NFL: 2014 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
#121
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
32 picks in, 18 defensive players, 5 O-line, 5 WR, 3 QB, 1 TE, 0 RB.
Looks like D is the fashion and no love for the RBs. Now I'm annoyed that I waited this long just to have to wait for the second round.
Looks like D is the fashion and no love for the RBs. Now I'm annoyed that I waited this long just to have to wait for the second round.
#123
Senior Moderator
But at least people watch the NFL draft
#124
Welcome, Stevie.
More of this, please.
More of this, please.
#125
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
Anyone else tired of the Manziel circus? I get it they are just trying to sell the interesting story lines, but enough already.
#129
The sizzle in the Steak
Class Action Suit Against NFL For ‘Culture Of Drug Misuse
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — Former 49ers Pro Bowl center Jeremy Newberry has joined other former football stars Richard Dent, Jim McMahon and Roy Green in filing a class-action lawsuit against the National Football League alleging illegal and rampant misuse of pain-killing medications that led to debilitating injuries and long-term health problems.
The suit was also filed on behalf of “hundreds” of additional former players Tuesday in San Francisco Federal Court.
In a copy of the lawsuit obtained by KPIX 5, the players allege the misuse of pain-killing pills and injections – without a doctor’s prescription or explanation of side effects – were necessary to keep players on the field and helped turn the NFL into a billion-dollar empire.
“We have not seen the lawsuit and our attorneys have not had an opportunity to review it,” said Brian McCarthy, Vice President of Communications for the National Football League.
According to the lawsuit, “…the NFL has intentionally, recklessly, and negligently developed a culture of drug misuse, substituting players’ health for profit.” The players seek financial compensation for the long-term chronic injuries, financial losses and long-term health care for future problems they will suffer.
Newberry, who also spent a season with the Oakland Raiders, was a two-time Pro Bowl center for the San Francisco 49ers who played 11 seasons in the NFL, nine in San Francisco. He has also worked as an NFL analyst for KPIX 5 in San Francisco. After years of taking the pain-killing drug Toradol, the 38-year-old Newberry says his kidneys function at 30 percent. He says nobody ever warned him about the long-term consequences of pain killers.
“A lot of times team trainers were giving out drugs, none of them have a medical degree,” said Newberry. “Some of them aren’t even licensed and they’re handing out drugs. They’re handing out anti-inflammatory. They’re handing out pain killers. They’re handing out sleeping pills. They’re handing out this stuff all together.”
Newberry and the other former players are also seeking changes in the way the NFL distributes pain killing drugs, including Toradol, an anti-inflammatory drug that is most commonly used in emergency rooms and post-operation wards to help patients manage pain. Newberry claims Toradol was taken by “half the team” just before kick-off.
“The Toradol line was crazy,” Newberry said. “The general public wouldn’t believe. It’s almost like a cattle call when you have 20 to 25 guys standing with their pants half down, waiting in line for a doctor who’s got a hundred different syringes lined up and you walk through, they’re sticking you one at a time, you walk in and out, takes all of a couple seconds, they’ve got the needles pre-loaded and they’re shooting up half the team in some cases.”
Newberry said he wanted to be a part of the lawsuit to help promote change in the NFL culture that he says relies too heavily on forcing players to mask pain to play football.
“If I don’t voice my opinion, if I don’t stand up for what’s right, and I know that the drug culture is not right and I know that the way they administer the drugs isn’t right and I’ve got nephews that play football and I’ve got little guys that are coming up, my son, if he happens to play football, if I don’t do something to change this game and it happens to them, shame on me,” Newberry said.
The lawsuit is the second in recent years accusing the NFL of medical misconduct. In August of 2013, the league and former players reached a $765 million settlement stemming from a concussion lawsuit. Earlier this year, a U.S. District Judge rejected the initial settlement “fearing the sum may not be enough to cover injured players.”
The suit was also filed on behalf of “hundreds” of additional former players Tuesday in San Francisco Federal Court.
In a copy of the lawsuit obtained by KPIX 5, the players allege the misuse of pain-killing pills and injections – without a doctor’s prescription or explanation of side effects – were necessary to keep players on the field and helped turn the NFL into a billion-dollar empire.
“We have not seen the lawsuit and our attorneys have not had an opportunity to review it,” said Brian McCarthy, Vice President of Communications for the National Football League.
According to the lawsuit, “…the NFL has intentionally, recklessly, and negligently developed a culture of drug misuse, substituting players’ health for profit.” The players seek financial compensation for the long-term chronic injuries, financial losses and long-term health care for future problems they will suffer.
Newberry, who also spent a season with the Oakland Raiders, was a two-time Pro Bowl center for the San Francisco 49ers who played 11 seasons in the NFL, nine in San Francisco. He has also worked as an NFL analyst for KPIX 5 in San Francisco. After years of taking the pain-killing drug Toradol, the 38-year-old Newberry says his kidneys function at 30 percent. He says nobody ever warned him about the long-term consequences of pain killers.
“A lot of times team trainers were giving out drugs, none of them have a medical degree,” said Newberry. “Some of them aren’t even licensed and they’re handing out drugs. They’re handing out anti-inflammatory. They’re handing out pain killers. They’re handing out sleeping pills. They’re handing out this stuff all together.”
Newberry and the other former players are also seeking changes in the way the NFL distributes pain killing drugs, including Toradol, an anti-inflammatory drug that is most commonly used in emergency rooms and post-operation wards to help patients manage pain. Newberry claims Toradol was taken by “half the team” just before kick-off.
“The Toradol line was crazy,” Newberry said. “The general public wouldn’t believe. It’s almost like a cattle call when you have 20 to 25 guys standing with their pants half down, waiting in line for a doctor who’s got a hundred different syringes lined up and you walk through, they’re sticking you one at a time, you walk in and out, takes all of a couple seconds, they’ve got the needles pre-loaded and they’re shooting up half the team in some cases.”
Newberry said he wanted to be a part of the lawsuit to help promote change in the NFL culture that he says relies too heavily on forcing players to mask pain to play football.
“If I don’t voice my opinion, if I don’t stand up for what’s right, and I know that the drug culture is not right and I know that the way they administer the drugs isn’t right and I’ve got nephews that play football and I’ve got little guys that are coming up, my son, if he happens to play football, if I don’t do something to change this game and it happens to them, shame on me,” Newberry said.
The lawsuit is the second in recent years accusing the NFL of medical misconduct. In August of 2013, the league and former players reached a $765 million settlement stemming from a concussion lawsuit. Earlier this year, a U.S. District Judge rejected the initial settlement “fearing the sum may not be enough to cover injured players.”
#131
The sizzle in the Steak
#133
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
This will get worse before it gets bettter. As these players age and these issues start to become more frequent, expect this to be an on-going issue.
#135
Senior Moderator
Board Strips Redskins Trademark
This is rather interesting...and probably means more to the Skins fans but, if a name is seriously offensive to a culture, I mean, should it not be renamed?
Can you imagine if there was a team called the N*gros...? Kinda the same argument here.
From here: http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=455105
Can you imagine if there was a team called the N*gros...? Kinda the same argument here.
From here: http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=455105
The U.S. Patent Office ruled Wednesday that the Washington Redskins nickname is "disparaging of Native Americans" and that the team's federal trademarks for the name must be cancelled.
The 2-1 ruling comes after a campaign to change the name has gained momentum over the past year. The team doesn't immediately lose trademark protection and is allowed to retain it during an appeal.
Redskins owner Daniel Snyder has refused to change the team's name, citing tradition, but there has been growing pressure including statements in recent months from President Barack Obama, lawmakers of both parties and civil rights groups.
The decision means that the team can continue to use the Redskins name, but it would lose a significant portion of its ability to protect the financial interests connected to its use. If others printed the name on sweatshirts, apparel, or other team material, it becomes more difficult to go after groups who use it without permission.
The decision by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board is similar to one it issued in 1999. That ruling was overturned in 2003 in large part on a technicality after the courts decided that the plaintiffs were too old and should have filed their complaint soon after the Redskins registered their nickname in 1967.
The new case was launched in 2006 by a younger group of Native Americans, and was heard by the board in March of last year.
The group argued that the Redskins should lose their federal trademark protection based on a law that prohibits registered names that are disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous or disreputable. The case involves six registered trademarks that involve the use of the word Redskins, but it does not apply to the team's logo.
Suzan Shown Harjo, one of the plaintiffs who testified at last year's hearing, said she was "thrilled and delighted" with the decision. The Redskins did not immediately comment.
The 2-1 ruling comes after a campaign to change the name has gained momentum over the past year. The team doesn't immediately lose trademark protection and is allowed to retain it during an appeal.
Redskins owner Daniel Snyder has refused to change the team's name, citing tradition, but there has been growing pressure including statements in recent months from President Barack Obama, lawmakers of both parties and civil rights groups.
The decision means that the team can continue to use the Redskins name, but it would lose a significant portion of its ability to protect the financial interests connected to its use. If others printed the name on sweatshirts, apparel, or other team material, it becomes more difficult to go after groups who use it without permission.
The decision by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board is similar to one it issued in 1999. That ruling was overturned in 2003 in large part on a technicality after the courts decided that the plaintiffs were too old and should have filed their complaint soon after the Redskins registered their nickname in 1967.
The new case was launched in 2006 by a younger group of Native Americans, and was heard by the board in March of last year.
The group argued that the Redskins should lose their federal trademark protection based on a law that prohibits registered names that are disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous or disreputable. The case involves six registered trademarks that involve the use of the word Redskins, but it does not apply to the team's logo.
Suzan Shown Harjo, one of the plaintiffs who testified at last year's hearing, said she was "thrilled and delighted" with the decision. The Redskins did not immediately comment.
#136
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
This is a real stretch to say that the phrase Redskins is "disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous and disreputable". But whatever. This is the new America where if it offends you then it must disappear from the culture. If I were Snyder I wouldn't fight it too hard - this is a no-win. But I'd also want to know who is going to pay for changing the logo, name, merchansise, etc.
#137
Senior Moderator
This is a real stretch to say that the phrase Redskins is "disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous and disreputable". But whatever. This is the new America where if it offends you then it must disappear from the culture. If I were Snyder I wouldn't fight it too hard - this is a no-win. But I'd also want to know who is going to pay for changing the logo, name, merchansise, etc.
It didn't just appear yesterday (alluding to your "new America" comment).
Again, I ask you: If you had a team called the [City] Neg*os...and say, you were African-American, would that tick you off even if the team has had that name since forever?
This is kinda the same thing, no?
If the NBA will strip a racist owner his team due to making a personal comment to his gold-digging-GF.......
#138
Team Owner
It's not new news that Native Americans have hated the name. Probably popularized now since the internet has blown up exponentially in the last few years. And yes they find it offensive. They consider it their N word. It's their country too.
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#139
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
I guess I didn't think it was the same thing, but after reading Doom's comment and thinking about it, if Native Americans find it as offensive as the N-word, then sure we should change it. I just didn't realize Redskin and N-word were on equal footing in terms of offense.
#140
I have a coworker who is Native American and a Cowboys fan. So he hates the Skins that much more. He told me, imagine if there were a team called the Detroit N-words.
As far as Donald Sterling goes, I think his comment was taken out of context but hey, whatever.
As far as Donald Sterling goes, I think his comment was taken out of context but hey, whatever.
#141
Senior Moderator
Sure, he's had prior history of being a scum to minorities but...to strip him of ownership of his own team and fine him like that for a conversation he had with his ugly GF because it was... racist?!?? Really?
The fact that an NFL franchise has a name that a visible minority finds extremely derogatory and offensive is worse. Snyder and his defenders need to get their heads out of their butts and just relent and acknowledge that.
#142
That's the thing...I don't even think what Sterling did was that horrid.
Sure, he's had prior history of being a scum to minorities but...to strip him of ownership of his own team and fine him like that for a conversation he had with his ugly GF because it was... racist?!?? Really?
The fact that an NFL franchise has a name that a visible minority finds extremely derogatory and offensive is worse. Snyder and his defenders need to get their heads out of their butts and just relent and acknowledge that.
Sure, he's had prior history of being a scum to minorities but...to strip him of ownership of his own team and fine him like that for a conversation he had with his ugly GF because it was... racist?!?? Really?
The fact that an NFL franchise has a name that a visible minority finds extremely derogatory and offensive is worse. Snyder and his defenders need to get their heads out of their butts and just relent and acknowledge that.
Most of his team's roster is black FFS. I'm sure he has many more black employees.
edit: after looking into some more, he actually was pretty racist http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...e=jones/060810
ANYWAY, my new stance is the term 'Redskins' and Donald Sterling are both racist
#143
In regards to the whole renter thing in my previous post, this will be treading a fine line here, but I'll say it how it is.
If you've ever rented property to somebody, especially if it's connected to your own home, you're a damn fool if you don't selectively choose who uses your property. It is straight up discrimination. But it is justified, to a certain extent. You wouldn't allow some tweaker picking at their skin to rent a room would you? People will discriminate based on appearance/race/age/children/pets/etc. too but they won't say it out loud.
I think the problem is just the scale that he did it on. Discriminating entire apartment complexes. And blatantly doing it based on race alone - my guess is Sterling told his people to forget about even interviewing certain races.
back to the topic - FOOTBALL
If you've ever rented property to somebody, especially if it's connected to your own home, you're a damn fool if you don't selectively choose who uses your property. It is straight up discrimination. But it is justified, to a certain extent. You wouldn't allow some tweaker picking at their skin to rent a room would you? People will discriminate based on appearance/race/age/children/pets/etc. too but they won't say it out loud.
I think the problem is just the scale that he did it on. Discriminating entire apartment complexes. And blatantly doing it based on race alone - my guess is Sterling told his people to forget about even interviewing certain races.
back to the topic - FOOTBALL
#145
Old Man Yelling at Clouds
^ Longest 50 days of the year IMO. Just baseball......
#146
Sanest Florida Man
Ray Rice gets suspended for two games for knocking out his wife in an elevator
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#148
I love how people are only talking about Ray Rice, I'm pretty sure his wife was beating the shit out of him as this was happening. She was arrested and charge with assault as well.
#150
Senior Moderator
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So, Gordon gets a year for smoking dope, but you only get 2 games for knocking a bitch out on camera?
#152
Was Lawrence Taylor ever suspended for crack?
Or if an NFL player got caught with cocaine, how long would he be suspended for? Assuming the same quantities (e.g. personal vs. distribution)
Or if an NFL player got caught with cocaine, how long would he be suspended for? Assuming the same quantities (e.g. personal vs. distribution)
#155
Sanest Florida Man
So who's going to pick up Brett Favre on a one year contract?
#157
This wasn't domestic abuse, if was a domestic fight in public. But there will be those that harp on this just to harp on it.....
#158
Senior Moderator
My one post gave you all that? Keep on? With my one post? Unless I missed some of my own posts I'm not sure what I'm keeping on about.
There's no excuse for knocking out a women, period. There are a myriad of other ways to deal with the situation, regardless of the fact that she was hitting him.
There's no excuse for knocking out a women, period. There are a myriad of other ways to deal with the situation, regardless of the fact that she was hitting him.
#159
She had no scratches or bruises on her. If a guy of his strength hit her, there would be marks.
The police do not allow domestic abuse victims to leave and go home with their abuser, which they did in this case.
Neither one of them ever admitted to actually hitting the other. During their joint press conference they talked about both making mistakes and using poor judgement that night. Neither of them has ever come out and said the other person hit them.
The only people to have seen the elevator video are the police/prosecution and the NFL. The NFL and prosecution both gave him only a slap on the wrist and the police let them leave the scene together. What does that imply?
You can't believe everything TMZ says...
The police do not allow domestic abuse victims to leave and go home with their abuser, which they did in this case.
Neither one of them ever admitted to actually hitting the other. During their joint press conference they talked about both making mistakes and using poor judgement that night. Neither of them has ever come out and said the other person hit them.
The only people to have seen the elevator video are the police/prosecution and the NFL. The NFL and prosecution both gave him only a slap on the wrist and the police let them leave the scene together. What does that imply?
You can't believe everything TMZ says...
#160
Senior Moderator
The only info I'm going off on was what I hear on sports radio/media and the video of him dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator. So I assumed (like many I'm sure) that he had something to do with her being unconscious. Maybe she slipped and fell
I'm not advocating he get more than 2 games or should be more severely punished by the law. My point is simply that only under rare/extenuating circumstances should a man lay his hands on a woman. Since I'm heard nothing about Rice being threatened with a gun or knife, it didn't appear to be a situation that called for him knocking her out with a punch. If in fact that's what happened.
I'm not advocating he get more than 2 games or should be more severely punished by the law. My point is simply that only under rare/extenuating circumstances should a man lay his hands on a woman. Since I'm heard nothing about Rice being threatened with a gun or knife, it didn't appear to be a situation that called for him knocking her out with a punch. If in fact that's what happened.