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Old 04-14-2014, 07:42 AM
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Not a big surprise. Unfortunately, it won't solve the problem that Ferrari has.
In the the short term I agree, but not in the long term (>1 year it will help). Domenicali was too nice and lacked Todt's passive aggressive personality which worked so well for him at Ferrari (not sure about his FIA gig). It's time for some serious accountability at Ferrari.


This is some thinking outside the box, he has no racing experience but then again neither did Briatore.

Meanwhile, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo announced that Marco Mattiacci, the head of Ferrari's American division, would replace Domenicali as team principal.

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Bob Bell to leave Mercedes at end of season

http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/154027.html

First Brawn now Bell, odd for the exit of the top two tech managers at MB within a half a year as the team is set to dominate 2014

Paddy Lowe must be like "I won the lottery and dating Miss April at the same time".
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Originally Posted by Legend2TL
http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/154027.html

First Brawn now Bell, odd for the exit of the top two tech managers at MB within a half a year as the team is set to dominate 2014

Paddy Lowe must be like "I won the lottery and dating Miss April at the same time".
Niki's plan to destroy Mercedes from within is gathering pace.
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Post Stefano Domenicali Quits Ferrari Team

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...nicali-resigns
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big Shock

RBR lose appeal

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...4/4/15721.html

suck it Marko ya arrogant prick
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Yeah, not a big surprise. Still doesn't address a fix for the problem though.l
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
RBR lose appeal

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...4/4/15721.html

suck it Marko ya arrogant prick
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Mercedes engine keeping Lewis Hamilton ahead of his rivals

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/26946444

Explains the "long shaft" turbo on the MB powerplant.
Very novel idea and concept that's working very well for them.

Kinda surprised how small the sidepods are of the 2014 cars, was expecting with the newly added intercoolers to be more bulky in the rear of the pods.

The 80's turbo cars has some really large radiators, typically 3 in each pod (intercooler, radiator, oil cooler) with ALOT of plumbing.
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check this out-bwhahahahaha

Lauda has obviously ruffled some feathers over @ RBR:

Total fuel damaging fuel sensor

The fuel supplied by French oil giant Total could be causing Red Bull's repeated problems with the mandatory fuel flow sensor in 2014.

It emerges that in qualifying in Shanghai, the reigning world champions struck trouble with the Gill-supplied device yet again.

To avoid a Melbourne-style disqualification, Red Bull reportedly adhered to an interim agreement reached with the governing FIA to revert to other measurements in the event of a sensor failure.

In the meantime, the search for the problem continues.

Speed Week correspondent Matthias Brunner has quoted the FIA's technical expert Fabrice Lom as explaining that the Total-supplied fuel is probably the culprit.

"On the sensor there is a seal that the chemical composition of the Total fuel could be damaging," Lom reportedly said.

"If this is happening, then the sensor would not work correctly."

Less clear, however, is why the Total fuel is damaging mainly Red Bull's sensors, rather than the ones used by the other three Renault-powered teams.

Meanwhile, it appears Red Bull is not ready to forgive rival Mercedes, after the German team called on the reigning world champions to be banned for three races for appealing Daniel Ricciardo's Melbourne disqualification.

Mercedes chairman Niki Lauda on Saturday made a peace-offering in the form of a Sachertorte, a famous recipe of Vienna chocolate cake.

But Red Bull's Dr Helmut Marko told Bild: "He thinks everything is over with a cake.

"I think the next time he wants to eat with us, he should put on a bulletproof vest."


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Kvyat is the new Ricciardo, who is the new Vettel, who is the new Webber.
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i miss him and that sound

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Ugh...McLaren lapped...LAPPED.


Reminds me of last year's Canadian Grand Prix (which I attended!). Disappointing.
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you going this year to the Canadian GP Mugen? I'll be there, dunno if West is going or not
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
Lauda has obviously ruffled some feathers over @ RBR:

Total fuel damaging fuel sensor

The fuel supplied by French oil giant Total could be causing Red Bull's repeated problems with the mandatory fuel flow sensor in 2014.

It emerges that in qualifying in Shanghai, the reigning world champions struck trouble with the Gill-supplied device yet again.

To avoid a Melbourne-style disqualification, Red Bull reportedly adhered to an interim agreement reached with the governing FIA to revert to other measurements in the event of a sensor failure.

In the meantime, the search for the problem continues.

Speed Week correspondent Matthias Brunner has quoted the FIA's technical expert Fabrice Lom as explaining that the Total-supplied fuel is probably the culprit.

"On the sensor there is a seal that the chemical composition of the Total fuel could be damaging," Lom reportedly said.

"If this is happening, then the sensor would not work correctly."

Less clear, however, is why the Total fuel is damaging mainly Red Bull's sensors, rather than the ones used by the other three Renault-powered teams.

Meanwhile, it appears Red Bull is not ready to forgive rival Mercedes, after the German team called on the reigning world champions to be banned for three races for appealing Daniel Ricciardo's Melbourne disqualification.

Mercedes chairman Niki Lauda on Saturday made a peace-offering in the form of a Sachertorte, a famous recipe of Vienna chocolate cake.

But Red Bull's Dr Helmut Marko told Bild: "He thinks everything is over with a cake.

"I think the next time he wants to eat with us, he should put on a bulletproof vest."


hahaha
LOL @ cake offering

Some of the Sky team basically said Mercedes is getting back at RBR for last year probably. RBR was the main team calling for harsh penalties over the secret test day fiasco involving Mercedes. Now the tables have turned and Mercedes didn't hesitate.
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you going this year to the Canadian GP Mugen? I'll be there, dunno if West is going or not
I might have to skip this year again unfortunately (I'll PM).

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good JPM interview.

+1, Montoya is a straight up driver however not so true with his IRS tax situation
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Mercedes continued its domination of the 2014 Formula One season with a one-two at the Chinese Grand Prix, which was shortened by two laps because of a blunder by the official charged with waving the flag at the end of the race.

The official waved the checkered flag a lap too early, causing Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton a moment of confusion before he pressed on to win his third consecutive race, and the third Chinese Grand Prix of his career.

“That was very strange. I was thinking, Am I seeing things? I was coming across the line expecting to do another lap and all of a sudden I looked for a split second and I saw the flag,” Hamilton said after the race. “I did lose a second or so. I asked the team, they said no, so I just kept going.”

Fortunately for Hamilton, the nearest driver — his Mercedes teammate Nico Rosberg — was 18 seconds behind, so the flag wave didn’t cost him.

If the checkered flag is waved early, the end of the race is taken as the lap before it is shown, according to F1 regulations. That meant Sunday’s Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai ended after 54 laps rather than the intended 56 laps.
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Based on these sentences then, I wonder if the finish order is going to be changed at all?

"If the checkered flag is waved early, the end of the race is taken as the lap before it is shown, according to F1 regulations. That meant Sunday’s Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai ended after 54 laps rather than the intended 56 laps."
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Based on these sentences then, I wonder if the finish order is going to be changed at all?

"If the checkered flag is waved early, the end of the race is taken as the lap before it is shown, according to F1 regulations. That meant Sunday’s Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai ended after 54 laps rather than the intended 56 laps."
The finishing order was changed for one position. Kobayashi passed someone on the last lap, so that order was reversed. Imagine the furor if Ricciardo managed to pass Alonso on the last lap.
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wouldn't that be poor Ricciardo's luck too F-C?? No one else heard Vettel tell the pit wall "Tough luck?" I'm surprised no one else mentioned it.
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4 races in, and I'm still not sure which is the proper spelling/pronunciation of Ricciardo's or Kyvat's name.
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"Ricardo and that Russian dude."
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4 races in, and I'm still not sure which is the proper spelling/pronunciation of Ricciardo's or Kyvat's name.
Sounds like: Kuh-vee-at from the commentators Kid's got talent. Don't think I could do what he's doing at 19.
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you going this year to the Canadian GP Mugen? I'll be there, dunno if West is going or not


I had planned on going this year with a few of my buddies, but it looks like that might not happen. I might be busy with a few things, one buddy doesn't want to come up from Virginia, and the third...well, the third would be at the Monaco GP the previous weekend...Said he might be too tired from traveling. SOB.


Haha. We might try to do Austin in November, though. Never been to COTA.
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Cakegate rofl

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4 races in, and I'm still not sure which is the proper spelling/pronunciation of Ricciardo's or Kyvat's name.
Everyone is still mispronouncing Magnussen's name. It's Mau-nu-sen.
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
Pics of the cake, or it didn't happen.
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Everyone is still mispronouncing Magnussen's name. It's Mau-nu-sen.
In all the years I watched his father then Kevin, I never heard that pronunciation.
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So it's pronounced Ric-car-do, and not Ric-iar-do?

And AB's been spelling that Russian dude's name as Kyvat, but I think I originally saw it as Kvyat.

Didn't know about Magnussen.
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Pics of the cake, or it didn't happen.
+1, doesn't sound like Lauda's sense of humor
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In all the years I watched his father then Kevin, I never heard that pronunciation.
I remember when Jan Magnussen first came to the US to race sports cars, he was interviewed on tv (NBC I think). The reporter asked him how exactly he pronounced his name, and that is what he said. Mau-nu-sen. The g is silent. He probably gave up by now. People have been mispronouncing Villeneuve for years. Even JPM changed his name to JM because it was too confusing for Americans.
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wouldn't that be poor Ricciardo's luck too F-C?? No one else heard Vettel tell the pit wall "Tough luck?" I'm surprised no one else mentioned it.
Yeah, the drama at RB is very interesting. With all the success of MB this season it's sorta easy to forget. Amazing that Vettel with 4 straight WDC's and 39 wins is struggling against his new junior teammate. If not for the Australian disqualification Ricciardo would be ahead on points.

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^^ at the end of last year, Alonso said something about Vettel possibly being the beneficiary of a great car and that the future would tell if he was a great driver in a great car or something less. Given how his team mate seems infinitely better this year in the same car, ya gotta kinda wonder. Then again, Webber had the same car and could do nothing. Who knows?
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^^ +1 sorta like the previous four years were RB cars that matched Vettel's more aggressive style perfectly. Now with the 2014 rules and new powertrains, it's become very apparent they don't suite Vettel's aggressive style. He has had tire wear issues that Ricciardo has been able to manage. The past two races have been embarrassing for Vettel, and proven Ricciardo have proven to be a worthy teammate.
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^^ +1, Sorta like the previous four years where RB cars matched Vettel's more aggressive style perfectly. Now with the new 2014 rules and powertrains, it's become apparent they don't suite Vettel. He's had tire wear issues that Ricciardo been able to manage. The past two races were embarrassing for Vettel, while Ricciardo's proven to be a worthy teammate.
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Horner said recently that Seb is very sensitive to his cars and this version doesn't allow him to drive in a manner conducive to saving his tires. I guess like Kimi, the brake by wire is catching them both out.
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Horner said recently that Seb is very sensitive to his cars and this version doesn't allow him to drive in a manner conducive to saving his tires. I guess like Kimi, the brake by wire is catching them both out.
Yup. The previous generation of RB cars were developed over time to suit Vettel's driving style, which culminated with the all conquering RB9. So it could be a setup issue, and the car just needs to be tuned to suit his style. Also, my recollection during pre-season testing was that even with the reduced number of laps that Red Bull ran, due to the teething problems, it was mostly Ricciardo doing the testing. Maybe Vettel should have stayed at the track more, even with the reduced number of laps available.
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Hot off the wire:

Red Bull is investigating whether a fault in his chassis is causing Sebastian Vettel's 2014 trough.

Team boss Christian Horner says the reigning quadruple world champion is lacking the "feel" for the RB10, while others think the German is simply being outclassed by his new teammate Daniel Ricciardo.

Dr Helmut Marko, the champion of Vettel's career since his boyhood, has some other theories.

"When downshifting, Sebastian needs a stable rear for his special style of driving. With all the new systems, he doesn't have that yet," the Red Bull director said.

Austrian Marko tipped Vettel to eventually get it right.

"In 2012 it was the same, and by the time he was happy with the rear, he was unbeatable," he is quoted by Germany's Sport Bild.

However, there could be more to the story.

"We don't understand why Vettel's tyre wear was so much higher than Ricciardo's," Marko said, referring to the Chinese grand prix.

"We are now investigating whether his (Vettel's) chassis has a fault."

Marko said Red Bull's target is to eliminate a chassis flaw as the potential origin of the problem by giving the 26-year-old a brand new 'Suzie'.

"When a new one is ready, Vettel will get it," he confirmed.

If a chassis flaw is not the problem, however, Marko is not guaranteeing a quick fix to Vettel's troubles.

"This year is so complex that even the engineers don't understand everything," he said. "That makes it even harder for Seb to tune the car to his needs.

"But Sebastian is a perfectionist. He will tinker with it until he gets it right."
Doesn't say when the new car will be ready though.


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