RL Calipers Fit behind 05 TL 17" rims!

Old 01-04-2010, 08:39 AM
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The only thing that concerns me is that there is no longer a hub ring to help hold the rim centered in place

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I am extremely sensitive to VNH and there has been no change in any category.

The car rides exactly as it did before except the brakes are better.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Believe me, I know that the brake bias is changed with the BBK. Ive installed larger brakes on other cars, and Ive upgraded from drums to discs on my Civic. But what do you suggest we use to adjust bias?
Usually, shops install items like these to prevent lockup of either front or rear wheels.

http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/6...aspx?kc=affpfx
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That is a really neat valve, too bad the year of vehicle starts at 1993.

Again, the brakes are great, I have driven almost one thousand miles on them and they are a-ok.
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e30cabrio, looks like you beat me to the punch. You must be the guy that Paul also fabricated the bracket for. You're a lucky bastard since I ate the cost of sending my calipers and a rotor to him to do the mockup. I'm just playing though. It's all good. Just had a chance last night to install my '06 RL Calipers.

I used G2 Caliper Epoxy paint system and clear coated the unpainted letters. Anyhow, here are my pictures...





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he made one for civicdrvr & I jumped on it, if you got the ball rolling, thanks but I think he had his own set of calipers that look like mine.
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
he made one for civicdrvr & I jumped on it, if you got the ball rolling, thanks but I think he had his own set of calipers that look like mine.
^^^ has a newer tl then the 2g TL/CL, and if he has a manual, then it would be completely different brackets then both you and civic
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hey e30cabrio where did you get your rotors from?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The only thing that concerns me is that there is no longer a hub ring to help hold the rim centered in place
Whats odd is that my hub actually sticks out more for the wheel to grab onto. I am using Powerslot rotors, E30 is running the EBCs I believe.

binhsterbinh - When did you have the brackets made? My car was there in the beginning of december for the build. If they were your calipers that he used for the mockup, thankyou

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I think Im going to order a hub centric ring for the rotor though, theres a slight gap between it and the hub.

I still need to rebleed them as the pedal is a bit mushy, but I couldnt stay out there in the rain doing it. I dont mind the cold, but toss in the rain I become frustrated.
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the rotor's hat is thinner then the stock one, so the reason for the hub sticking out more



also the rotor being centered, not much to do for moving it around, casue the lug nut studs seem to already be a tight fit through the rotor, so should already be centered, so it be more piece of mind having that


also it is more the wheel that is more critical to getting a snug fit on the hub itself (which you do with the RJ's), cause not only does it center the wheel (which the tapered lugs would do too), it also takes alot of the load (weight of the car) off the lugnuts, and making those completely doing everything, when never being designed to from the factory (so they only have to hold the wheel aginst the hub and not also take side loading)
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RL rotor setup

Originally Posted by friesm2000
the rotor's hat is thinner then the stock one, so the reason for the hub sticking out more



also the rotor being centered, not much to do for moving it around, casue the lug nut studs seem to already be a tight fit through the rotor, so should already be centered, so it be more piece of mind having that


also it is more the wheel that is more critical to getting a snug fit on the hub itself (which you do with the RJ's), cause not only does it center the wheel (which the tapered lugs would do too), it also takes alot of the load (weight of the car) off the lugnuts, and making those completely doing everything, when never being designed to from the factory (so they only have to hold the wheel aginst the hub and not also take side loading)
Setup looks sickkkk.


would u know or anybody else know if this new acura rl setup will clear and work with the RJ inspires 19 inche wheels. I dont wanna have to change too much to make this work if I decide to go this route.

i believe the ronjon wheels are RonJon Inspyres 19x7.5 with a +50 Offset
(how does the proportioning valve work ?)

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Originally Posted by kdawg8526
hey e30cabrio where did you get your rotors from?
Sorry missed the question.

I got the rotors, SS lines & pads from AJUSA.
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The Inspyres do not work with these. E30 tried them first but he would have to run a spacer.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
The Inspyres do not work with these. E30 tried them first but he would have to run a spacer.
x2, started another post, then remembered what wheels the inspyres are so deleted it cause it was irrelevant, but yeah running spacers should fix any clearance issues with the caliper, only thing might be the clearance to the body with the tire, but that all matters on his setup and such
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Sorry missed the question.

I got the rotors, SS lines & pads from AJUSA.
hey thanks do you know the part number for the rotors?
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Sorry I don't
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Also, it looks like Wilwood has a big rotor upgrade for the rear. http://store.revolutionbrake.com/acuraclrear.html
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Cool! Shame slotted only is + 100.00.
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nice, but they expect u to use the oem rear caliper? bc its tiny.
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I'd like to use the OEM front. Especially since I have four. lol
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that would be awesome. might try this when i finish with my other projects.
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Oh yeah, I didnt realize slotted was 100+, that's pretty busted. I wonder if you could use the front rotor and caliper on the rear...
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^ No. The front rotor wont work with the e-brake.
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hey thanks do you know the part number for the rotors?
I just looked my box. These are part # for z rotors. Power slot.

126.42076SR
564PSR

126.42076SL
564PSL
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Very cool work guys! Looks awesome. If I didnt already have the Rotoras I would do this in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted by anthracitecl
I just looked my box. These are part # for z rotors. Power slot.

126.42076SR
564PSR

126.42076SL
564PSL
Thanksm man this will be in my to do list for my car
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Those calipers look sick. I have 18 inch servos with a 50 offset---think they would work ok with this setup?
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It really depends on the barrels & spokes. I had 19" RJ Inspyres that did not clear.
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I'm pretty sure they won't fit.
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Most high offset wheels wont clear a BBK. You need a wheel that specifically states it is a high disc design.

If the wheel can clear the Brembos on the 3rd Gen TL, they will clear these.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Whats odd is that my hub actually sticks out more for the wheel to grab onto. I am using Powerslot rotors, E30 is running the EBCs I believe.

binhsterbinh - When did you have the brackets made? My car was there in the beginning of december for the build. If they were your calipers that he used for the mockup, thankyou

Mine:



I think Im going to order a hub centric ring for the rotor though, theres a slight gap between it and the hub.

I still need to rebleed them as the pedal is a bit mushy, but I couldnt stay out there in the rain doing it. I dont mind the cold, but toss in the rain I become frustrated.
Didn't see your question regarding when I had my brackets made. They were at Paul's place from November through December 2009. I had one racing brake 12.6" 350z rotor and both calipers sent there. The calipers were unpainted at the time and in good condition (minus yellowing of the clear coat on letters)

I flushed all the brake lines when I installed them at all corners. The pedal was super mushy until reflushed the lines a day later after also activating the ABS to get any potential air out of the ABS controller. This solved the problem.

I went with the EBC Yellowstuff Pads and they took about 1000 miles to bed in. It's been about 1500 miles now and I'm really loving this setup. When cold, it feels like my stock oem ceramic and oem TL auto calipers do, but after a few stops, they produce a very powerful bite and modulation/feel is excellent.

I was unable to fit my OEM 04-06 TL 17's on without grinding down the custom brake bracket studs a little on the edges. The studs kept rubbing the inside of the wheel when I tried to spin the wheel. I also had to scrape off the wheel weights to clear the caliper itself. I use those wheels for alignments only anyhow so it wasn't a big deal. I can imagine that I'd have maybe a mm of clearance if I went with the 13" Nismo rotor and continued using the OEM TL wheels. What I like about Paul's bracket is that we can always go to larger rotors by simply adding 2 washers to each bracket stud.

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Yea, he mocked mine up with my Powerslot rotors. My EBC pads took about 800 miles to bed in fully, and coming to stops in the bed-in period was embarassing due to the loud squeel from them. It went away though, and the car stops HARD. I had the mushy pedal feeling too for alittle while but it firmed up. Ive been meaning to pick up better fluid and do a complete flush. I had to grind off a bit of the stud as well when I went with the 18s. Out of all the mods to my car though, this ranks in the top 2 (the other being the motor build).
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I love them every time I stop. I flushed my fluid fully when I did it with ATE DOT4

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so stock 2nd gen tl/cl rims wont fit with this set up? what about diff rims but in 17?
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E30 is running the 17" TL wheels. But the stock 2nd gen 17s definately wont fit.

If the wheels will clear the 3rd gen 6MTs Brembos, they'll clear these.

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but with spacers it will be alright?
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I tried to put my 03 stockies. It didn't work. so i tried spacers. If i remember correctly, 10mm didn't work. not even close. at least 15mm or maybe 20. u better find wheels that clear this brake. just my
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i will get diff rims
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i have servos 18x7.5 with Off Set 42 i think they should fit. i need rotors now. where ? for how much ? slotted or plain ? which pads ? im not looking to spend too much

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