College Football: 2014 Season News and Discussion Thread
#202
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The discussion here is Boise State (the little guys really), not your opinion on OSU.
I should have known saying that, to a Baton Rouge dweller, wasn't the proper path to walk down. Typical.
Say whatever you want but OSU is one of the finest in the country.
I should have known saying that, to a Baton Rouge dweller, wasn't the proper path to walk down. Typical.
Say whatever you want but OSU is one of the finest in the country.
#203
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we could care less about OSU, we have enough beef with bama/florida/ole miss and auburn to last a lifetime.
im speaking from somebody who plays OSU once every solar eclipse... they could lose 5 games this year, and be ranked top 10 going into next season.
not discounting the program. its just a fact... the polls love bama and nick saban too.. just comes with the territory of having a historically good team.
(I must say it was fun seeing the red and white in the French Quarter quickly deplete itself moments after the game was over.)
im speaking from somebody who plays OSU once every solar eclipse... they could lose 5 games this year, and be ranked top 10 going into next season.
not discounting the program. its just a fact... the polls love bama and nick saban too.. just comes with the territory of having a historically good team.
(I must say it was fun seeing the red and white in the French Quarter quickly deplete itself moments after the game was over.)
Last edited by Rockstar21; 10-28-2014 at 02:49 PM.
#204
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You're right, it comes with the territory. And historically there aren't many better than OSU as a whole.
#205
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this new system wont favor history though. just battle-tested seasons with some grit in it. (idealistically)
the polls are there to keep up with statistics and cross referencing match-ups. basically strength of schedule and quality of wins.
this is supposed to rid the system of having an undefeated powerhouse from entering the championship game without having anything to show for it.
sure there will be politics involved, but the idea is to have less than before.
the polls are there to keep up with statistics and cross referencing match-ups. basically strength of schedule and quality of wins.
this is supposed to rid the system of having an undefeated powerhouse from entering the championship game without having anything to show for it.
sure there will be politics involved, but the idea is to have less than before.
Last edited by Rockstar21; 10-28-2014 at 03:09 PM.
#207
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Think they did alright.
#209
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To be perfectly honest I'd say they got lucky.
Winston should have ended up with 6 INTs last night. Lol
Winston should have ended up with 6 INTs last night. Lol
#211
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ULa-Monroe tomorrow... Think we have a chance?
#214
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#218
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#219
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Good for Oregon.
This weekend is going to be huge.
Baylor > OK
K > Georgia
Wisc > Purdue
Syr > Duke
Aub > A&M
AR S > ND
W > UCLA
KS > TCU
LSU > BAMA
MSU > OSU
O > UTAH
Sadly, I don't think the Buckeyes have what it takes for MSU at East Lansing.
This weekend is going to be huge.
Baylor > OK
K > Georgia
Wisc > Purdue
Syr > Duke
Aub > A&M
AR S > ND
W > UCLA
KS > TCU
LSU > BAMA
MSU > OSU
O > UTAH
Sadly, I don't think the Buckeyes have what it takes for MSU at East Lansing.
#220
The Dumb One
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top 4 looks like I expected.
football to play. games to be won/lost.
Bama comes to death valley Saturday night. never a fun road game for opponents. I'll be there and i'll be obliterated. beware of orange text posts..
football to play. games to be won/lost.
Bama comes to death valley Saturday night. never a fun road game for opponents. I'll be there and i'll be obliterated. beware of orange text posts..
#223
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Why do they love to kiss Oregon's ass? I don't get it. Who have they beaten and who have they lost to? Those two metrics easily put them out of the top 8.
Hopefully it's only because they have played one more game than the others.
Hopefully it's only because they have played one more game than the others.
#224
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Well they beat a #8, #18, not a horrible loss vs a good Arizona team, big numbers and a likely Heisman winner...
Seems legit enough for me. Hell I'd honestly put them over FSU.
Seems legit enough for me. Hell I'd honestly put them over FSU.
#225
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But they lost at home, and the team they lost to lost to USC and UCLA. If Oregon wasn't overrated, Arizona wouldn't have made it to #10. There was no basis to rank Oregon as high as they did, and when they lose, suddenly the team that beat them is really good? They shift the whole PAC 12 up based on a pre-season ranking of a team who hasn't really done anything in how many years?
Honestly, I think TCU, Baylor, Notre Dame, and Ole Miss would beat Oregon on a neutral field. I just don't understand why they are ranked so high every single year.
Honestly, I think TCU, Baylor, Notre Dame, and Ole Miss would beat Oregon on a neutral field. I just don't understand why they are ranked so high every single year.
Last edited by oo7spy; 11-06-2014 at 09:30 AM.
#226
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If only there were 8 teams in the playoff and we wouldn't have to speculate so much... Lol
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#230
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Seriously, I don't understand the decision.
5 major conference champions and 3 at large bids (likely just more SEC teams).
More games, fans are happy for more football, more money, and a definitive champion.
5 major conference champions and 3 at large bids (likely just more SEC teams).
More games, fans are happy for more football, more money, and a definitive champion.
#232
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Especially considering that would only require 7 games total and there are 6 major bowls now. Add a separate title game and you're done. Rose, Fiesta, Cotton, Sugar, Chick-fil-A, & Orange + Title game.
It's not like you have be able to cure cancer or be a rocket surgeon to think this through.
It's not like you have be able to cure cancer or be a rocket surgeon to think this through.
#233
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I also think the committee releasing ranks is totally incorrect.
If they "start fresh" each week...why? NCAAB doesn't do it.
If they "start fresh" each week...why? NCAAB doesn't do it.
#234
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That was the whole point of why I posted the editorial on the last page. College football just can't seem to get on board with the logical process all other sports use...
#235
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Uhhh, I think I'll not do that. They're plenty aware of how tenuous a position as a starting QB at a major college program can be.
#237
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#238
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Uhhh no offense but I don't expect anything good from him this week. But then again I don't expect anything good from anybody on the A&M team. We will get destroyed by Auburn.
#239
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Website Alleges Jameis Winston Shaved Points in First Half of Louisville Game | FOX Sports
Link to the whole points shaving conspiracy: IBN Sports Wrap - Gambling Allegations Latest Trouble For Jameis Winston (Shaving Points To Help Friend?) by Incarcerated Bob
Link to the whole points shaving conspiracy: IBN Sports Wrap - Gambling Allegations Latest Trouble For Jameis Winston (Shaving Points To Help Friend?) by Incarcerated Bob
A gambling website has alleged that Jameis Winston shaved points in the first half of the Louisville game. The website alleges that Winston and a former high school teammate conspired to wager $5500 to win $5000 on a first half line of Louisville +1. The Seminoles trailed 21-7 at the half, winning Winston's high school teammate his wager.
According to the website it was the biggest bet that Winston's teammate had ever placed with the bookie.
Quoth the website:
"Bookie meets with Chris Rabb morning before Louisville / Fla St game and receives $5,500 from Mr Rabb with instructions to bet Louisville +1 (1st Half) -110 to win back $5,000. Bet was placed and Louisville won 1st Half vs Fla St (21-7). Mr Rabb is now suppose to receive $5,000 for winning bet + his $5,500 initial bet (square up day is Tuesday)
Bookie gets information late Sunday night that he's been "Played for a fool" as Mr Rabb and Jameis Winston are former teammates and conspired together on the above mentioned first half wager. Bookie wants no part of paying the debt. (i think he should pay he took the bet he knows the risk... just my opinion)
Bookie is claiming he has betting screenshots of the bet and proof it's Mr Rabb's account (look below for all bets placed last week)
Now does this mean we have a scandal on our hands? Does this mean Jameis Winston is gambling (crazier things have happened)?
This certainly all could be a coincidence that a former HS teammate and close family friend (Chris Rabb) made his biggest bet ever ($5,500) on game where his friend (Jameis) had probably his worst half ever in college... it's all just a coincidence right?"
...
*Update* As of 9:45 AM est.. IBN attempted to reach out to Chris Rabb via phone and someone did answer the cell phone, we asked if he had any comment on "alleged" gambling rumors that involved him and his former high school teammate Jameis Winston, his answer was brief "Fuck boy how did you get my number?.. mind your business boy" that's when the phone hung up."
This story is spreading across the Internet like crazy -- dozens of you have emailed and Tweeted it to Outkick -- and several major sites are investigating the allegations as I write this.
So do we believe this story? And do we trust this random website that hundreds of thousands of you are now reading and sharing online? Do we trust their documentation of bets and reporting when there's no basis to believe them other than the allegations they've written?
Winston's play in the first half against Louisville was atrocious, he threw two interceptions and completed less than half of his passes. It was among the worst halves of football he's played in his college career. If his high school buddy placed an uncharacteristically large wager on the first half line that's pretty suspicious, right? But on the other hand it seems incredibly stupid to undertake this much risk for $5k when Winston will make $5 million in a few months. Plus, the line was Louisville +1, why not keep the game closer on the offensive side of the ball? Hell, why not wager on a first half line in a game where the line wasn't even close and there's no risk of ever losing? Ultimately, I just don't believe it's possible that Jameis Winston could be this dumb. That's despite the fact that Winston has clearly made very dumb decisions before. There's no way Winston was shaving points, right?
Judging by the rapidity with which this story has spread throughout the Internet, is there anything that the average college football fan believes Jameis Winston wouldn't do? It says a lot about Winston's reputation that hundreds of thousands of you see this point-shaving story and immediately think, "Yeah, that sounds plausible."
What a mess.
According to the website it was the biggest bet that Winston's teammate had ever placed with the bookie.
Quoth the website:
"Bookie meets with Chris Rabb morning before Louisville / Fla St game and receives $5,500 from Mr Rabb with instructions to bet Louisville +1 (1st Half) -110 to win back $5,000. Bet was placed and Louisville won 1st Half vs Fla St (21-7). Mr Rabb is now suppose to receive $5,000 for winning bet + his $5,500 initial bet (square up day is Tuesday)
Bookie gets information late Sunday night that he's been "Played for a fool" as Mr Rabb and Jameis Winston are former teammates and conspired together on the above mentioned first half wager. Bookie wants no part of paying the debt. (i think he should pay he took the bet he knows the risk... just my opinion)
Bookie is claiming he has betting screenshots of the bet and proof it's Mr Rabb's account (look below for all bets placed last week)
Now does this mean we have a scandal on our hands? Does this mean Jameis Winston is gambling (crazier things have happened)?
This certainly all could be a coincidence that a former HS teammate and close family friend (Chris Rabb) made his biggest bet ever ($5,500) on game where his friend (Jameis) had probably his worst half ever in college... it's all just a coincidence right?"
...
*Update* As of 9:45 AM est.. IBN attempted to reach out to Chris Rabb via phone and someone did answer the cell phone, we asked if he had any comment on "alleged" gambling rumors that involved him and his former high school teammate Jameis Winston, his answer was brief "Fuck boy how did you get my number?.. mind your business boy" that's when the phone hung up."
This story is spreading across the Internet like crazy -- dozens of you have emailed and Tweeted it to Outkick -- and several major sites are investigating the allegations as I write this.
So do we believe this story? And do we trust this random website that hundreds of thousands of you are now reading and sharing online? Do we trust their documentation of bets and reporting when there's no basis to believe them other than the allegations they've written?
Winston's play in the first half against Louisville was atrocious, he threw two interceptions and completed less than half of his passes. It was among the worst halves of football he's played in his college career. If his high school buddy placed an uncharacteristically large wager on the first half line that's pretty suspicious, right? But on the other hand it seems incredibly stupid to undertake this much risk for $5k when Winston will make $5 million in a few months. Plus, the line was Louisville +1, why not keep the game closer on the offensive side of the ball? Hell, why not wager on a first half line in a game where the line wasn't even close and there's no risk of ever losing? Ultimately, I just don't believe it's possible that Jameis Winston could be this dumb. That's despite the fact that Winston has clearly made very dumb decisions before. There's no way Winston was shaving points, right?
Judging by the rapidity with which this story has spread throughout the Internet, is there anything that the average college football fan believes Jameis Winston wouldn't do? It says a lot about Winston's reputation that hundreds of thousands of you see this point-shaving story and immediately think, "Yeah, that sounds plausible."
What a mess.
#240
Senior Moderator
Chris Rabb != Chris Raab. Damn.