MyKL

As I know we made the first Turbo Legend (RL 2gen) in Russia and maybe even in the world

We didn't open the engine and didn't modify transmission and suspension.
The target HP was 350 at flywheel.
So I decided to install turbo from Mitsubishi EVO9 TD05HR-16G6C-10.5T
Also U-Power.ru installed custom intercooler, custom intake box with zero filter, custom downpipes and turbo exhaust, custom two additional fuel rail with Siemens 20375 injectors, sparks Denso VK22PR-Z11, bypass valve Turbosmart, boost 3-port solenoid, actuator Kinugava 0.45 bar (6.5psi).
AEM wifi + 2 EGT
All that was tunned by R2Racing via UniChipQ+ Driver for management additional fuel injectors And Modified Orig ECU

366HP at graph are not the last because then we tunned car on the road. At one moment we got 393HP but I asked to reduce it.

The stock dyno was 240HP on the same dynomachine.

So I get 120HP extra

HEAVY_RL

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Congrats... stick around, I'm sure there will be a lot of questions.

IntactACK

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Awesome man, kudos to you!

oo7spy

oo7spy

We have never seen an RL even come close to 240 HP. AWD dynos consistently come in around 205-210, and disengaging the prop-shaft for FWD reads ~220.

I wonder if the Legend is tuned differently whether that be in the gears, ecu, or elsewhere. I'm sure it's also possible that the dyno readings here don't match US dynos for whatever reason besides metric-vs-imperial (240 PS = 236 HP). I just don't want people thinking their stock RL runs 240 whp.

Regardless of that, 125 HP extra is amazing and should be commended. Also, 340+ ft*lb of torque...

EL19

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The 3.5 in my Accord put down over 240whp stock (granted that was in a FWD manual vehicle) and I've seen 3.5 TLS's put down similar numbers stock. I'm sure the RL motor has close to the same amount of power. I bet the RL reduces power once the driveshaft is disconnected resulting in the other people's dynos coming in so low. 220fwhp is a little on the low side for a Honda 3.5 tuned on 93. However, looking at his RL on the dyno it appears they are only running the front wheels, so who knows. There are so many variables to consider when doing dyno runs

The AWD dyno numbers at ~210awhp make more sense to me. Nonetheless good to see someone making some power with the RL.

princelybug

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Wow!

MyKL

I speak English not so good. And some moments cause the not understanding.

So, that dyno shows less than Driveshaft HP and more than wheel HP. It measures Only front wheel. As I know all wheel dyno shows more HP than single dyno. Anyway the difference is much more important for me )))

HEAVY_RL

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Its translating fine, if something isnt clear just ask.

Echoe53

wow, congrats!

In for video, as I'm sure everyone else is.

titomang

That's nice man. In for videos and pix of the build. Also just curious what 1/4 mile is if you did run it at the track.

Iakonafuji

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I know that another member on AZine has a turbo'd J-series engine in their CL, but it's great to see one done in a KB1 RL. This exciting news gives me another option for what to do with the KB2. Thanks for contributing your info so far!

coopcoop30

Ahhhh yes please

MyKL

I have two videos when my car was under construction.
So you will see all parts (elements).
There are winter in Russia, and winter wheel, so it's not comfortable to do time attack drags.

ichi d

wowsers!

Chino-son

damn she must be a blast to drive now with all that extra power..congrats bro!

mixwell

awesome! what did you use for tuning...?

Chans

Great post! I was beginning to think this wasn't possible for us.

Rasjgo1

Wicked!!!!

yungone501

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WOWSERS!

I've waited a looking time to see one if these. I'm in for tuning on this one. I've always wondered if I were to buy one, could I make it work using the 5AT TL-S j35a8 ECM.

Looks great.

Mr.RL

do you have any pics of the build itself I'm curious as to how it was stuffed in there was thinking of doing something similar

MyKL

Now all who want to build turbo RL can take it as example

MyKL

Now we work under perfect ECU tuning (more efficient, less consumption, less EGT, zero knock)

MyKL

I think it's not possible to use TL-S because it doesn't work with SH-AWD.
Hondata and R2Racing tech told me that.
But you can take a risk and try )))

MyKL

any questions ?

yungone501

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Videos would not work for me.

Actually, the ECM doesn't control the SH-AWD feature of the RL, the RL has a separate module for that which is on the CAN network and gathers only sensor data from the ECM such as TPS, VSS (speed), etc. The SH-AWD module also obtains other data from other modules elsewhere and is basically an interpreter of this info to operate the AWD system.

So in short, I'm reluctant to believe that it the TL-S j35a8 ECM doesn't share (and won't share) the same exact information as the RL j35a8 ECM that's required by the RL's SH-AWD control module to function properly across the CAN network.

yungone501

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Double post

MyKL

You can click on the link and watch video on youtube site.

I agree with all what you say about shawd. Maybe I didn't understand you but I sad the same idea - that it wouldn't work.

yungone501

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No sir, I'm saying that (IMO) it WILL WORK.

Knowing how these cars work from electrical standpoint, I see no reason for it NOT to work. The ECM's are practically the exact same. Even down to programming parameters and software versions. The only difference that I could see was a circuit inside the RL ecm that was related to running a RFM (Radiator Fan Module) of which allows the RL to have complete control over the radiator cooling fan motors as opposed to the TL-S only having dual fan speeds...each speed being controlled with its own relay.

MyKL

Maybe, you can try))
But why hondata can't offer for us flash pro ? And for new TL with SHAWD?

yungone501

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The 4g AWD TL is a completely different ECM and although is considered a programmable module, I'm not aware that anyone has received permission/rights to modify the parameters yet. That usually comes either with enough $$$ or enough time to for the newness to wear off the car itself.

The RL ECM however is a something I don't understand and quite honestly you make a great point. Hondata uses VINs to identify its compatibility (as well as software security) with the ECM it's modifying. It could be as easy as inputting a TL-S VIN into the RL's ECM prior to using Hondata. Of course this requires using an HDS (or comparable) scan tool/interface to change the VIN. This is also must be done in the vehicles immobilizer.

Ironwoodauto

This is awesome!
Has anyone else had any experience with this UniChipQ+? It would be interesting to see if the unichip+ would give us gains with minor mods.

MyKL

UniChip - just piggyback. In my case it manage only fuel and fake crackshaft data. The ignition is managed by reprogrammed orig. ECU.
For example r2racing did MDX on the reprogrammed orig ECU
http://www.r2racing.ru/tuned_by_r2r/...acura-mdx.html

yungone501

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Reprogrammed with what?

What about knock control, are you running anything for this?

What's "fake" crank data? Do you mean manipulated or intercepted crank data?

The RL is great and all but I'm really beginning to question the tuning now. You can make just about any car run more fuel (for boost compensation) but if not done correctly and accurately, it will be at the engines expense. Especially if the engine has to depend on a piggyback controller. Is the car being tuned with a wideband or EGT atleast?

MyKL

I don't know how to say it in English.....
Open orig ECU, unchip (take off, take out) microchip, download flash, find charts, correct ignition and VTEC, upload to microchip, insert into the car )))

It's all good with knock because R2Racing tech used pro special equipments. But the detonation was the main restriction for boost! The J35A8 Head is the worse of what you can imagine

yes

What do you mean: correctly and accurately? I show the dyno

Of course))))
how without it?
And now I use "AEM wifi UEGO + 2 EGT" just to control that all are right.

MyKL

Of course, it would be better to use a TL ECU + Flash Pro, but at the moment there are no examples and no one did even piggyback like me on RL

MyKL

The explanation of the specialist

Sandro

If one is worried about detonation its best to go with forged pistons with lower compression ratio, its really worth it

MyKL

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Türk

Hey there.

I want to install DRL to my car like yours.

See the thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-rl-2005-2012-76/where-put-drls-903320/

Can you give some comments on that thread?
What kind of system do you have? How are they activated else.

Kind regards,

Türk