lightjak_tsx

nice

civicdrivr

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Insightful.

JBlueCLS6

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Just bought some RL Calipers, should be here Wednesday, hopefully NVA gets back to me soon on the brackets... I'm going to try using a 15MM spacer to clear the Stock CLS Wheels.

friesm2000

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should make them sit quite flush too , and hopefully they fit

StreetKA

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i hope that they gonna fit behind my servos(18x7.5 ET42). i measured i have now like 27mm clearance from a stock caliper to one of the spokes

WBA-01

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So where is everybody getting there hands on these calipers.

civicdrivr

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Youre going to use extended studs right?

IIRC E30 had Servos and they didnt clear.

JBlueCLS6

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Yes sir, I think Eibach has a hubcentric 15mm spacer kit with extended studs around $100 bucks I'll get.

Just sent Paul payment, think I'm gonna powdercoat my calipers ABP or Red before I throw them on. What do you think the average charge should be on that?

StreetKA

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Yes but servos comes with offsets. 50 and 42. i have 42 thats why im confused.

e30 can clear this up which offset did you try ? thanks

civicdrivr

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Shouldnt be much. The calipers I bought were already powdercoated. Make sure you mask them off properly though. The previous owner of mine took them apart and sprayed the area where the two halves meet so it didn't seal properly. I had to grind off all the PC without damaging the seal seats. Fun times.

I just spoke with him and he said he bought Inspyres. The Servos are a toss up for fitment. It they have a high pad height then you shouldnt have a problem. The offset itself doesnt really matter, the spoke clearances do.

PKIM

If the stockies need 15mm-20mm spacers will we rub at all? or will we just sit flush?

Rajca

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stock height. with 15mm spacers u should sit flush

womey

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Also, I'd get spacers for the rear too. Flush sitting front wheels and hellaunflush rear wheels isnt a good look imo.

JBlueCLS6

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Won't be running stock wheels anymore. Scored something nice and the calipers will be back from the powdercoaters next week. Got them in lollipop blue which was close to the factory abp.

friesm2000

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now, now; don't squeeze it so hard LMFAO

victorvu

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ok i have a question will the stock 03 wheels fit with these calipers?

civicdrivr

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No.

victorvu

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guess off to look for 3rd gen wheels.

01tl4tl

whats the cost breakdown? --calipers, bracket, rotor, lines and fluid

how does it compare in price to Excelerates 6 piston wilwoods?

Im running enkei 18"s on the 01TL so clearance should be ok

Nersh7

IIRC the price after everything is slightly less, I don't know the actual cost breakdown though.

kdawg8526

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iirc i remember reading earlier around 700 bucks or so and i thought the excelerates wilwood brake kit had only 4 piston

civicdrivr

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The Wilwood kits come in either 4 or 6 piston varieties. The 6 piston costs over $1k though.

Look at spending around $700. The biggest variable is the calipers themselves. Check out Car-Part.com for calipers. You want 05-07 RL.. I heard there was a slight difference in the 08-up but Im not sure what it was.

p.diddy

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i spent $650 for my RL bbk.

Blazin Si

For those with the BBK, are you guys experiencing any issues with the ABS system? StopTech has a really great article that addresses the problem. http://stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_abs_bigbrakekits.shtml

Basically, it explains how your ABS system uses an algorithm containing some very specific numbers to minimize stopping distance and allow vehicle control under hard braking. Going to a larger rotor and pad set up has adverse effects on the performance of the system.

I had upgraded the 10", single piston brakes on my '97 2.2CL with the NSX set up. I believe the 2nd gen are similar to 1st gens in that the front ABS sensor counts the teeth on the axle. The actual speed of the wheel might not directly effect the system, but the beefier brakes have increased bite and probably effect the pulsing of the caliper.

I haven't done any hard braking since the upgrade other than immediately after the install, I had bed-in the pads and rotors by following StopTech's procedure. That was until last week, when I was traveling at roughly 75 mph on the highway and suddenly had to stand on the brakes. The front right wheel locked up. It didn't release until I had let off the brake pedal at around 50 mph.

I'm a bit concerned about this problem and wanted to know if any of you had come across it?

civicdrivr

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I havent run into any issues, only once in a panic stop at a high rate of speed (read - illegal) and ABS kicked in for a moment then I backed off a bit. Im sure the balance of the ABS is thrown off a bit.

Blazin Si

Did the car react as it did when when it had the stock brakes?

I personally never had to apply the brakes hard enough to engage the ABS prior to that day. At least on dry pavement anyways. So I don't have much to compare it too. Locking one wheel for as long as it did has me a bit worried.

civicdrivr

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Not much different. It stopped the car though, and thats the important thing. Went from about 95 to 45 pretty quickly. I didnt have just one lock up on me, I think all locked up a bit, because when I slammed on the brakes the car got a bit squirrelly.

Blazin Si

95 to 45 is a bit more intense. My car stayed straight, but I didn't have to do any evasive maneuvering other than applying the brakes.

upnout

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I'm getting my car serviced by NVA this month. The pics of the RL calipers, damn they look good. I'm going to ask him what my options are. 3g TL with A spec wheels 5AT
good info in this thread

civicdrivr

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Shouldn't have a problem running them. The 5AT uses a similar brake bracket as us. The models with the "Brembos" dont use a bracket, the calipers bolt directly to the knuckle from behind. And you should be able to run the A-Specs. I can run them on mine.

e30cabrio

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I had to stop quickly several times before and after the upgrade. The only change was much improved braking.

I'd have that caliper and it's line checked.

KnightRyderV

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question regarding wheel position using the different rotors. my wheels are hellaflush and i cant afford any lower offset of the front wheels so when looking at e30's pics and seeing that the rotors hat is sitting virtually flush with the end of the hub kind of worries me because it looks as if the EBC rotors are acting like a 5mm spacer or somewhere around there.

then civicdrivr said his hub actually sticks out the same as oem if not more with Powerslot rotors. since 2nd CLs and 6th gen accords are pretty similar i figure i'd have the same fitment as you guys so i wanted to get this clear before i choose which rotors to buy.

the powerslot rotors do cost a little more so i really should just go with those to be on the safe side but i wonder if anyone else has noticed their wheels being a little lower offset (sticking out more) when using the EBC rotors.

nspec_ya4

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if thats the case, you can always have the machine shop shave off a mm or two from rotor and the wheel.

nspec_ya4

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If i remember correctly, in ur car, u also have to upgrade the master cylinder to make the nsx calipers work properly.

I haven't had a time when I had to "Slam" the brakes, but i came pretty close to it several times and these RL brakes do the job pretty damn good compared to OEM CL calipers. They feel like regular brakes unless u push down on them close to the slamming them.

rp_guy

can someone PM me paul's info (phone or email is fine)

thanks

civicdrivr

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Im a bit confused, what exactly are you asking?

If youre asking about caliper to wheel clearance, it all depends on if the wheel is BBK friendly.

friesm2000

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also wheel spacers can provide the needed clearence for a bbk, but then again you gotta pay to play

civicdrivr

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From what I gather from his post, he's already running an aggressive fitment.

kdawg8526

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u can pm him his user name is nva-av6

KnightRyderV

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I'm not worried about wheel clearance. I understand the clearance I need and I know I have it. I have ame tracer fs01 rims at a 31 offset so I have enough space.

From what I understand about the differnece between your powerslot rotors vs e30s ebc rotors is that the hub which the rim sits on is virtually gone on his setup but is still available on yours. And since the rims sit against the hat of the rotor, by theory my rims would sit exactly the same way they r now on my car if I use the powerslot rotors but if I use the ebc rotors then my wheels would stick out several mm more.

Do u happen to have a pic of your rotors installed on the car with the wheels off maybe if i had a picture to compare your rotors to the ones e30 posted.

Sorry if its still unclear. Worst case ill just spend a few more bucks for the powerslot rotors since u said u still have a hub for the rim to sit on.