Apple: macOS formerly OS X News and Discussion Thread
#481
Team Owner
What is in El Capitan that I need?
#482
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iWhackoff. New app that does everything for you. EVERYthing.
Actually:
http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/
Actually:
http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/
#483
Team Owner
Wow, rub the trackpad a few times and the mouse gets an erection. This I have to see.
#484
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update is 5.6GB
#485
Team Owner
#486
Team Owner
upgraded
#487
Go Giants
Much better downloading today.
#488
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Anyone proficient in Applescript?
I am wondering what the syntax would like like if someone had written a [.command] script to delete specific logs (system.log, security.log) from an OSX machine.
Any ideas?
I am wondering what the syntax would like like if someone had written a [.command] script to delete specific logs (system.log, security.log) from an OSX machine.
Any ideas?
#489
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Encryption question...
I use W10 via Bootcamp and OSX, and I want both partitions encrypted.
I see all kinds of shenanigans are required to use FV2 on the OSX side and a Whole Disk Encryption on the windows side as well, due to number of entries in the MBR Windows uses and their placement.
Has anyone actually accomplished this? It seems crazy that I cannot encrypt both partitions...
I use W10 via Bootcamp and OSX, and I want both partitions encrypted.
I see all kinds of shenanigans are required to use FV2 on the OSX side and a Whole Disk Encryption on the windows side as well, due to number of entries in the MBR Windows uses and their placement.
Has anyone actually accomplished this? It seems crazy that I cannot encrypt both partitions...
#490
Go Giants
Seems like a recipe for disaster
#491
Sanest Florida Man
I've been running it for a couple months with only one issue!
FV on OS X and BitLocker on Windows
if the Mac has a TPM chip it's hidden from Windows, so you have to go into group policy to enable BitLocker without TPM but one you do you can use a password at boot up.
The one issue I have is that the Mac doesn't see the NTFS partition any more so you can't read files on the Windows partition while in OS X and also that little applescript Sly Raskal helped me make to easily boot into Windows from OS X doesn't work anymore. Though I'm not fully convinced that I can't fix that issue, I just haven't been annoyed enough to put in the effort yet.
#492
Sanest Florida Man
Note: my Mac is a little different, when I got it I wiped out OS X and installed Windows natively to it in UEFI mode and not Bootcamp's BIOS emulation garbage. I then used Internet Recovery to reinstall OS X to the other half of the drive. IDK if that makes a difference or not but that's what I did.
#493
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OK, that sounds promising, I will look into the TPM issue.
My main issue is that both partitions are populated and I don't want to start from scratch to make this work...
Yes I could image both partitions, wipe and set up WDE and then blow the images back, but that's a PITA.
My main issue is that both partitions are populated and I don't want to start from scratch to make this work...
Yes I could image both partitions, wipe and set up WDE and then blow the images back, but that's a PITA.
#494
Sanest Florida Man
I didn't wipe anything before encrypting with BitLocker. I just chose to encrypt the entire partition
#495
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OK, backing up the W10 partition first.
What about the FV2? Were you starting from scratch or just "enabled" and ran with it?
What happens when you boot (Option-R)? You still get both "disks" and when you choose it asks for a password?
What about the FV2? Were you starting from scratch or just "enabled" and ran with it?
What happens when you boot (Option-R)? You still get both "disks" and when you choose it asks for a password?
#496
Sanest Florida Man
I don't recall ever encrypting a drive before installing an OS. So no.
Yes both disk show up when you hold option and I'm prompted to enter the BL pw when I boot to Windows. Though I don't currently have a firmware password on my Mac and FV doesn't prompt me for a pw to boot into OS X besides my usual account pw.
Yes both disk show up when you hold option and I'm prompted to enter the BL pw when I boot to Windows. Though I don't currently have a firmware password on my Mac and FV doesn't prompt me for a pw to boot into OS X besides my usual account pw.
#497
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I don't recall ever encrypting a drive before installing an OS. So no.
Yes both disk show up when you hold option and I'm prompted to enter the BL pw when I boot to Windows. Though I don't currently have a firmware password on my Mac and FV doesn't prompt me for a pw to boot into OS X besides my usual account pw.
Yes both disk show up when you hold option and I'm prompted to enter the BL pw when I boot to Windows. Though I don't currently have a firmware password on my Mac and FV doesn't prompt me for a pw to boot into OS X besides my usual account pw.
This posting seems to indicate MBR problems...
How to use both FileVault2 and Bitlocker simultaneously on a dual-boot Mac running bootcamp | joeraff.org
#498
Sanest Florida Man
No I did nothing special. Now I want to double check that I have FV on but my batteries dead and I don't have my charger on me
#499
Sanest Florida Man
I mean I'm almost 100% that OS X has FV turned on but I can't check it right now. If it's not then I fucked up because I meant to.
But then maybe I never had to deal with any issues in the link because I wiped out my entire drive and set it up how I wanted it and didn't use OS X to create the boot camp partition and don't use the BIOS emulator to run Windows, it runs in full UEFI mode alongside OS X.
But then maybe I never had to deal with any issues in the link because I wiped out my entire drive and set it up how I wanted it and didn't use OS X to create the boot camp partition and don't use the BIOS emulator to run Windows, it runs in full UEFI mode alongside OS X.
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I mean I'm almost 100% that OS X has FV turned on but I can't check it right now. If it's not then I fucked up because I meant to.
But then maybe I never had to deal with any issues in the link because I wiped out my entire drive and set it up how I wanted it and didn't use OS X to create the boot camp partition and don't use the BIOS emulator to run Windows, it runs in full UEFI mode alongside OS X.
But then maybe I never had to deal with any issues in the link because I wiped out my entire drive and set it up how I wanted it and didn't use OS X to create the boot camp partition and don't use the BIOS emulator to run Windows, it runs in full UEFI mode alongside OS X.
OK, well that's kind of an important detail you left out.
#501
Sanest Florida Man
No I didn't...
Note: my Mac is a little different, when I got it I wiped out OS X and installed Windows natively to it in UEFI mode and not Bootcamp's BIOS emulation garbage. I then used Internet Recovery to reinstall OS X to the other half of the drive. IDK if that makes a difference or not but that's what I did.
#502
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#503
Sanest Florida Man
Well, the Palestinians are innocent victims who haven't done anything wrong.
#504
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Touche.
Wait, they don't contribute to global warming?
Wait, they don't contribute to global warming?
#505
Sanest Florida Man
They do, we should wipe them off the map
Trump 2016!
Trump 2016!
#506
Sanest Florida Man
I checked and yes I do have FV enabled along with BL.
I did none of the things in that article to get both of them to work. It just worked when I tried it.
Here's my disk layout, notice that Windows was installed before OS X
I did none of the things in that article to get both of them to work. It just worked when I tried it.
Here's my disk layout, notice that Windows was installed before OS X
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stogie1020 (12-11-2015)
#507
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What happens when you power on the laptop? I assume you automatically get shown a UEFI boot option screen w/o having to hold OPTION right?
I have made a complete backup of each partition (OSX with SuperDuper! and W10 with DriveimageXML). I wonder if I can get mine set up the way you have it by wiping out the partitions, reinstalling the 2x OS's and then restoring the backups to their respective partitions...
I have made a complete backup of each partition (OSX with SuperDuper! and W10 with DriveimageXML). I wonder if I can get mine set up the way you have it by wiping out the partitions, reinstalling the 2x OS's and then restoring the backups to their respective partitions...
#508
Sanest Florida Man
No it's boots into OS X unless I changed the startup disk to Windows, which I can change in Windows but not OS X. If it boots into Windows then I get the BitLocker Password screen.
IDK, my Windows OS drive is setup as GPT and not MBR. I don't think you can do GPT in Bootcamp since it emulates BIOS, and IDK if you can restore an MBR disk to a GPT disk.
Here's how I would do it.
Can you go from MBR to GPT IDK, I'd probably ask you if I was in that situation.
IDK, my Windows OS drive is setup as GPT and not MBR. I don't think you can do GPT in Bootcamp since it emulates BIOS, and IDK if you can restore an MBR disk to a GPT disk.
Here's how I would do it.
- Boot to Windows install disc/USB
- Don't install choose repair installation
- advanced options > cmd prompt
- diskpart
- select disk 0
- clean
- exit
- exit
- turn off PC
- Boot into internet recovery (command + option + r)
- Partition drive in two partitions using disk utility (though you probably could do all the diskpart steps in disk utility too. I just know that's how I quickly wipe MBR drives and convert them to GPT (GPT initialization happens automatically during Windows install))
- boot back into windows install media
- Install OS as normal to first partition or restore from Windows Image backup
- do bitlocker now if you want
- boot into internet recovery and restore from backup (you should've used time machine)
- Turn on FileVault.
Can you go from MBR to GPT IDK, I'd probably ask you if I was in that situation.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 12-11-2015 at 04:38 PM.
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#510
Sanest Florida Man
Ha! I love that my own idea I had 2 years ago unintentionally saved me a headache years later.
That link has pretty much the same steps as I said above just a little more thorough. Though I definitely installed OS X years before enabling Bitlocker (which I did 3-4 months ago) and BL didn't break it.
You can use diskpart to format the disks too but I personally prefer the GUI of disk utility.
FYI the latest Public build 1511 of Windows 10 has an improved version of BitLocker encryption on there.
That link has pretty much the same steps as I said above just a little more thorough. Though I definitely installed OS X years before enabling Bitlocker (which I did 3-4 months ago) and BL didn't break it.
You can use diskpart to format the disks too but I personally prefer the GUI of disk utility.
FYI the latest Public build 1511 of Windows 10 has an improved version of BitLocker encryption on there.
#511
Sanest Florida Man
Apple is going to be replacing HFS+ with a new file system they're building. It's called APFS, here's a breakdown of the pros and cons of it from a ZFS developer
A ZFS developer's analysis of the good and bad in Apple's new APFS file system | Ars Technica
A ZFS developer's analysis of the good and bad in Apple's new APFS file system | Ars Technica
#512
Sanest Florida Man
Encryption question...
I use W10 via Bootcamp and OSX, and I want both partitions encrypted.
I see all kinds of shenanigans are required to use FV2 on the OSX side and a Whole Disk Encryption on the windows side as well, due to number of entries in the MBR Windows uses and their placement.
Has anyone actually accomplished this? It seems crazy that I cannot encrypt both partitions...
I use W10 via Bootcamp and OSX, and I want both partitions encrypted.
I see all kinds of shenanigans are required to use FV2 on the OSX side and a Whole Disk Encryption on the windows side as well, due to number of entries in the MBR Windows uses and their placement.
Has anyone actually accomplished this? It seems crazy that I cannot encrypt both partitions...
#513
Team Owner
Apple is going to be replacing HFS+ with a new file system they're building. It's called APFS, here's a breakdown of the pros and cons of it from a ZFS developer
A ZFS developer's analysis of the good and bad in Apple's new APFS file system | Ars Technica
A ZFS developer's analysis of the good and bad in Apple's new APFS file system | Ars Technica
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#515
Beta of macOS Sierra now available.
Who's going to be a guinea pig?
Who's going to be a guinea pig?
#516
Sanest Florida Man
#517
Go Giants
I went to WWDC and got the betas
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quit bragging
#519
Apple rolled out updates to fix WPA2 KRACK flaw today in macOS. About time. Thanks
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208221
Apple iOS 11.1, macOS 10.13.1 Patch KRACK WiFi Flaw
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208221
Apple iOS 11.1, macOS 10.13.1 Patch KRACK WiFi Flaw
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