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Old 07-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yungone501
I once did a big comparison between j-series engine and a GM LS1. In a cylinder per cylinder perspective, the j-series came out ahead EVERY time. And that was comparing with only the j32a2 260hp motor.
I do agree they are very similar as in hp per cylinder aspects.
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Since were on the subject I decided to take a few pictures with the oem j series exhaust gasket placed against my dads old 355 and his new 6.0 LS2 engine. The 355 has old cast iron fuely double hump heads and the 6.0 LS2 has 317 heads with worked exhaust runners. The j series gasket is very similar in size compared to the worked LS2 heads lol.

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That's awesome.^^^

I love smashing on LS motors every time I get beside one. They go stupid-faced, it never gets old.
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It's been awhile since I updated this thread. I payed the loan on my cls off and bought a new daily driver a 06 TBSS. So since the cls won't be running for awhile I'll play with that for the time being and to add another vehicle to my lineup!

I changed my mind with the cls and decided to go the turbo route. I'm shooting for 700+whp on race gas and high boost! I'm going to use Matt Hickham's turbo manifolds and his new upper intake design he's been working on lately. So my custom long tube headers that are being built by rameybuilt (which should be done anyday now) will be for sale soon to help fund the new setup. Open to reasonable offers.. I rolled and pulled the front fenders with the help of my friend so I'll be able to keep the car low on the drag wheel/tire setup. The fenders need some finishing touches then they will be ready for a light coat of filler to perfect them.

Jacob at tuck tech finished my engine harness so I'll be able to use aem ems and we decided to remove a bunch of things to clean up the harness and engine bay.

Here's some pictures enjoy!

The new daily driver doing what it does best lmao!

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The new engine harness.

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The fender working process.

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The new header design for the most ground clearance possible.

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Conrats on the new whip, enjoy that whopping 8 MPG
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Conrats on the new whip, enjoy that whopping 8 MPG
Thank you. It's not that bad lol. 15-16MPG average while mixed city/highway driving. It feels great to be back in a V8 powered vehicle. I missed the feeling of torque lmao!
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Another header picture from today my friend sent me.

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Man i want those Those would go great with the 3.7 build. Just to find a way to convince the wife to let me spend the monies....
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I wonder how hard it would be to install once it is all welded into 1 piece. Are you using any V clamps?

Will you be able to install it with the engine in the bay or do you need to remove the engine to install headers. Did the builder take this into consideration?

I see where it merges from 3-2 that it is a pipe inside a pipe connection. Will that part come apart or be welded also?

Sorry if any of these questions seem stupid.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Man i want those Those would go great with the 3.7 build. Just to find a way to convince the wife to let me spend the monies....
Lol just let me know I'm open to all reasonable offers.

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I wonder how hard it would be to install once it is all welded into 1 piece. Are you using any V clamps?

Will you be able to install it with the engine in the bay or do you need to remove the engine to install headers. Did the builder take this into consideration?

I see where it merges from 3-2 that it is a pipe inside a pipe connection. Will that part come apart or be welded also?

Sorry if any of these questions seem stupid.
It's actually three separate pieces front header, rear header, and the 2 into 1 collector is slip fit. It's definitely going to be tight but they will fit. The engine won't have to be removed. Worst case scenario a slim aftermarket fan (spal brand for example) will have to be used on the radiator to clear the front header. I'll double take some measurements today to check.
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OH MY DAMN. Those are the sexiest headers I've ever seen for a j-series.

I don't want to know how much that costs, because i'll cry due to the fact that i'll never be able to afford it.

I look forward to seeing more!


but really was the custom fabbing 1-2K+???
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In for the AEM EMS install. Is the custom harness made to use the ECU's manual sensor board? Or are you converting to the auto sensors.
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Can wait to see how this build turns out I'm about to do a j35a3 build my self. Wish I had the $$$$ for those headers they look awesome!!!!
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Originally Posted by 1foxbody
Since were on the subject I decided to take a few pictures with the oem j series exhaust gasket placed against my dads old 355 and his new 6.0 LS2 engine. The 355 has old cast iron fuely double hump heads and the 6.0 LS2 has 317 heads with worked exhaust runners. The j series gasket is very similar in size compared to the worked LS2 heads lol.



Its funny, i took the same pic when i put the new 350 in my Ski Boat this spring.

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Originally Posted by 01CLinprocess
OH MY DAMN. Those are the sexiest headers I've ever seen for a j-series.

I don't want to know how much that costs, because i'll cry due to the fact that i'll never be able to afford it.

I look forward to seeing more!


but really was the custom fabbing 1-2K+???
Lol thank you! Yes, I have a little over 2k in them.

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In for the AEM EMS install. Is the custom harness made to use the ECU's manual sensor board? Or are you converting to the auto sensors.
The harness is completely custom made by Jacob at tuck tech. I posted a couple of pics of it in this thread and my build thread. I'm actually going to be using the auto cam/crank sensors that came on the 3.5 already.

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Can wait to see how this build turns out I'm about to do a j35a3 build my self. Wish I had the $$$$ for those headers they look awesome!!!!
Yeah it's easy to find a J35A3 and they aren't expensive. Perfect reason to push it hard lol. Thank you!

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Its funny, i took the same pic when i put the new 350 in my Ski Boat this spring.

Vortec Head

I saw your picture and that's what gave me the idea to go check also lol.
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More pictures of the headers.

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For sale thread for the headers.

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/custom-rameybuilt-long-tube-j-series-headers-897054/
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Aye Greg I'm not sure if I've said this before but I really look up to you in the things you've done and are doing with the CL . I play your youtube videos a lot to show what the CL puts down on spray with stock internals . I kinda follow in your steps with a lot that you do . Thank you for all this .
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Originally Posted by mikebikelife
Aye Greg I'm not sure if I've said this before but I really look up to you in the things you've done and are doing with the CL . I play your youtube videos a lot to show what the CL puts down on spray with stock internals . I kinda follow in your steps with a lot that you do . Thank you for all this .
I appreciate that, thank you! The car surprised a lot of people in person when it was on the n2o. I have big plans with it in the future, so keep a eye out. Still going to be using a stock shortblock but 3.5 this time around but I still won't be afraid to push it to the limit when boosted.
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Jacob at TuckTech tagged me in his pic he took of my harness yesterday. I'm very happy with the way it turned out.

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Any plans on getting the tach to work if you're using auto sensors? I think it would be possible to use a digital signal modifier to sort it out.
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That harness looks nice man!!
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Originally Posted by 1foxbody
Jacob at TuckTech tagged me in his pic he took of my harness yesterday. I'm very happy with the way it turned out.


U are a brave man.
Not may would dare to go down this road ( d Time , $$$ and all the headache)
Much respect bro ....
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Originally Posted by Karanx7
Any plans on getting the tach to work if you're using auto sensors? I think it would be possible to use a digital signal modifier to sort it out.
What's your concern with the tach? Hopefully I can help. The ecu gathers information from the timing side sensors and then internally converts it to the same NE+ signal that nearly all Honda tach's operate on. Some tachs obviously operate on 4 ignition pulses as opposed to 6, however the signal is the same. Older distributor style ignitions used this type of signal as well from a wire coming directly off of the ICM with a dedicated tach signal. This is why regardless of which J series ECU and motor/trans setup I use I can still make the tach function even in a cluster as old as a 92 civic. Granted Civic tachs are designed for 4 ignition pulses and will inevitably read 33% higher RPM reading when provided 6 from the J series ECU (be it auto or a true manual swap). Since Greg will be running the AEM unit, the tach signal will be able to be adjusted within the parameters of the software to output either a 4 cylinder friendly tach signal or a 6 cylinder one. Hope this clears up any questions.
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Thanks for clarifying that Jacob. It's going to be a long road with this car but it will be well worth it.
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Foxbody I was wondering if I could get your help? I noticed that you took a picture comparing the bell mouth runners that bolt on the upper intake from the c/tls and the mdx. Did you measure the lengths and was the runner diameter the same? I have a j35a3 that I just picked up but my tls is my DD and want to leave it intact till I make my swap. Thanks
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Originally Posted by 03 tls nc
Foxbody I was wondering if I could get your help? I noticed that you took a picture comparing the bell mouth runners that bolt on the upper intake from the c/tls and the mdx. Did you measure the lengths and was the runner diameter the same? I have a j35a3 that I just picked up but my tls is my DD and want to leave it intact till I make my swap. Thanks
All three are identical minus that little velocity stack plate on the mdx that bolts on and off the upper intake manifold. Technically that would make the port a little longer when it's bolted on. The mdx has that spacer between the upper and lower so that would make it longer also.
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Foxbody some times I'm lost for words. The velocity stacks are exactly what I'm talking about. I can measure the length of j35a3 but was wondering if you had the length of the j32a2.


Are you still planning to build a custom intake manifold?
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Originally Posted by 03 tls nc
Foxbody some times I'm lost for words. The velocity stacks are exactly what I'm talking about. I can measure the length of j35a3 but was wondering if you had the length of the j32a2.


Are you still planning to build a custom intake manifold?
So you want to know the difference in velocity stack height between the two engines?

Yes and no on the intake manifold lol. I'm going a little different route. I'm going to use oem ported lower runners and Matt Hickam's new upper intake manifold he designed.

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Originally Posted by 03 tls nc
Foxbody some times I'm lost for words. The velocity stacks are exactly what I'm talking about. I can measure the length of j35a3 but was wondering if you had the length of the j32a2.


Are you still planning to build a custom intake manifold?
The J32A2 v-stacks are about 3/8"


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Originally Posted by jacobuchanan140
What's your concern with the tach? Hopefully I can help. The ecu gathers information from the timing side sensors and then internally converts it to the same NE+ signal that nearly all Honda tach's operate on. Some tachs obviously operate on 4 ignition pulses as opposed to 6, however the signal is the same. Older distributor style ignitions used this type of signal as well from a wire coming directly off of the ICM with a dedicated tach signal. This is why regardless of which J series ECU and motor/trans setup I use I can still make the tach function even in a cluster as old as a 92 civic. Granted Civic tachs are designed for 4 ignition pulses and will inevitably read 33% higher RPM reading when provided 6 from the J series ECU (be it auto or a true manual swap). Since Greg will be running the AEM unit, the tach signal will be able to be adjusted within the parameters of the software to output either a 4 cylinder friendly tach signal or a 6 cylinder one. Hope this clears up any questions.
The problem is that the AEM unit spits out the tach signal for a 4 cyl civic cluster. The 6 cyl cluster doesn't read this signal at all for some reason.

The issue is that the AEM unit cannot be adjusted to spit out a signal for a 6 cyl cluster. Therefore, accords have been using 4 cyl clusters, but the CL and TL cars are out of luck without a external signal modifier.
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very cool work man
I plan on doing a j32 swap in a junk civic soon just to make it a sleeper. I love the tq on these motors.
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Thanks fsttyms1 and foxbody, yes I'm comparing the difference in the velocity stacks. Just looking for options to shorten or lengthen intake runner length to get get close to the calculated idea.

Foxbody the Hickman IM look badass!!!
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Hello guys. Newbie here. Just looking for some info. 1foxbody commented earlier that the ARP head stud kit for the J-series V-6 is #208-4307. This kit # shows for the 4-cyl on the ARP site? Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks!
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Hello guys. Newbie here. Just looking for some info. 1foxbody commented earlier that the ARP head stud kit for the J-series V-6 is #208-4307. This kit # shows for the 4-cyl on the ARP site? Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks!
Check out site vendor HealToe they sale the stud kit and XLR8 may sale them as well.

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Originally Posted by sandrail3.5
Hello guys. Newbie here. Just looking for some info. 1foxbody commented earlier that the ARP head stud kit for the J-series V-6 is #208-4307. This kit # shows for the 4-cyl on the ARP site? Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks!
If you buy two ARP head stud kits for the h-series, its still cheaper than buying one set for the j-series. Not only is it cheaper, but you also get extra hardware just in case you strip a bolt or not...which will probably never happen.

What's up Greg? I've been hearing some deviant story's from Matt here lately. Lol
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Thanks for the info guys!!! One more question, can the stock head bolts be reused or are they only good for one time and need to be replaced? i searched around and see conflicting info.
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havent been in here in a bit....but all I wanna say is DAYUMMMM !!!

the heads looks SICK....the headers look like an enthusiast's wet dream....the manifold is starting to turn my 'other' head....

effin drool worthy man....well done....
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Originally Posted by sandrail3.5
Thanks for the info guys!!! One more question, can the stock head bolts be reused or are they only good for one time and need to be replaced? i searched around and see conflicting info.

It's not recommended to reused head studs, they are designed to stretch when they are torqued.


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