconds to perform a task, they ditch it and move on to something better. Sure an SSD helps improve the latter issue; however, most would be inclined to replace due to the perception that others may have as to why you are still lugging around that old device when you can have a new one. And the marketers do a great job of convincing the majority that they "need" the next best thing. Except most that upgrade don't need to have the fastest device to check email, browse the web and play games. In addition, I can easily have my MBP last another 5 years without the SSD, I could have just put a newer, standard HDD and it would have been just fine and definitely outlive the SSD; however, once OS X isn't supported on it, I'll probably ditch it within a year or two after that, but we'll see what happens when that time comes. If the Logic board or some other major component fails on it before then, I'll probably ditch it sooner as replacing those items doesn't make it cost effective to keep it.
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Yeah, you might be right. I know a guy that pays up for the new iPhone every year (besides Whiskers), just because.
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The write limits on even the new cheaper TLC based SSDs are 10+ years. No one buys any HDD and expects to get 10 years out of it. So that reason isn't as big as it once may have been.

I tell anyone, especially with laptops, that if they have an Intel based Mac that is still supported a SSD will give them 3 additional years of satisfactory performance. "Non-power" users though. Obviously if you are crunching numbers or in Adobe all the time HDD speed isn't going to make enough difference.

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Beta 2 out. Dark mode working a bit. Handoff sort of as well. Seems faster.
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^Would you call it usable?
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^Would you call it usable?
More then before, still not on my main partition. IOS 8 beta 2 is a bit better, they added predictive text.
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How do you like the text prediction?

I'm skeptical of it after having it on my first Android phone.
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So far it seems like Android's version.
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Got my invite for the beta and just installed it
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There's a "prevents sleep" column in the energy tab in Activity Monitor. I never got the battery draining sleep issue fixed so I just switched to Windows full time since it runs better on my Mac and OS X does

Let's see if Yosemite fixes it
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Can someone confirm or deny that Google Chrome is a huge energy hog on OS X? I wonder if it's the browser itself or an extension I have installed.
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Also got my beta, started the download last night, I'll complete the install when I get home from work tonight.
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So far all good.
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You can turn off transparency in Accessibility settings. I find transparency annoying and distracting in Safari. I don't mind it elsewhere but it seems that if you want to turn it off in Safari you have to turn it off everywhere.
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Killed my Bootcamp install of Win 8 had to redo it.
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Mine still works. But then I didn't I erased the entire drive installed Windows 8 first in EFI mode and then reinstalled mavericks, it doesn't use EFI legacy mode.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Can someone confirm or deny that Google Chrome is a huge energy hog on OS X? I wonder if it's the browser itself or an extension I have installed.
It is compared to Safari. My understanding is Safari saves power by using the Sandy Bridge+ graphics, while Firefox uses your computer's graphics card. That may be made up, but it sounds reasonable. I started using Safari due to Chrome battery drain and it is certainly a real thing.
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It's more than that since my rMBP doesn't have discrete graphics. I've pretty much switched over to Safari because of this, safari's ability to import my bookmarks from chrome sealed the deal.

Yosemite beta 2 is like a really nice. Everything that wasn't working in 10.9 is working great in 10.10. My horrible sleep battery drain issue is fixed! I can actually use OS X now!
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Which model do you have? I'm on the original rMBP with an Intel HD 4000.

I use Firefox without any battery issues
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late 2013. It's Chrome not FF

I found lots of people complaining about Chrome being a battery hog on OS X with no real explanation why.
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late 2013. It's Chrome not FF

I found lots of people complaining about Chrome being a battery hog on OS X with no real explanation why.
Yeah, in the past I noticed that to be true. I'll try it on mine again and see if there is still a difference.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Yosemite beta 2 is like a really nice. Everything that wasn't working in 10.9 is working great in 10.10. My horrible sleep battery drain issue is fixed! I can actually use OS X now!
So far so good for Yosemite here, as well. Beta 1 had some bugs in Safari, but since then Beta 2 is a huge improvement.
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Playing with GM of Yosemite. Will be good.
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No continuity with the GM of Yosemite and my late 2010 MBA.
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No continuity with the GM of Yosemite and my late 2010 MBA.
Weird, wonder why.
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It seems that it requires bluetooth LE




Yosemite 'Handoff' Feature Likely Limited to Macs with Bluetooth LE - Mac Rumors
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Ill have a 2014 MBA 11 inch for sale when the new ones come out....

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