Xue Zheng

What’s the difference between sport model manual vs type s manual , is it just the bell housing(clutch housing) does the internal the same ? anyone did the swap?

horseshoez

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The transmissions are identical; the bellhousings (and I believe flywheels and starters) are different. Why would you want to do a swap?

Xue Zheng

I picked up a sport tran for around 500 bucks, so it worth a try , other than spending 1500+ on a used tran

horseshoez

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I'm not sure what you're saying, all of the 6-Speed manual transmissions for the entire line of 3G TLs are identical.

Xue Zheng

04-06 are sport model manual and only 07-08 type s has option for manual. yes, i searched up part numbers , i believe 3rd 5th gear has different part number

horseshoez

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It is the same transmission.

teh CL

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The trans aren't identical internally. The 07/08 Type S 6MT shares some similarities with the older trans but it was beefed up for the most part for the 3.5 upgrade.

horseshoez

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Are you sure, or were the differences simply to help correct for the 3rd gear issues?

1black_seven

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The gear ratios and final drive are the exact same.

oraclem20

There were changes in multiple parts of the transmission. There were changes in the bellhousing, fluid passages, and more minute changes.
The 07-08 trans IS DIFFERENT both in bellhousing and reliability and clutch fitment from the 04-06 manual.

However, if you swap the 07 MT in, what you'll "gain" is a cheaper clutch (can't explain this one), more reliability, possibly a fix for the 3rd gear issue, and a bellhousing that is more updated and compatible with newer blocks IIRC.
That being said, swap for the engine, not the transmission.

horseshoez

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If you look at my earlier posts I already called out the bellhousing, flywheel (the clutch is the same), and starter.

As for the fluid passages, do you have any documentation which supports different fluid passages (something I totally get for an automatic transmission, but not for a manual)?

teh CL

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Not sure really why the changes were made but just quickly going through the parts breakdown shows more than a few part numbers that are different..

WDPanda

Manual transmissions have fluid passages? I thought that was an automatic thing.

horseshoez

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You are correct, virtually all manual transmissions have no such a thing fluid passages.

Xue Zheng

So are they swap able? type s tran are bad, and plan to swap in a 04-06 manual in (internal)

horseshoez

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As has been stated several times, the transmissions are 100% interchangeable; the bellhousings, flywheel, and starter are not.

Xue Zheng

i took apart the 2 transmission and the input shaft will not come out , the inputshaft hit the bell housing

Xue Zheng

it will hitting the snout