teh CL

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Nice find. I've messaged him previously for another project but never got a response. Wouldn't hurt to send another one & hope for the best

Gonna go straight to the source & email AEM. A jumper harness isn't that hard to create, just need the correct info on what needs to be done.

brian6speed

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When I emailed AEM, all they said was talk to boomslang. Hope they help you more than they did me.

ahxChun

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well i just save myself $400 from going to boomslang. one more obstacle to overcome now.

brian6speed

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Care to expand on that comment?

I tried messaging Boomslang but they never replied. I have read about them having bad customer service.

ahxChun

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kind of worded it wrong, lol, but the boomslang harness is $400 + shipping. I figured out the harness part with a little work and search. So now all i have to source is the female plug and i can make my own harness.

brian6speed

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That's what I figured.

Do you have a build thread posted on any forum? Would be interested to see what you are doing. 3.5 to 3.7 N/A build? What body shell?

teh CL

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Which female plug do you need?

ahxChun

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The ecu side itself. I have the info for it somewhere, just got to see if I can find it

R J Poseidon 6

Yes, I have an AEM on my SuperCharged CL S6.

It works perfect. It was, in fact, rewired by Dezod b/c Paul is a God.

It was done by Kings Performance | I AM THE KING. & everything on my car works perfect - even the heated seats

ahxChun

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which v2 is it?

Karanx7

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Kings uses the 30-6050

zeta

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What other mods are your running, BTW.

Headers; hiflow cat; b-pipe; lightweight crank pulley,CT high boost pulley - DETAILS MAN!!

Moreover, does this God Paul you speak of work for Dezod?

R J Poseidon 6

Yes, lol, Paul is at Dezod.

Mods, well, CompTech IceBox, Headers, BPipe (just the BPipe), & SuperCharger (of course). Otherwise I have the Unorthodox lightnened pulleys & the AEM. Any other little things would have to be answered by Sergio at Kings b/c I really don't remember.

I really, really don't miss the surging that the piggyback had. That shit sucked.

R J Poseidon 6

This should be it...

R J Poseidon 6

Oops! Sorry, that's me karting....

Let me try again...

R J Poseidon 6

There it is! I love it

R J Poseidon 6

Correct

zeta

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Nice.

How about your flywheel\clutch/pressure plate? Are they still OEM? IF so, how are they holding up at that 329HP level?

If they are not OEM what, if you can remember, are you running?

Sorry to be so insistent, hehe; however, you are, with this tuned AEM SC'ed CLS6, a bit of an anomaly here, so for posterities sake we need as much info to quench our curiosity, hehe.

Besides, I live south of your location at Kings Performance and am very interested in this skillset Sergio and Dezod bring to this platform.

gnuts

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I wish I lived down there...I'd be tune on 6psi with water/meth.

ahxChun

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Yea i have one on j32a, but haven't updated it lately. It's just a j32a2 CL-S 6MT really with a 4" intake and header now. Planning on spraying it a little bit and 3.6 maybe next season all stuffed into a civic hb.

R J Poseidon 6

Yes, OEM but not OEM per say, I've replaced them w/new OEM ones. So, sometimes if I've done some spirited driving it doesn't engage so quickly into third. But, it's only done that on hot ass days.

As far as the Kings guys, they (as far as I know) are the only ones that have done this properly. And what I mean is no issues, nor surging - nada. I have all our CL electronic goodies working (except OnStar but that's b/c of GM). They are really cool about helping after tune. So, if i have questions they help w/out hesitation.

zeta

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Thanks for the response, your personal input is very helpful.

So it appears that the OEM equivalent clutch replacements can handle the HP tuned to 329whp. Yes I'm familiar with the 'hot ass days' here in FL, hehe. Especially with running the Comptech ESM and NO tune, gots to be careful of knock.

Yes, I believe you are correct. That's why this is so interesting for myself. Maybe there is another in the cards, S/C'ed CL-S6, tuned by Kings Performance here in the future.

However, I will have to get my flywheel/clutch/pressure plate replaced as well as a tranny check/rebuild first, LOL. I believe my differential carrier bearings (147Kmiles), at a minimum, will need to be replaced soon.

This is REALLY good to hear.

Two questions:

1) Do the Honda/Acura specialists in-house at Kings rebuild Acura 6-speed transmissions?

2) In passing there at Kings, ask Sergio if he thinks it would be possible to pick up an additional 8-10+ tuned HP if you were to run a Hi-flow cat as part of your exhaust system. Because a tuned S/C'ed CL-S6 with 339whp+ would be a feather in his cap, hehe.

Thanks again.

brian6speed

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I wonder if the tranny's Paul mentioned were abused from drag racing and a lot of wheel hop.

I don't drag race or induce wheel hop so maybe the bearings last longer?

Is there a reason you think they need replacing or just from reading forums?

zeta

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Great question. I don't recall him mentioning specifically it being related to drag racing/wheel hop per se; however, in civicdrivr's build thread he addresses it and that's where I FIRST hear about these bloody diff. bearings. Which I'll explain below.

Nor do I. However, when I took delivery of the car it had a total of 60 miles on the odometer back in Aug2002. So God only knows what kind of abuse it MAY have incurred at the hands of the SOB's who may have test driven it to extol the virtue's of the new six speed Acura had to offer, LOL.

In addition, there is also the week to ten days in 2005 the car was completely out of my possession when the S/C'er was installed by a shop up in Lockhart FL. I SUSPECT that they had a 'fine ole time' sporting it around, since they claimed it was the first manual that they had ever installed a blower into , to say the least.

In civicdrivr's build thread, post #1663, NVA-AV6 asks him if he has 'play' on the inner driver side axle joint at the trans housing, in relation to some 'vibrations' civic was experiencing, on his former CLS6 after some racing activity.

https://acurazine.com/forums/photogr...769245/page42/

Then in post #1682, I ask civicdrivr, based on NVA-AV6's input:

'Other than the in-car symptoms that one may notice like the 'vibration/shuddering' you mentioned above, is there any other info. that NVA-AV6 may have offered that would help diagnose diff bearing issues? He mentions the 'play' from the inner joint at the trans housing above? Is that in/out play versus circular play, or both? I don't think I have seen any mention of this type of issue on AZine before.'

https://acurazine.com/forums/photogr...769245/page43/

To which NVA-AV6 answers in post #1684:

'No, not in/out play, but up/down and or left/right. The inner joint should be solidly in the diff to where any play would be the diff bearings or the diff itself.'

Well, I have up/down and or left/right play in my inner driver side axle joint at the tranny housing. It is not 'solidly in the diff'. There is also slight vibration in the front of the car when cruising at the lower limit speed of a gear. For instance, 40mph in 5th gear. However, no noticable vibration when accelerating OR decelerating OR when cruising at speeds above 50mph in sixth gear.

So, this is what I'm basing my suspicion on in regards to the lesser of two evils. 1) possible worn diff. carrier bearings OR 2) the worst case, a bad differential . Both driveshafts where replaced in 2011, IIRC.

However, when I perform the limited slip differential check depicted in the Helms manual, in 1st gear, I turn one wheel clockwise, the opposite side wheel turns counter clockwise; which in-turn indicates the LSD is OK. Otherwise, all the gears shift smooth and I have had no other issues with the tranny.

R J Poseidon 6

Yes, they can rebuild transmissions w/out a problem. They have the world's fastest streetable S2K (Yellow Bullet) & also the world's fastest Lotus Elise (Honda K-Series) & have redone those a few times.

According to Sergio, if you have a regular cat now & replace it w/a hi-flo you will get hp but he cannot put a number on it (he likes hard evidence so he won't say a number w/out putting on dyno).

So .... let's do this! Bro, we should take tons of side-by-side pics after it's done!

fsttyms1

I have close to 400k on my manual trans and the bearings are ok. A few drag runs, many lapping days and lots of spirited driving

R J Poseidon 6

So ... no one else has done this yet?

AnthraciteTypeS

I'm looking into it R J.

So to clarify, who built the harness for the aem, King or Dezod? I see Dezod is out of NY which is much closer to me.

richardparker

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How soon are you looking to buy ?
Maybe we can get it cheaper if we both want one.

brian6speed

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I'm waiting till this current race season is over. Plan on tackling it in winter.

AnthraciteTypeS

I have several other projects keeping me busy, so probably no time soon but definitely over the winter

R J Poseidon 6

Harness was done by Dezod through Kings Performance. Mine was the 1st so now Paul at Dezod has all the Pixie Dust to make more!

Installation & Tuning was done by Kings.

brian6speed

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Can you pass emissions with this setup if swap back to oem ecu?

zeta

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https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...eed-cl-910695/

^I believe the answer to your question is yes, brian. Starting with post#29 on your thread above. Unfortunately, R J Poseidon 6 has not been active on the forum since 14Nov16.

Remember the Dezod AEM EMS was proprietarily 'hacked', by them, along with a specifically constructed 'plug n play' pinned 6-speed ECU harness to 'make' it work with the finicky 'factory' sensors on the CL-S6. That's why the kit from Dezod is so bloody expensive, because it is a 'custom made to order' unit for our cars; however, the downside is that there is only one that it has successfully been installed in. So answers are not quickly available by more forum members.

Karanx7

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It's not really as complicated as you're making it out to be. It's been done before, and it's pretty simple. I think Civicdrvr posted how to switch the AEM EMS 2 to accept the manual sensors. It was just a simple switch inside the box. The harness is just a simple repin. In order to switch back to the CL-S6 stock ecu, you will have to switch back to a narrowband O2 sensor (unless the stock ECU accepts wideband which I doubt).

They did not 'hack' it in any way involving software.

zeta

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IF it were as easy as you say, then FIND his post and show us; otherwise, if he put it out there here on this forum, alot more 6-speed owners would have done it. Myself included.

Look at post #11 by the OP in this thread. He contacted DEZOD and they stated:

"our unit is a combination of internal proprietary modifications along with a specific wiring harness to work. Our calibration is special as well for the app. It's a complete solution that has been tried and proven. It's far from an off the shelf unit."

Before you become a spokes person for Dezod and speak so confidently about THEIR 'proprietary modifications' and 'calibration of the app'
MAYBE you should post up a DIY on your method.

Karanx7

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You can find it yourself. Why would I help you with your attitude.

What's wrong with you? I never stated I speak for them. You obviously have no understanding of the EMS internal software. You can believe what you want.

zeta

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Where is the fn post? Big mouth. You can't find it because it is not here on this forum.

Come on, . Don't give up so easily. You want to make a positive contribution to this thread? Why don't you use that swinging dick attitude of yours and display those electronic critical thinking skills and tell us how you managed that 'flick of the switch' for your ems?

Maybe it's as easy as putting an M90 on a CTE M62 input shaft,

brian6speed

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Now now, let's play nice guys. I remember civic posting something about it, but honestly what does he know? He also said the butterflies were working in his J37 IM.

If it was as easy as turning on a light switch, I wonder why aem didn't market it to work with manual motors also.

Emailed Dezod and they comfirmed you can plug stock ecu back in.

Tim at King Motorsports is looking into it for me. Basically have 3 options: Dezod option, hacking auto ecu, or converting back to stock. Will let you know what they come up with.

But honestly Karanx7, if you know everything why not post to help others out? I post all my info to help others, even though according to this forum I am a douchebag.

zeta

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Of course, it's to be expected. You can't back up your statements, why would you think of providing open data to this forum? However, I must say you are quite adept at deflective inane one line asinine responses.