hand-filer

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That's some good stuff you're smoking.

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

Ahhh...aren't you having fun yet?? Smoking....nahhh....gave up cigs long ago...and as for the other...never did. Makes your brain fuzzy...mine is perfectly clear. How's your stash? Colorado is "going up in smoke" now...as is Washington. Oh, you're closer to Wash.


I figure...when you are agreeing with someone that has their facts wrong..such as '12 RDX shocks fit the 2nd Gen etc, I think you both are smoking something...'cause you sure aren't thinkin' straight. Facts....Maaam...just the facts!!!

rosen39

Hand-filer, that "good stuff" is legal in Colorado.

Hey, I did my homework. Now I have quiet rear shocks!!

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

Yeah...legal....but, for how long?! Problems in "joint land!" Things will change. I get high on life....don't need the "stuff."


Quiet...and stiff...and rigged for your 2nd Gen. NOT made for it. You are compromising...fine. When KBY or someone else makes THE shock for the 2nd Gen...then you can put on the correct shock for your application. Oh, what a concept.

Joe Las Vegas

Kyb for first gen will fit second gen, how many times does it need to be confirmed/said?

joebxr

...and a stiffer ride. You've modified the overall design of the vehicle's suspension system...did you do your homework to understand what collateral impact it may have? NAH....I'll stick with pestering Acura!

rosen39

So you are saying all first generation RDX's have stiff rear suspensions? Have you even driven an RDX with KYB's on them? I doubt it. The "stiff ride" comment is waaaaaaay overblown.

joebxr

I've clearly stated my opinions and you obviously justify your position. Best of luck.


PS - Have you checked mount points between 1st and 2nd gen and also different years of 2nd gen and even 2016? HINT...some changes!!!!

rosen39

1st and 2nd generation use same lower control arm. Upper mount is part of the body.....it works. So when you are on your 8th set of replacement, genuine OEM Acura rear shocks, let us know how the car rides.

rosen39

OK guys.........we have beat this subject to death, and have had a lot of laughs doing it.

I have come up with a "Top 10" list of reasons to bring you car into the Acura dealer for new shocks.

10. Shocks were dirty anyway........needed changing.
9. Get to know the service writers on a first-name basis.
8. Have been praying to get one of those new "revised" quiet shocks.
7. Free car wash and vacuum.
6. Get to drive a new loaner that does not "clunk" in the back.
5. Forum members swore this is the way to go.
4. Test out route to dealer programmed under Navigation "favorites".
3. Building up service records for my next CARFAX report.
2. Hope car falls off lift so I can get a new one.
1. FREE COFFEE!!

joebxr

OK, I've come up with another good reason for taking your RDX to the dealer versus using the 1st gen KYB's....as replied to today by KYB TECH SUPPORT:


Here's what I asked:
I have a 2015 RDX and have had rear shocks replaced several times because of "clunking" that occurs....sounds like shock bottoming out. Was looking to replace them with KYB's but find you don't offer replacements for 2nd generation RDX (i.e. 2013 and up). Some people I've spoken with have used the 1st gen version you offer, but I am not sure that is the right solution. Can you provide some guidance on this, please, and do you intend to offer a version for 2nd gen?
Thanks


Here's the reply:

"Sorry, from our data the 1st gen isn’t a proper fit for the 2nd gen.
Regards,
Technical Support
KYB Americas Corporation
techsupport@kyb.com"

rbreeze

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

Reallly...guess you must be the expert huh?? NOT!!


READ the reply DIRECTLY from KYB...the 1st Gen shocks DO NOT fit or are meant for the 2nd Gen. PERIOD!


What part of that do you not understand???


Man...some people don't give up when the truth is smack dab in front of them.


Give it up...Say.."I was wrong..sorry"


I can do that when warranted....obviously you can't.

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

My research is pretty much done on the '16's shocks, suspension etc.


The rear shocks, front shocks, front and rear springs are ALL NEW. New part #'s....been replaced. Confirmed by Service/Parts Director at my dealer, and my personal look up of Acura part #'s also confirms this.


NO...they did not change rear shocks on the '15's or the previous 2 model yrs.


Buy a '16 and enjoy all the new upgrades!!

johnrh

you guys have too much free time on your hands

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

And the problem with that is???


Worked since I was just a kid...now, retired early...I do what I want, when I want, how I want....and take no prisoners.

joebxr

My email to KYB:
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 3:34 PM
To: Tech Support
Subject: Re: Acura RDX
I have read where people have used the 1st gen on their 2nd gen and state it fits.
Can you tell me why KYB does not feel the 1st gen is a proper fit and the risks of using the 1st gen as a replacement.
Thanks for your help.

KYB email reply:
On 6/1/2015 8:34 AM, Tech Support wrote:

hand-filer

Respond back to them and ask them why they didn't include the 2013 RDX.

joebxr

Yah, and I'll ask why they put the apostrophe AFTER the 14 and 15 instead of before!

sharkwaters

USE LITHIUM GREASE ON ALL BUSHING AND UNDERCARRIAGE CONNECTION POINTS.....BOOM! Peace and quiet NO SQUEAKS!

joebxr

BOOM...it's not squeaks!

joebxr

KYB has identified a replacement for rear of '13-'15
KYB 554406 (different than previous generation KYB part 349095)
"New Part Number, Available 3rd Quarter; Recommended OE Replacement"

sharkwaters

AND NO OUTRAGEOUS DEALERSHIP BILL or BS...BOOM! lol


You're Welcome!

joebxr

BOOM WHAT....IT's NOT A SQUEAK...what part of CLUNK do you not understand?
Dealership bill???? It' a WARRANTY ISSUE...no cost to owner, DUH!
Hope I've helped to clarify for you!
You're welcome!

mdfree

Interesting the new part is a monotube vs the excel g design on the first generation. Can't wait to hear how this works out

joebxr

Maybe Colorado Guy can chime in with a comparison to the 2016 OEM versions becuz he did an extensive evaluation on them if I am not mistaken. Would be interesting to note if the new KYB design is same/similar to 2016 OEM design.

Joe Las Vegas

Great info, thanks a million.

Comfy

Wow 666 posts!!! Let me break the jinx.

rosen39

Not to mention over 60,000 "views".............there must be a reason!!

KeithL

Does anyone know for sure that 2016 RDX does not have same issue? GF's 14 RDX had struts replaced a while back and they are starting to act up again. She is interested in 16 RDX AWD Advance, but if the same crappy struts are there then we will move on from Acura.

rosen39

Hmmmmm.

hand-filer

Fooled me once, that's enough.

mdfree

Maybe we should start a new thread for the updated KYB rear shock that is supposed to be available third quarter this year? I'm really anxious to hear people's thoughts and experience with this part. It's got to be better than the OEM right...

computer_man

I would think that the 2016 RDX is too new to know if this is an issue. I currently have 2K miles on my 2016 and have not yet had any problems.

mdfree

The KYB shocks I'm referring to will be for the 2013-2015 years, not sure if the 2016 uses the same OEM shock or if there is an issue with them

KeithL

I guess we need someone with access to service manuals to see if the part in rear suspension changed.

andysinnh

The rear springs and shocks have different parts between 2015 and 2016 (per the part breakout on Acura Parts | OEM Acura Parts | Factory Acura Parts ).....

andy

joebxr

It's interesting that even price is different...2016 $9 cheaper

kagetsu

Btw I had the exact same issue on my RDX 2014, in another thread I read that it was the shocks. I took the vehicle in for service and the reaction from the service technician was Acura and their recent habit of using cheap parts from China rather than Japanese parts. They replace the right strut and the sound is completely gone.

It sounds almost like someone has a book and lightly bumping the interior of your back or side wall.

The sound appears when ever your strut is moving or slightly in the beginning of a bounce hence you don't hear it all the time.

On the freeway going over 40 you won't hear them at all except right at the beginning of a bump.

KeithL

Well that is encouraging, but I agree I would like to,hear how well the KYB do. The gf's 14 RDX is 28K miles and the struts are acting up again after being replaced once already.