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penetrating spray- wd or similar to creep into the threads,, a few times
If there is room-- put an impact socket on the bolt head, tap with hammer with different speeds-force, to vibrate its corrosion bond loose
Then use the socket and breaker bar, push right slightly as if to tighten
Sometimes that breaks the bond, Then lefty loosie
You are turning it LEFT while looking at top of bolt?
Use a heat gun and heat the housing as hot as you can (not the bolt). The idea is to expand the housing so it will release, so place the tip right on the housing and blow away from the bolt. If no heat gun try using a hair dryer... will take longer.
You should never have an issue removing any trans housing bolt. Always keep the socket 100% on the head of the bolt and not at an angle where it can twist off. Using a breaker bar is the safe bet to break the bolt free then a ratchet to finish threading it out.
I sure hope the op doesnt have threads broke off in the engine side!
I'm not really sure how or why, the rest of the bolts came out fine. Just those two that I had to fight every turn of it and yes the thread patern inside the engine block got stripped, hopefully I can re tap it. I hated when that's happened.
If the thread in the block is stripped, it sounds like that bolt had already been removed once before and maybe it was cross threaded when put back in. IE, already buggered
I think marc has it right. That sounds like it was forced/cross threaded the last time they were installed. If you can get your hands on a time-sert kit to repair the two holes, you'll have no problems. They are easier to use, and structurally more secure than a heli-coil. Call around to some repair shops, and you might find someone who'll let you rent you one. You will probably have to put up a $100-$200 deposit, as the kits are expensive. I'd be willing to bet that honda and acura have the tool, as they are referred to, by name, in several tsbs.
If you have time, and can't get something to repair the threads, pm me and I'll let you borrow what you need. You would need to leave a deposit on a credit card, and pay for whatever inserts you use, and any breakage if applicable.
Bought this car back in 2009 has 53k miles on it, transmission look original its has the VIN tag and everything match. Funny thing is that I just found out this tranny doesn't have the filler bolt to fill the transmission fluid, the only access is thru the dipstick. Wow I'm surprised. Anyway bought the car back in 09 has 53k miles and now only have 110k miles on it.
Thanks TLer, I got a buddy work at Honda, yesterday he came buy and took a look at it. He said he can borrow time-sert from work and let me use it if I needed. He said sometime if when lifted up to change the motor mount or any reason to lifted up the transmission or engine can cause damaged. Right now all I can say is hope for the best I guess.
There was a transmission recall/fix issued awhile back which put like a pump or sprayer or whatever on top of the original fill bolt. The purpose is to spray tranny fluid on the 2nd clutch pack or something to save (bandage) the failing tranny. When your tranny complete toast (even with that sprayer thing installed...mine did), Acura will replace with a revised tranny which I believe they build the sprayer thing inside and you get that filler bolt back. So if you have that spray pump thing, you will have to remove that to fill up.
2nd gen v6 Honda/Acura tranny is terrible...hope they fixed it on later models.
Thats why all the trans still fail/failed. The 2nd gen trans problem is the 3rd gear clutch pack not 2nd gear. They did nothing to improve fluid flow and pressure to the 3rd gear clutch pack in any of the fixes. The proper fix came when they redesigned the case in the newer models.
Bought this car back in 2009 has 53k miles on it, transmission look original its has the VIN tag and everything match. Funny thing is that I just found out this tranny doesn't have the filler bolt to fill the transmission fluid, the only access is thru the dipstick. Wow I'm surprised. Anyway bought the car back in 09 has 53k miles and now only have 110k miles on it.
It still has the fill bolt hole, You just have to remove the Oil Jet kit (which is put in the fill hole). Remove 1 (10 or 12mm bolt) bolt and the jet kit pulls straight up and out and that is where you still fill.
Originally Posted by randomwalk101
There was a transmission recall/fix issued awhile back which put like a pump or sprayer or whatever on top of the original fill bolt. The purpose is to spray tranny fluid on the 2nd clutch pack or something to save (bandage) the failing tranny. When your tranny complete toast (even with that sprayer thing installed...mine did), Acura will replace with a revised tranny which I believe they build the sprayer thing inside and you get that filler bolt back. So if you have that spray pump thing, you will have to remove that to fill up.
2nd gen v6 Honda/Acura tranny is terrible...hope they fixed it on later models.
Originally Posted by musiclevelz5
Thats why all the trans still fail/failed. The 2nd gen trans problem is the 3rd gear clutch pack not 2nd gear. They did nothing to improve fluid flow and pressure to the 3rd gear clutch pack in any of the fixes. The proper fix came when they redesigned the case in the newer models.
The Oil Jet kit WAS for a problem, It was for the 2nd gear shaft which is what the RECALL was for, and what the inspection was for. It sprayed fluid onto the shaft to keep it from getting to hot and breaking (which was what the less than 1% failure number was for) and locking up the trans. It was never designed for or to help the 3rd gear clutch pack issue, which nothing could be added to help.
Sonnax seems to have found some sort of solution that may help for those doing the rebuild
05-24-2015, 02:20 AM
