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Old 10-09-2014, 02:22 PM
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05 AT TL vs 04 AT Maxima vs 14 Fiesta st

Next week will be the first time taking my tl to the track and im going to race against my two friends. The st has bov only, the maxima exhaust and i consider my tl stock even though i removed the intake resonator and the mid muffler. I think the maxima is the only one i need to worry but dont want to underestimate the st either.
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all 14-16 sec. cars.
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I'm so oblivious to Ford, I had no idea there was a Fiesta ST and my mind is now blown.
I think the TL will win the 1/4 mile against it.

is the maxima a 2.5 or 3.5?
Old 10-09-2014, 02:53 PM
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The maxima is 3.5 with 265 hp
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TL and Fiesta are stock if comparing to performance wise.


Post video of the race if you can
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Sure i will try to post them next weekend
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Regardless of the outcome, you have the best looking, nicest car of the bunch.
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If the Maxima is a SE (5AT) then it will be a close run. He may edge you out. If it is a SL (4AT) then I think you will have the edge. Good luck. The ST driven properly is a high 14 second car, but it is hard to achieve that time. You will take the ST IMO. I also work at a ford dealer and am in the sales dept. so I have a lot of drive time in the ST
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Ford's lower end (Focus, Fiesta) have some scary interiors.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Regardless of the outcome, you have the best looking, nicest car of the bunch.
Thanks. I havent introduced myself on the new member forum though. Hopefully i'll take some pictures today.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
If the Maxima is a SE (5AT) then it will be a close run. He may edge you out. If it is a SL (4AT) then I think you will have the edge. Good luck. The ST driven properly is a high 14 second car, but it is hard to achieve that time. You will take the ST IMO. I also work at a ford dealer and am in the sales dept. so I have a lot of drive time in the ST
The Maxima is 5 AT. I read that they are a little heavier than TL's so that might help a bit. It will be the first time at the track for the ST driver so maybe will take a couple of runs before he can do it properly.
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I would put my $$ on the Maxima but it wouldn't surprise me to see the TL come out on top. Also, I agree with Satin regarding the ST.
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In for the update
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^+1
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We are actally on our way to the track. Will be the Maxima and my Tl only, the ST couldnt make it. I will post a written outcome tonight and the video no later than tomorrow.
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So we ran two hits and i lost on both. I was really disapointed because I was skeptic about the horror stories about auto transmissions when drag racing but they are true. I did my best; vsa off, auto stick, press brake and rev it. The thing is that the car didn't let me rev more than 2k rpm so each start was really slow and the maxima jumped right away pulling one car ahead and stayed the same to the finish line. My best time was 16.8, I don't know if it is because sea level (3600 ft aprox) but I was faster back on my old mk4 gli (15.9).

After the second run we left the track and I told my friend about doing some pulls at the highway from 20 to 80 just to verify that the auto trans was the problem so we did a couple of runs. I was impressed to see the difference because at 20 miles and second gear I could pull away from him easily. We stopped at 80 miles but I'm sure the gap would've increased if we kept going.
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What was your trap speed? What did the Max run? 16.8 is pretty bad, even at 3600'. Where are you located?
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04 MAXIMA 5AT VS 05 ACURA TL 5AT: http://youtu.be/gVeXhv5pEvI
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this is the second run. i dont know why i just got half of the sheet.




this is the first run.
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that's my friends maxima waiting for a third run vs an evo x




My TL parked after the second run.
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Tip: if you just paste the YouTube link it will automatically add the video.
But damn that's slow, my buddies stock Si did a whole second faster.
The 3.2 isn't terribly slow as you can see by your highway pulls.

Without brake torquing or launching, even with miss shifts I managed to hit a 14.5. I think something is up, did you shift manually?
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If you guys had both had similar 60' times it would have been VERY close. And the fact you had the higher trap speed says your car is a little faster once it's in motion.
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Originally Posted by 1black_seven
Tip: if you just paste the YouTube link it will automatically add the video.
But damn that's slow, my buddies stock Si did a whole second faster.
The 3.2 isn't terribly slow as you can see by your highway pulls.

Without brake torquing or launching, even with miss shifts I managed to hit a 14.5. I think something is up, did you shift manually?
At this track stock Si's do mid-high 16's. I shifted manually. The problem was just the start. With brake torquing and the revs wouldnt pass over 2k rpm so that's what caused a really slow start. Do you have any suggestion or trick on how to improve the launch?
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
If you guys had both had similar 60' times it would have been VERY close. And the fact you had the higher trap speed says your car is a little faster once it's in motion.
Yes, thats what I thought too, so thats why we tried those highway pulls to prove it and my Tl ended up being way faster tan the Maxima.
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Originally Posted by SalMar
At this track stock Si's do mid-high 16's. I shifted manually. The problem was just the start. With brake torquing and the revs wouldnt pass over 2k rpm so that's what caused a really slow start. Do you have any suggestion or trick on how to improve the launch?
Your problem is brake torquing. You want to avoid that at all costs. The torque converter doesn't respond well to it. just floor it from a stop. that will yield your best 60ft time. Now on the maxima, brake torquing is the way to go as the torque converter responds well to it. Run him again at the track and try the new method. You will see a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
The torque converter doesn't respond well to it. just floor it from a stop. that will yield your best 60ft time.
^This.
When I went to the track, my best times came from just stomping the gas on the third yellow.
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2.95 60' yikes lol....nice job beating him from a roll though. Next time just mash the gas as already mentioned. Even if you drop that 60' to a 2.3 you will shave ~1 full second off your time.
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