NFL: Michael Vick Saga **Signs with Eagles (page 13)**
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
I can accept paypal to save you the gas driving to get the gift card
Vick's plea hearing will be Aug. 27 at 10:30 a.m. ET, Martin said. Judge Henry Hudson said Monday that no details of the plea agreement will be made public before Vick's hearing.
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Okay. Over/under to Vick playing the NFL...let's hear some predictions.
I say...3 years.
I say...3 years.
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Well, Michael Sick's been going to the hearings in a striped suit...so, I guess he was warming up to his attire for jail...?
#284
okay lets talk about time in the slammer and NFL punishment
here's my prediction:
if he they have him plead guilty to the dog fighting ONLY not the racketteering or maybe betting on NFL games. 24 months in the slammer. he can come back once he's out of jail(after 2 years)
if he bet on NFL games he's screwed min. 5 years in the slammer he'll never play NFL football again.
here's my prediction:
if he they have him plead guilty to the dog fighting ONLY not the racketteering or maybe betting on NFL games. 24 months in the slammer. he can come back once he's out of jail(after 2 years)
if he bet on NFL games he's screwed min. 5 years in the slammer he'll never play NFL football again.
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Originally Posted by gsi00154
We will disburse any funds on August 27th- the day of the hearing.
Vick's plea hearing will be Aug. 27 at 10:30 a.m. ET, Martin said. Judge Henry Hudson said Monday that no details of the plea agreement will be made public before Vick's hearing.
Vick's plea hearing will be Aug. 27 at 10:30 a.m. ET, Martin said. Judge Henry Hudson said Monday that no details of the plea agreement will be made public before Vick's hearing.
Deal, we'll talk through pm on Aug. 27
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Okay. Over/under to Vick playing the NFL...let's hear some predictions.
I say...3 years.
I say...3 years.
I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. I'll give him 5 years from the day he steps out of prison. $20?
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. I'll give him 5 years from the day he steps out of prison. $20?
No...I'm bad at betting stuff like this.
#289
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I've never heard of anyone being suspended for more than a year without being banned for life. I think it goes x amount of games, 1 year, permanent ban. So I'm gonna say he'll be banned forever ever!!
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
.50 dollars says he's sentenced to jail for > 1yr
and fixed, wouldn't be surprised if he got out a few months early.
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Originally Posted by sonnyg80
given its 12-18 months and a strict judge...
and fixed, wouldn't be surprised if he got out a few months early.
and fixed, wouldn't be surprised if he got out a few months early.
that's why I bet .50 dollars. and yeah, the getting out early was what I was betting against. Let me rephrase:
.50 dollars says he sits in prison for > 1 yr before being released.
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
that's why I bet .50 dollars. and yeah, the getting out early was what I was betting against. Let me rephrase:
.50 dollars says he sits in prison for > 1 yr before being released.
.50 dollars says he sits in prison for > 1 yr before being released.
.50 + paypal fees and it's a deal That means .50 +/- .03 and I have him sitting less than 365 days.
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
.50 + paypal fees and it's a deal That means .50 +/- .03 and I have him sitting less than 365 days.
done. but I'd rather avoid paypal. cut a check? what about money order?
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Originally Posted by revitupwriteitoff
done. but I'd rather avoid paypal. cut a check? what about money order?
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^ Nice!
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
Don't know what naira is?
Rev what does your new avatar mean?
Rev what does your new avatar mean?
naira = monetary denomination of another country (look it up )
my av was supposed to be a .gif I found & really liked, but when sonnyg took out some frames for me to make it av-sized, it sped it up quite a bit, so you can't see it. It's Mario, from Mario 3 on NES, throwing one of those sledgehammers that kills everything into the middle of the death star from star wars, then the death star drops off the screen & you get a billion points for 'killing' it. it's way too fast to enjoy, but I'm too lazy to change it.
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Dogs seized in Vick investigation face deadline, could be euthanized
From ESPN...
RICHMOND, Va. -- More than 50 pit bulls seized from Michael Vick's property face a Thursday deadline to be claimed. If no one comes forward, they could be euthanized.
Federal prosecutors filed court documents last month to condemn 53 pit bulls seized in April as part of the investigation into dogfighting on the Vick's property. No one has claimed any of the dogs, which are being held at several unspecified shelters in eastern Virginia, the U.S. Attorney's office said Wednesday.
The civil complaint filed by federal prosecutors does not name the Atlanta Falcons quarterback and is separate from the criminal case against him. But it does state the pit bulls were part of the dogfighting operation known as "Bad Newz Kennels," which Vick and three cohorts are accused of operating.
Also included in the document are detailed allegations about the nature of the animals' training regimen and the dogfights occurring at Vick's property at 1915 Moonlight Road in Surry County.
The government filed three public civil forfeiture notices in a Richmond newspaper to publicize the dogs' confiscation, and the deadline for claims is 30 days after the appearance of the final notice, filed July 24.
Federal prosecutors declined to comment Wednesday on the seized dogs. Typically, when confiscated property goes unclaimed, the government asks the court to have the items declared forfeited. In this case, U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson will make the final decision on the dogs' fate.
"There's no dispute over who owns the dogs," said Daphna Nachminovitch, a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. "Obviously this is not going to be a process where someone steps forward and says, 'This is my dog, can I have her back, please?' "
Though Hudson, who also is handling Vick's criminal case, will determine what becomes of the pit bulls, Nachminovitch said that it's likely that they will be euthanized because they're not adoptable as pets.
"These dogs are a ticking time bomb," she said. "Rehabilitating fighting dogs is not in the cards. It's widely accepted that euthanasia is the most humane thing for them."
Vick, 27, said through a lawyer this week that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. He is scheduled to enter his plea agreement Monday and could face up to five years in prison.
Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and agreed to testify against him if the case went to trial. They said Vick provided virtually all the gambling and operating funds for the Bad Newz Kennels enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs by various means, including drowning and hanging.
The locations of the shelters holding the dogs haven't been disclosed out of concern that the animals could be stolen, Nachminovitch said.
"They are a hot commodity in the world of dogfighting," she said.
Federal prosecutors filed court documents last month to condemn 53 pit bulls seized in April as part of the investigation into dogfighting on the Vick's property. No one has claimed any of the dogs, which are being held at several unspecified shelters in eastern Virginia, the U.S. Attorney's office said Wednesday.
The civil complaint filed by federal prosecutors does not name the Atlanta Falcons quarterback and is separate from the criminal case against him. But it does state the pit bulls were part of the dogfighting operation known as "Bad Newz Kennels," which Vick and three cohorts are accused of operating.
Also included in the document are detailed allegations about the nature of the animals' training regimen and the dogfights occurring at Vick's property at 1915 Moonlight Road in Surry County.
The government filed three public civil forfeiture notices in a Richmond newspaper to publicize the dogs' confiscation, and the deadline for claims is 30 days after the appearance of the final notice, filed July 24.
Federal prosecutors declined to comment Wednesday on the seized dogs. Typically, when confiscated property goes unclaimed, the government asks the court to have the items declared forfeited. In this case, U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson will make the final decision on the dogs' fate.
"There's no dispute over who owns the dogs," said Daphna Nachminovitch, a spokeswoman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. "Obviously this is not going to be a process where someone steps forward and says, 'This is my dog, can I have her back, please?' "
Though Hudson, who also is handling Vick's criminal case, will determine what becomes of the pit bulls, Nachminovitch said that it's likely that they will be euthanized because they're not adoptable as pets.
"These dogs are a ticking time bomb," she said. "Rehabilitating fighting dogs is not in the cards. It's widely accepted that euthanasia is the most humane thing for them."
Vick, 27, said through a lawyer this week that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture. He is scheduled to enter his plea agreement Monday and could face up to five years in prison.
Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and agreed to testify against him if the case went to trial. They said Vick provided virtually all the gambling and operating funds for the Bad Newz Kennels enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs by various means, including drowning and hanging.
The locations of the shelters holding the dogs haven't been disclosed out of concern that the animals could be stolen, Nachminovitch said.
"They are a hot commodity in the world of dogfighting," she said.
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The line of the day from Mike Lupica of the NY Daily News...
"Who would have ever thought that Marcus Vick would turn out to be the good brother?''
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So...I am in total agreement that Vick should face the music for his involvement in such a deplorable bloodsport.
However, I do have a thought at the amount of outrage and protest of this case...Certainly, dogs are important and animals should have rights. So, what he did was inexcusable. But, why are wife-beaters not getting this kind of rap...? What I mean is, I don't hear/read the same amount of chatter calling for their life-time bans from their respective sports leagues...
Examples:
- You have Kobe who sexually assaulted someone...and he's free.
- You have Pittman who rammed his Hummer at his pregnant wife's vehicle and only getting a 3-game ban.
- You have Brett Myers dragging his wife by the hair and yet he was never banned.
And the examples will go on...like, WTF...? Dogs are more important than...women...?
However, I do have a thought at the amount of outrage and protest of this case...Certainly, dogs are important and animals should have rights. So, what he did was inexcusable. But, why are wife-beaters not getting this kind of rap...? What I mean is, I don't hear/read the same amount of chatter calling for their life-time bans from their respective sports leagues...
Examples:
- You have Kobe who sexually assaulted someone...and he's free.
- You have Pittman who rammed his Hummer at his pregnant wife's vehicle and only getting a 3-game ban.
- You have Brett Myers dragging his wife by the hair and yet he was never banned.
And the examples will go on...like, WTF...? Dogs are more important than...women...?
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
So...I am in total agreement that Vick should face the music for his involvement in such a deplorable bloodsport.
However, I do have a thought at the amount of outrage and protest of this case...Certainly, dogs are important and animals should have rights. So, what he did was inexcusable. But, why are wife-beaters not getting this kind of rap...? What I mean is, I don't hear/read the same amount of chatter calling for their life-time bans from their respective sports leagues...
Examples:
- You have Kobe who sexually assaulted someone...and he's free.
- You have Pittman who rammed his Hummer at his pregnant wife's vehicle and only getting a 3-game ban.
- You have Brett Myers dragging his wife by the hair and yet he was never banned.
And the examples will go on...like, WTF...? Dogs are more important than...women...?
However, I do have a thought at the amount of outrage and protest of this case...Certainly, dogs are important and animals should have rights. So, what he did was inexcusable. But, why are wife-beaters not getting this kind of rap...? What I mean is, I don't hear/read the same amount of chatter calling for their life-time bans from their respective sports leagues...
Examples:
- You have Kobe who sexually assaulted someone...and he's free.
- You have Pittman who rammed his Hummer at his pregnant wife's vehicle and only getting a 3-game ban.
- You have Brett Myers dragging his wife by the hair and yet he was never banned.
And the examples will go on...like, WTF...? Dogs are more important than...women...?
2. Kobe didnt plead guilty and won his case.
Does Ray Carruth ring a bell? He was convicted of killing his pregger GF. Have you seen him catching any passes recently?
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Originally Posted by joerockt
1. No one was murdered.
2. Kobe didnt plead guilty and won his case.
Does Ray Carruth ring a bell? He was convicted of killing his pregger GF. Have you seen him catching any passes recently?
2. Kobe didnt plead guilty and won his case.
Does Ray Carruth ring a bell? He was convicted of killing his pregger GF. Have you seen him catching any passes recently?
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...s145558D68.DTL
The NFL indefinitely suspended Michael Vick without pay Friday just hours after he acknowledged in court papers that he did, indeed, bankroll gambling on dogfighting and helped kill some dogs not worthy of the pit.
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Vick = , , and
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Falcons reportedly want Vick to return $22M
Vick was suspended indefinitely without pay by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Friday, only hours after Vick acknowledged his guilt to some dogfighting charges. In announcing the suspension, Goodell also opened the way for the Falcons to attempt to recover $22 million of Vick’s signing bonus from the 10-year, $130 million contract he signed in 2004.
“I have advised the Falcons that, with my decision today, they are no longer prohibited from acting and are now free to assert any claims or remedies available to them under the Collective Bargaining Agreement or your NFL Player Contract,” Goodell said Friday
“I have advised the Falcons that, with my decision today, they are no longer prohibited from acting and are now free to assert any claims or remedies available to them under the Collective Bargaining Agreement or your NFL Player Contract,” Goodell said Friday
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Originally Posted by gsi00154
We will disburse any funds on August 27th- the day of the hearing.
Vick's plea hearing will be Aug. 27 at 10:30 a.m. ET, Martin said. Judge Henry Hudson said Monday that no details of the plea agreement will be made public before Vick's hearing.
Vick's plea hearing will be Aug. 27 at 10:30 a.m. ET, Martin said. Judge Henry Hudson said Monday that no details of the plea agreement will be made public before Vick's hearing.
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People do make mistakes, but I do think it may be too early to give him some slack. But considering the next 1-2 years of his life are going to be shitty enough I don't care. I always give a person a second chance, even if they do mess up as bad as he did. If he messes up again then I'll have no sympathy for him.
I've made mistakes in my life, and I am sure 95% of the people on this forum have also.
I've made mistakes in my life, and I am sure 95% of the people on this forum have also.
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Originally Posted by hornyleprechaun
People do make mistakes, but I do think it may be too early to give him some slack. But considering the next 1-2 years of his life are going to be shitty enough I don't care. I always give a person a second chance, even if they do mess up as bad as he did. If he messes up again then I'll have no sympathy for him.
I've made mistakes in my life, and I am sure 95% of the people on this forum have also.
I've made mistakes in my life, and I am sure 95% of the people on this forum have also.
#319
^^^ Once he does his punishment, I have no problem. As long as he doesn't get into trouble again. The State of Virginia is talking a lot about bringing charges up against him as well.
The quote I heard on the news last night is that they were supporting him because of the human being that he is. Well the human being in him is a dog killer.
Originally Posted by slayer202
anyone else find it disgusting that people are outside the courtroom supporting him?
The quote I heard on the news last night is that they were supporting him because of the human being that he is. Well the human being in him is a dog killer.
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Originally Posted by bent09
Sounds like he is not even going to get cut. Do the Flacons just not understand Karma? Enjoy an 0-16 season and paying up!
Vick is the most idolized athlete in Atlanta.
It's going to be a 2-14 season with the 2 wins being against the Bucs.