deandorsey

4.9sec 0-60 shit!


man cars are getting fast

F23A4

I am eager to see a more in depth road test of the 335i coupe.

Between the E92 335i coupe and the remaining E46 M3s, BMW 3-series coupe buyers have two terrific options to choose from. (NOTE: I am still a bit partial to the M3 though, I do like the 335i's torque band: 300lb-ft from 1400-5000rpm )

biker

Don't forget the 335 sedan for less money and same benefits.

oem tsx

anyone else waiting for evo X?

evo x? 320hp 300ftlbs 2liter i-4 1 turbo engine awd 3200lbs $35k?
335i? 300hp 300ftlbs 3 liter i-6 2 turbo engine rwd 3600lbs $45k?

once again, that $10k+ is just for the badge

phile

I know, just a few years ago breaking the 7 second barrier in a mass produced car seemed like a feat. Now it's the standard for most V6 cars.

oem tsx

but the 335i is like a reincarnation of the 1992 toyota supra, nissan fairlady, mazda rx 7, and mitsu 3000gt 325hp twin turbo era. same inline 6 3 liter twin turbo engines making the same 300/300 figures with the same rwd. but this is 2007 soon.... you can buy a twin turbo 1992 supra with more hp than the 335i for $5k? 15 years have passed since twin turbo 3.0 liters I6 engines made 300hps?

Mokos23

Come on we all know that a helicopter can go 0-60 in 2-3 secs.

Crazy Bimmer

you really are a moron.

oem tsx

i dont understand why so many people here are so excited and crazy about a 3l i6 twin turbo making 300/300? you guys dont remember the 1992 supras, 300zx, 3000gts, rx-7, and nissan skylines? some of those production cars safetly boost their hp to 500+ in the 1990's. i think mitsu's evo x 4 banger with 300+ hp and nissan's next g35 with a 3 or 3.5 liter turbo making 500hp is more impressive.

oem tsx

dude, go back to vwortex

or better yet, just stay in a bmw forum

dom

Apples and Zuccinni.

Crazy Bimmer

Next you will start comparing a m3 to a SRT-4

oem tsx

LOL SRT-4.... i have some good memories with that car... i went to a drag race where one of them dropped the tranny in the middle of the track and had to be towed

Crazy Bimmer

Yea but thats ok, you save over 10k by getting that instead of an Evo.

You would have money left over to fix it and make it even faster than an evo.

oem tsx

and have it blow up on the track?

Crazy Bimmer

You know how much those cars costed when they came out in the 90s?

Just imagine how must they would cost in 2007.

gavriil

Yeap. Like I said, GM may think about adding another 30 to the Vette. LOL.

gavriil

Guys, let's please try to avoid the personal attacks. Not agreeing on automotive issues is nothing wrong or new, just no personal attacks. Calling people name is as such.

Nakamichi

Don't forget the EVO special edition in UK was coming out of the showroom w/ 400+ hp.

F23A4

That was one of the reasons for their demise. The 300ZX TT (Z32) stickered at $45k back in 1996. (Discounting inflation, that $45k is thousands more than the current MSRP on a loaded 2006 350Z (Grand Touring w/Navi) which is ~$39k.) If one adjusts for inflation, that Z32 TT would cost $54,600 in today's dollars.

Back on topic: given the N54's torque band (read:area under curve), I am fairly confident that the N54 > VG30DETT/2JZGTE/6G72T (stock) when it comes to power delivery. NOTE: Of all these, I only recall the Stealth R/T Turbo (6G72T) as being able to post a sub-5 0-60 time in mags (Road & Track?). I imagine AWD had a part to play in that though.

Infamous425

seeing how there was one guy who was banned for making comments not nearly as retarded as this current guy i dont think its a matter of disagreeing

av6ent

Hehehe. I stated on page 36 that this E92 335i will match current M3 numbers and here they are very, very close. And I'm sure people will post low 13s some day. I found a new car for me in a year or so .

gavriil

People dont get banned for making retarted comments, unless if they harm the forum or another member. Personal attacks will get one banned though if abused.

Beltfed

Well it was more or less obvious from the start that performance would come very close to the E46 M3.

No different than with the E46 330 ZHP compared to the E36 M3. The ZHP being a few ticks off, but real close.

Crazy Bimmer

I was thinking that but the ZHP didnt come out till 03 where the last E36 m3 was 99.

The E46 m3 dead body is hardly cold and this 335 is already out being close to its performance. Guess BMW is actually feeling the heat from the other makers?

Beltfed

Exactly, time frame is certainly closer this time around.......due in part mainly to competitors coming out with some worthy vehicles.

oem tsx

stealth r/t turbo = mitsubishi 3000gt.... DANG!!! is everyone on this forum like 5 years old?

TheAcAvenger

I would agree that the N54 is greater, but i'd still take the 2jzgte engine any day of the week. Lets face it, that iron block was TOUGH!

Seeing that I'm planning on getting a 335, i'd like to personally say thank you to Lexus's IS350, Infiniti's G35, and Audi's S4 and RS4 for forcing BMW into cars that arent just fast in the twisties but also in the straightaways and highways that define this country.

F23A4

While the styling directions differed, yes the Stealth R/T Turbo and Mitsubishi GTO (aka USDM 3000GT VR4) were mechanically identical. The sub-5 0-60mph time reference I posted regards the published quickest time of the group. Hence, the 'in mags' reference clearly (or not so clearly in this case) infers what was published.

F23A4

Indeed, the 2JZGTE is definitely a standout motor. With modifications, astronomical levels of power seem to readily attainable. (Although one could speak similarly about the RB26DETT.)

TheAcAvenger

How could i forget the RB26DETT? It is superstellar. Judging by your avatar you must be a fan. All this engine worshipping reminds me of a conversation that my friend and I had the other day about naming engines, and we find it quite insane that nissan, toyota, and mitsubishi both find it necessary to have 6-9 characters to name an engine, when I can name a honda engine with just 3. Geesh.

F23A4

....what is probably scarier to your non-car enthusiast friends is that you (like my son and I) could probably name all of the above in your sleep complete with chassis applications. (My wife gives me a when I sometimes refer to my 02 Maxima as an 'VQ35DE powered A33'....I suppose just stating '02 Max' is easier but where's the fun in that?)

But true, it is fairly clear as to what one is talking about by just stating 'H22' or 'B16' (although a '1' or '5' suffix might be needed when discussing the B18 and 'A2', 'A3' or 'Z3' with the K20 ).

If Honda would have followed Nissan, Toyota and Mitsu's lead, we might have had a C32ATT in the NSX.

biker

All of this talk of alphabet soup of chassis and engines makes one sound like a geek. Sheesh.

Biker, who had thoughts of getting a 3000GT.

FlyingPig

Guys, focus!
Let's dig up more stuff on the 3 series coupe instead of talking about 3000GT:-D

SiGGy

How do you know you can't turn the boost up on the BMW? It's not like 2 weeks after the 1st Supra came out people had the BPU stuff figured out

SiGGy

You certainly seem to lean towards that age group by reading some of your posts... Are posts like this the only way you can get your point across? And umm who sounds like they are 5?

Back on topic!

gavriil

Video below

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/09/...-on-the-track/

subtledreamer

sounds good too bad the clip is so short. im assuming they used some sort of directional microphone that picks up sound from a distant.

stangg172004

its not loading!

subtledreamer

have you updated your flash player to 9? might not be NEEDED but doesnt hurt to check...