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Old 11-27-2006, 07:29 PM
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So last night I was coming near an 90 degree turn and slowed down but obviosuly not enough because road was full of ICE.

In that split second I thought about it and instead of going over the curb and risking front bumper and airbag deployment, I manged to take hit on front right wheel at an near zeero AOA(angle of attack) to curb.

Car got undrivable as it started making metalic scraping noise and now I'm waiting for dealer to open on Tuesday.

What could be damaged and what should I expect? Is it going to be bent wheel, new tire, drive shaft or suspension? could roter be bent?
This is so funny (not really but listen) I did the EXACT SAME thing 2 years ago. If I was going to post about it I would post your post word for word to a T. OK the bad news. It bent my wheel, jammed my axle, broke my suspension and 1 month down the road my tranny went out to top it all off. I think it jammed something into the tranny. Let me guess. Your car will try to go but its like the wheel is stuck in place and sliding. Yes I thought it would be better to let the wheel take the hit than messing up the bumper and quarter panel. Boy was I wrong. Good luck but your car will never handle or drive the same again. Its the worst.
Old 11-27-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Actuary
Here are more information
1. metalic scrape occurs in a pattern (almost sound like once per revolution of wheel)
2. I checked steering and both tires steer fine.
3. I checked doors and hood for any gap changes. Only thing I noticed is bumper on right side has bigger gap. Other panels are fine
4. No oil leakage of any kind
5. No VSA or ABS check light on


Should I get this done at Acura or save some money by going to other shop?
Yep mine too. You start to go and scrape,scrape,scrape. Your wheel is bent and so is the suspension and most likely the axle. Mine was and did the same exact thing. I was going 25 mph also. Damn ice blows. It was also on my birthday. You axle is prob jammed into the engine cradle, mine was bent and had to be replaced. I hope not but prob. This is very weird to see this post. Almost like Deja Vu.
Old 11-28-2006, 01:34 PM
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I'm scared to go home right now. It's 6:20PM and temperature is -10F and it is ice everywhere. In the meantime I'm trying to order winter rubber.

Do you think I can put studded tires on and off few times over the winter? Because My area will get "Ice&snow" for a week and then dry pavement next week. Would it be too much for lug nuts to handle that kind of stress?

No,,
Just torque them appropriately each time.
Old 12-02-2006, 05:32 PM
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After long meditation and juggling, I decided to go with non-studded, studdable rubber. My final contenters are Kumho KW-17 and Goodyear Nordic. It won't be as good as micro traction compound(eg: Toyo Observe, Michelin X-ice, Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice) but is about $200 cheaper in a set.
Old 12-15-2006, 03:57 PM
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So this hitting curb incident is almost coming to an end. I got my subframe replaced today and got the car back all excited - Well my air bag light came on right after I got into the car.

The shop sent me to Acura dealer two blocks away and they checked my car. It turns out to be broken reel wire inside steering wheel.

Right now I got no Cruise control, no front airbag and no audio control. Not sure about handsfree and navi.

Frame was $1250 and I paid 8.5 hours labor. Total cost of this incident is nearing 4500 so far.
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I did the SAME exact thing with me, drove the car saw the wheel wobbled, what I did was replaced the rear right tire with the front right tire. Saw that the bumpy driving and wobbling wheel was eliminated in the front which led me to conclude no suspension, axle, bearing or damage of that sort in the front and that in fact the rim was bent, seeing as the rear right wheel which was the one I hit was wobbling and causing and uneven drive. I will say however the wheel alignment is really screwed up, the steering wheel is one 1/4 of a turn to the right and the car is going straight will show you what I mean soon.
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Best bet is to buy a new rim from another dealer, and then bring your car to the dealer and be like what happened to my car, they shouldnt expect it was your fault if they see no damage to the rim.
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But with me I cut the wheel all the way to the left and hit the right front wheel at about 20mph with my foot on the breaks, the tires skid into the curb. Luckily I didn't hit the telephone pole.
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I did the same exact thing, but I am replacing the wheel and getting a wheel alignment. When I drove the car back home I noticed when I was driving it felt like I was going over a constant bump, but I replaced the rear right wheel with the front right wheel and saw that this was eliminated, suspension seems fine turning doesn't seem to be an issue, insofar as what I can tell I only bent the rim. Once I recieve the new rim and get the wheels aligned I will drive to the dealer for my regularly scheduled service and see if they make mention of anything.
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Well, as long as car drives fine u dont really have to do anything. Mine was pullting all the way and I had to replace subframe.
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I sent the rim to the dealer, they should fix it, I purchased the $400 "Master Shield" that repairs small dents, cracked windows, and wheels and tires, if they end up fixing my rim, this $400 warranty would be well worth it.

Once I get my wheel alignment I will see how the car is, I was driving the car very slowly, but as far as what I could tell the car doesn't tug, until then I won't know because I'm not going to drive the car until the wheel is fixed, driving on spares .
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Once I start driving the car to see how it reacts with four good wheels and a wheel alignment I will then know if I really screwed something up.
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Rim fixed, and wheels aligned but hearing a metallic scrapping noise, should I get the car towed to the dealer?
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Originally Posted by jackasswhy
hey im not trying to be mean here. but once damage like that is done to the suspension it really is never the same.
I drove a '94 accord that was rebuilt from salvage (right side of the car demolished) and it drives just as good as a car. My friend has the car with over 160K on it........

I drive a CL and my next car will be TL (05 or 06).
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
Rim fixed, and wheels aligned but hearing a metallic scrapping noise, should I get the car towed to the dealer?

Wheel bearing I thinK?... u could get towed since it's free under roadside assistance.
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
I drove a '94 accord that was rebuilt from salvage (right side of the car demolished) and it drives just as good as a car. My friend has the car with over 160K on it........

I drive a CL and my next car will be TL (05 or 06).

For the record, my car drives perfect in fact I do not notice any type of pulling or anything wrong. Alignment result confirms it. I posted it somewhere.
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this is alignment I got
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ghlight=hunter



This was my problem right after subframe replacement
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=kicks
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When I went to the wheel alignment place, they told me my camber and toe were way off they fixed the toe but not the camber, I'll take it to the dealer and see what happens.
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The toe was at -.20, when it should be between -.08 and .08, so yeah hopefully the dealer will help me out, free of charge, I mean the rim and tire were free.
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-.20 isnt bad, mine was at -.92. making 2 degree difference on "total toe"

something must be bent with camber problem though.
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It's off by like .2 if I remember right, I have the sheet at home I'll refrence it on friday when I go to the dealer.
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And there was another thing that was off but I forget what it was called, it had something to do with the suspension.
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Might get a second check on the components.

Story...

I had a Honda Civic SI and did the same exact thing only months after my purchase. It was snowing and the car slid in to a curb. About the same damage. Had to have the frame pulled and parts replaced. The frame was never the same, but I have a good part to this story.

Several years after the original repairs a different shop working on my drive lines noticed a crack in another suspension part. Unfortunatly the place where I originally got the work done was out of business and may have missed the broken part.

Basicly what I am trying to say is with this kind of damage I'd recomend trying another shop and have them inspect the parts for a 2nd opinion. In suspensions there are many parts. They may have a different suggestion or even could locate a different problem.

Another thing I learned...

My Honda was not quite the same, however... after several alignments, which never seem to feel right, and replacing the missed broken part I decided to take my car to a high-end shop that had a very high quality alignment rack (I don't recall which, just know they said it was state of the art... sorry, but it was done here... Park Place Ltd. ). BOY what a difference that made it really felt like a new car as I have been driving it slightly screwed up for several years.

After that experience I learned that I had to take the car to the high-end shop and use the nice rack for alignments because all the other shops just could not dial-in the right adjustments to componsate for the still slightly screwed up suspension. If I didn't the car would pull and steer right easier then left.
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I went to place with hunter 600 DSP machine for my allignments.

and I did have to replace the subframe. I pulled it first, car wasn't the same even though they pulled it close enough to factory spec.

So if you replace parts properly then u will be fine
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Caster is at .5 and Camber at .7, dealer suggests I need a new front right control arm so far, their wheel alignment will tell them what else is wrong.

Cost of alignment was 120$ initial charge, I need to find another Acura dealer that isn't as over priced, we paid 34,000MSRP on a base TL and leased it.
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Dealer says as far as they can tell I only need a front right control arm, and it will take 3 hours of labor. They said until they get to work on the right control arm they won't be sure if I need anything else, I think it's just a ploy to get me to pay for more hours of labor if they had the car on the lift and did an alignment wouldn't you figure they know exactly what kind of repair the car needs.
If I pay to replace one part and then I actually need another part also, I'll end up paying for extra hours of labor. I'm going to another dealer to see what they say, I'll pick up the car on Monday to see what's up.
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Right control arm replaced, now the caster is at 1.9 on the right side and total caster is 1.4, now they'll take it to a body shop and the guy will check it out for free to see if we have sub frame damage because the car is still not to spec. They're suggesting that the subframe is bent and it will need to be pulled, I'm just curious how my toe is 2.20 and yours was -.92 after we did the same exact thing, what does that mean exactly? Did I do more damage, because I didn't have to replace anything but the control arm so far.
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