Ahmed Nomaw

Well my second transmission on my 01 cl went, after I had replaced it when I first bought the car. The second transmission was from a 2000 Tl, that lasted about 4 months before crapping out on my way to work one day. However, I must have forgot that the 04 to 06 TL transmission were the solution replacement for the 01 - 03 CL.

So I decided to make a second purchase this time using the 06 TL-P transmission with 51000 miles on it. Now, I must tell you all who attempt this transmission install everything bolts up perfect. But you fisrt have to swap three things off the 06 transmission. The trans range sensor, which is connected with its own harness, theres a second one that connects to the third and fourth gear pressure switches, and the transmission cooler assembly on top of the transmission. And the reason why you have to swap the those two harnesses is the the connectors are different. The transmission cooler on top of the transmission is facing in a different direction to hook up the hoses.

After that your good to go, install the transmission and fill and drain. Then fill again with fluid, chagne the filter which is located next to the trans cooler ( there's a cap on it held by two bolts).
This filter is internal and can be bought at a honda dealership or parts store.
That is it pretty much fill the rest of the fluids let the car run for while. Your all done and ready to go after that.

NighthawkBlack

Do you have any pics of this install? Im an original owner and if my transmission goes Id like to do this swap. How does it shift? Does any programing need to happen?

Ahmed Nomaw

It shifts fine, the 04-06 trans is very strong, I will have to take picture of the wiring harness that need to swapped. Basically the trans range sensor and harness that connect to all the other solenoids.

Ahmed Nomaw

But its a direct swap, thank God. So let cap everything you will need to do this.
1.New transmission fluid
2.Two new 01-03 transmission mounts, side and rear. (reason is the mounts are probably shot anyway so change it now while its out)
3.Torque Converter (see the condition of the new transmission if it comes with one)
4.Reuse the axles that your came with
5.36mm socket
6.Take all the solenoids off the new transmission and clean them very well.

01acls

How are the gear ratios? Are they the same?

Ahmed Nomaw

THEY are the same, sorry not posting the pics. Been super busy.

frankjnjr

very interesting. was unaware the third gen. transmission was a viable alternative. anxious to see pics. i have an 07 AV6 trans on stand-by which i bought for $700 and a friend who could use it and is willing to pay $700 for it. there is a 71K 07 TLP transmission available locally which i can buy for $ 400.00 so i may sell the AV6 and buy the 07 TLP instead. thank you

01acls

The 3g 07/08 TL trans won't interchange with the 2g TL because the 3g has additional sensors.

I'm not sure but some peeps and a mod think it has 2 third gear clutches. Lol

YeuEmMaiMai

Personally I would not use a 2006 TL trans, there are SOME 07 TL trans that will work but they change it in the middle of production run. Your best bet is to get a 2007 Accord V6 transmission and swap over the range selector and wire harness. You will also need to buy a new oil to water cooler for your car that mounts on the top of the transmission. Gearing will be slightly different but the end result is a trans that will last longer.

Ahmed Nomaw

no problem, be sure to save the harness wires off the old transmission (Transmission range sensor and the solenoids harness) and the trans cooler on top of the 2G transmission. The 3G transmission cooler is facing in a different direction. This transmission replacement only works with a 3.2, and NOT THE 3.5

Ahmed Nomaw

Get your facts straight, the 07-08 with 3.5L is totally different from the 3.2L. The bell housing is different first of all, secondly the 04-06 work perfectly fine with no programming or modds. You just have to reuse some sensors and harnesses, please don't miss lead people if you have done the job before. I have changed the transmission on car twice by myself forum troll. So please forgive me if I'm straight up with directions.

Ahmed Nomaw

The 04 -06 trans has a new design, just like the 04-07 AV6 either one will work.

Ahmed Nomaw

Make sure it's 3.2L my friend, the 3.5 will no work or fit.

01acls

I said the 07/08 3g TL does not fit as in not compatible with the 2g TL.

Where did I say the 04/06 3g TL didn't work with the 2g TL? The 04/06 3g doesn't have additional sensors.

Additional, changing parts from original trans to replacement trans with different parts is a modification because the parts are not interchangeable. If the parts were the same then you wouldn't have to modify the 3G TL trans with the 2g TL trans parts to make it work.

HOW IS MY FACT NOT STRAIGHT AND WHY AM I A TROLL FOR STATING FACTS?

HairyMonkey019

iTrader: (7)

04-06 still had trans issues. Not worth swapping IMO.

01acls

You need to get your facts straight. The gear ratios between the 2g and 3g TL trans are not the same. Specifically, 1st, 4th, and 5th gears are different.

I could call you a troll but I don't want to insult trolls everywhere.

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YeuEmMaiMai

No, they are not a new unit. The problems with the transmission were not largely resolved until the unit got a new case design. 2004-06 TL transmission is exactly the same as the 01-03TL type S unit from a operational point of view. All of them have restricted oil passage issues. in the 04+ TL they do things like limit power available, adjusted timing/throttle during the shifting, etc...

jscoda

OK...the 04 06 TL is a possible swap. The 06-07 AV6 is a possible swap. The question is are the swaps more dependable than the original transmission?

I am in the midst of getting a used transmission for a swap and want the one who solves my problem. Comments?

thoiboi

Av6 is more dependable

YeuEmMaiMai

use the 07 accord trans.....

WHEEELMAN

iTrader: (14)

Rumor is the Torque Converter in the Odyssey Transmission is beefier, maybe internally only, than the Accord TC.

Anyone ever compared the 2 to see if the Oddy TC would be something to swap out while doing a 07 Accord tranny swap?

thoiboi

check here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...n-swap-905115/

Ahmed Nomaw

Thank Is not true my friend, and where are you getting your information form. I have installed a 06 TL transmission in my 01 CL-P, and it's running with no problems. Please get your facts straight before talking shit. You are miss leading people that really turn wrenches. So stop watching Youtube and get your facts straight.

Ahmed Nomaw

Both transmission will work, I can tell that cause I did the swap myself. very easy and painless.

Ahmed Nomaw

Look dude, I don't know where your getting your info from but please stop watching youtube. We really turn wrenches over here bro, no imaginary BS over here.

Ahmed Nomaw

Listen dude, I have done this swap myself. No shop did the work, now the only 5 things that have to be done is:
1. swap over your trans cooler located on top of the old trans ( reason why is the 04-06 trans cooler is facing backwards)
2. swap over the harness from the old trans ( reason is the 04-06 trans harness connectors are different from the 2g, all the connection to the sensors are the same but again the main connection to engine harness is different this why you have to reuse the 2G harness off your old trans.
3. The side trans mount has to be from a 2G ( reason is the 04-06 has a larger mount that will not mount the sub frame, You have to use the 2G).
4. The rear mount has to change also to a 2G ( same reason as above).
5. 2G trans range sensor ( reason is the 04-06 harness connector is different, reuse 2G range sensor off old 2G trans

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

To summarize (and to skip a lot of the noise); transmissions which *should* work:

• 2004-2006 Acura TL Automatic
• 2007-2008 Acura TL Automatic (excluding the Type-S models)
• 2003-2007 Honda Accord AV6 Automatic

01acls

Ahmed Nomaw, you need to learn how to read first before talking all this shit.

I said the 07/08 trans doesn't fit as in not work with the 2g TL.

Likewise, I was pointing out the differences in gear ratios in the form of a question so you would have to fact check in Post #5.

01acls

Horsesheoz and Ahmed Nomaw,

You guys need to stop spreading false information about the 3g tansmissions right now. There are 3 different transmissions for the 3g TL. If you don't know the difference keep your mouth shut or watch more YouTube videos.

Karanx7

iTrader: (2)

As someone who really turns wrenches, I'd say you're an idiot. Grow up and act your age, "bro."

No. Step down your confidence/arrogance and accept that you're wrong. Maybe then you can actually learn.

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

And here we have 01acls acting like an ass wipe yet again.

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Having checked a few different sources, I must amend the AV6 comment from above, apparently only 2006-2007 AV6 transmissions will fit.

Ahmed Nomaw

Ok, It seems like we have a guru here that done this swap a number of time already (come on mann)
I'm not saying that I know every single detail about the design of the transmission, however I have done 25 of these trans swaps on the 2G CL and 2G TL. And know enough to also convert them to manual as well. And no, that aint no youtube shit either bro.
And I was not taking shots at you so Relax, Lets educate the members on this site accurately enough for those who really need this info do their swaps.

Ahmed Nomaw

I am impressed to hear you out of all people to chime in, we are debating a discussion and having fun at the same time.
Sorry that you are bent out of shape over our discussion, and as far the age thing ; Relax Bro this aint what you want!
Lets keep this peace and educate others.

Ahmed Nomaw

There has been a few people emailing me about installing LSD in the AV6 and TL-S/CL-S manual trans. I have the answer to this matter, but I'm going to let you guys answer that for the people.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

The '03 CL-S/'06TL-S6 LSD differential anatomy shares all the same part #'s with the '06 AV6 differential anatomy except for the differential itself; therefore, the LSD from the CL-S6/TL-S6 should be transferrable to the '06 AV6 mainshaft because that shares the same part # between the two as well?

03 CL-S6:
https://www.acuraoemparts.com/auto-p...ferential-scat

'06AV6:
https://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com...NTIAL+%28V6%29

Karanx7

iTrader: (2)

Sorry that I had to correct your factually wrong answer. You said the 04-06 trans has the new design, which is wrong.

Don't worry about educating others, as you need to start with yourself, bro.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

Disregard the comment in regards to the 'mainshaft'. It has the same part #; however, it looks as if it has nothing to do with the differential point I was trying to make.

01acls

1. Not worth the time or money... It's FWD.

​​​​​2. Fine another mechanic.

3. LOL