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Old 05-22-2013, 02:07 PM
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After some more thought/reasearch, I decided to not cancel my order for the Ingalls because I don't want the wheels to look like they are pointing in. Now I just need to find a good shop to install everything for a reasonable price.
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Well, you're doing it right either way, man. Was just trying to save you from waiting for no reason was all.

Here's the order.
Lower
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measure to see what size spacer you can fit based on the tires you're comfortable running.

That's it!
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Well, you're doing it right either way, man. Was just trying to save you from waiting for no reason was all.

Here's the order.
Lower
Adjust Camber
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measure to see what size spacer you can fit based on the tires you're comfortable running.

That's it!
Alright, thanks for the advice man. Hey, do you (or anybody else) know how to adjust the height setting on the Koni yellows? Supposedly there's a height adjustment (very minimal) that you can change BEFORE installing them. That's what i heard at least. I know how to adjust the dampening.
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^ you will have to move the snap ring (circlip-spelling?) down or up to the next groove on the shock shaft. I removed the paint in that groove prior to moving the clip into that groove, just to insure proper seating of that clip. Reason being, the spring seat cup is supported by that clip(ring). Flathead Screwdriver works pretty good to remove the paint in the groove, and can be used to pry that clip (ring) out of the groove its in now. Hope this makes sense/helps!
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^ you will have to move the snap ring (circlip-spelling?) down or up to the next groove on the shock shaft. I removed the paint in that groove prior to moving the clip into that groove, just to insure proper seating of that clip. Reason being, the spring seat cup is supported by that clip(ring). Flathead Screwdriver works pretty good to remove the paint in the groove, and can be used to pry that clip (ring) out of the groove its in now. Hope this makes sense/helps!
Ok, that helps a lot! Do most people put both the front and the rear on the lowest perch, or put the front on the lowest and leave the rear in the middle? I'll try searching around for other threads but figured I could ask here too.
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^its what you want that matters. Where the rings(clip) is now, will give you the drop the springs are rated for. I have the Koni SP3's with 5 perches front and rear. I put mine 2nd to lowest perch up front, and lowest perch in the rear. I believe the lowest perch is ~20mm lower than the original factory setting.

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^^ Wouldn't that make your front end stick up higher than the back though with the way your perches are set? That's what I'm afraid happening, so I'm considering putting the front to the lowest and leaving the rear in the middle. Will I rub with the front perch lower?


Also, I think it's probably safe to say winter is over, so today I took out my WeatherTech Digital Fit floor mats and put the factory ones in. I don't think I mentioned that I had the Digital Fit mats. Not really a "mod", but they are really sweet and fit perfectly. This was my first time EVER at a self service car wash, and I didn't even clean the car

Ooohhh... Look at that fitment




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I have Koni Yellows with Eibach springs, bought off friend before he sold his TL, he perched fronts lower cause he had manual transmission. Front looks lower, but its minimal. Roads ain't the best around here so gotta be slow in most areas not to rub but only.thing I.hit is scrap guard anywho so btw love the black roof, torn on that myself

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Frosty-my Koni's are just a little different than the sports that you have. I have an extra perch in between the lowest perch and the middle (factory Koni perch) as well as another 2 perches above the middle (factory perch). When I first installed them with the front and rear at the second to lowest perch, the rear was slightly (1/2") higher than the front. After dropping the rear perch to the lowest, it sits almost perfectly even, with the back maybe 1/4" higher than the front. I am not sure if you will rub on the lowest perch up front? I am riding on the stock 17" wheels.
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Originally Posted by DrOwNiNgPoOl84
I have Koni Yellows with Eibach springs, bought off friend before he sold his TL, he perched fronts lower cause he had manual transmission. Front looks lower, but its minimal. Roads ain't the best around here so gotta be slow in most areas not to rub but only.thing I.hit is scrap guard anywho so btw love the black roof, torn on that myself
Why did the manual transmission make a difference?

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Frosty-my Koni's are just a little different than the sports that you have. I have an extra perch in between the lowest perch and the middle (factory Koni perch) as well as another 2 perches above the middle (factory perch). When I first installed them with the front and rear at the second to lowest perch, the rear was slightly (1/2") higher than the front. After dropping the rear perch to the lowest, it sits almost perfectly even, with the back maybe 1/4" higher than the front. I am not sure if you will rub on the lowest perch up front? I am riding on the stock 17" wheels.
Oh ok. I just need to make sure they are set so that the car is even after they're installed. I'm having a shop do it so they would probably charge me to take them off and reinstall with a different perch setting.
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Why did the manual transmission make a difference?
It weighs less than the automatic transmission.
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It weighs less than the automatic transmission.
So should I leave both front and rear at the middle setting since mine is an automatic? Or both on the low setting?
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So should I leave both front and rear at the middle setting since mine is an automatic? Or both on the low setting?
I've never worked with Konis so I'm not sure
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I've never worked with Konis so I'm not sure
I talked to another member that has a 5AT w/ H&R sport springs and Koni Yellows and he said his are both on the middle setting and the front and rear sit even. He sent me pictures and they look even to me. So i think I will either keep them both on the middle setting like him, or put them both to the low setting. He said if i go to the low setting i may need to cut my bumpstops. The H&R directions don't tell me to do that, but should I since I might be lowering it more w/ the perch setting?
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^i did cut my Bumpstops, ~one nub on the bumpstop. If I was you, I would go to the lowest perch, and see how you like it! You can always raise it! Add ~a little under a 1/2" to the spring drop, and that's about where you will be on the lowest perch. Those of us 5AT's have heavier front end. Your front will be slightly lower than the rear.

Here is a thread with some info......disregard all the type-s bushing talk, as I don't believe you are installing those as well. ? It may give you more reference as too perch level, ?

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/help-koni-yellow-type-s-bushings-837206/
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^i did cut my Bumpstops, ~one nub on the bumpstop. If I was you, I would go to the lowest perch, and see how you like it! You can always raise it! Add ~a little under a 1/2" to the spring drop, and that's about where you will be on the lowest perch. Those of us 5AT's have heavier front end. Your front will be slightly lower than the rear.

Here is a thread with some info......disregard all the type-s bushing talk, as I don't believe you are installing those as well. ? It may give you more reference as too perch level, ?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837206
Ok, I think I'm gonna take 1" off of all my bump stops. I wanna try and find pictures of people with the H&R + Koni setup on the lowest perch. The guy I was talking to was on the middle perch and it looked great. Very minimal (if any) wheel gap. I think the wheels would be up inside the fender if i was on the lowest perch.

And yes, I read through that whole thread and there was some good info, thanks.
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Came back to see the progress!! shoot u ordered your camber kit lol I ordered.....0 things lol. btw you ever thought about buying black/cleared taillights to match your side markers and roof? I know im using your car as an experiment for my car lol. I got cleared headlights and I got the paint to paint my roof black just got to wait for my friend to have a day or two off so he can paint it. I do need the type s rear side markers to.
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Looks Good man, great job ! keep it up
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^^Funny you should say that. Look what just came in the mail today


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I have a few theories to why your username is Frosty.

1-You are pale like Frosty the Snowman.
2-You are constantly cold.
3-You are a cocaine dealer.
4-You are Young Jeezy, therefore automatically #3 as well.

So which one is it?

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Earlier today… 4x4-status






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Ehhhhhh, not so much slammed, but DAMN does it look good

Congrats sir
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Ehhhhhh, not so much slammed, but DAMN does it look good

Congrats sir
That's why it was in red silly

But thank you sir.
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That's why it was in red silly

But thank you sir.
It's past my bedtime
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It's past my bedtime
Likewise for me. Oh, and to answer your question, #1 and #4. White Young Jeezy.

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Congrats! Looks Great! I will assume you went lowest perch up front and middle perch rear?
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Congrats! Looks Great! I will assume you went lowest perch up front and middle perch rear?
Thanks! And no, it's on the lowest perch all the way around. Not sure why there's more gap in the rear, but it doesn't bother me enough to change it. Maybe because of the automatic transmission? Hopefully the rear will go down a bit once I put the rear seats back in, but I love it either way!
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Looking great, man...
Funny, Tyler has been waiting for YEARS to be able to say that to somebody.
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Looking great, man...
Funny, Tyler has been waiting for YEARS to be able to say that to somebody.
Jeezy like to drank. Jeezy like to smoke. Jeezy like to mix arm and hammer wit his coke.
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Car looks good. Which I-pod integration kit do you have?
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Jeezy like to drank. Jeezy like to smoke. Jeezy like to mix arm and hammer wit his coke.
Ew I'm not going to his house. That would taste funny and probably make it all fizzy.

OP, car looks good!! WDP powah! Your paint looks really good, too. I'm gathering all the supplies to give my WDP a proper claybar and wax treatment. You need to get an A-Spec kit on that thing, stat.
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^his paint does look good! WDP FTW!

Why are the pics upside down?

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Looking great, man...
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Keep up the good work looks good
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Which I-pod integration kit do you have?
Dice.



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OP, car looks good!! WDP powah! Your paint looks really good, too. I'm gathering all the supplies to give my WDP a proper claybar and wax treatment. You need to get an A-Spec kit on that thing, stat.
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^his paint does look good! WDP FTW!

Why are the pics upside down?
Thanks guys. I'm pretty sure the car has been repainted which is the main reason I'm hesitant to get the Aspec Kit.
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Please do the A-Spec kit, it changes the whole look of the car. You have WDP...the bumpers, body, and lip will never all match
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Please do the A-Spec kit, it changes the whole look of the car. You have WDP...the bumpers, body, and lip will never all match
Exactly!! Haha. I think it would drive me nuts
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