jb879123

yes, I will be doing it myself with the help of a friend. Wish me luck!

SpiderX1016

I wasn't feeling too good last weekend so I did it today. Mine wasn't leaking too bad. More of a seep actually.

This is only for the one behind the front pulley. I'm not good at taking photos so bear with me.

Tools needed:
Impact Wrench
19mm Socket
24mm Socket
Hammer
Snap Ring Pliers

1. Take off the pulley. Mark the pulley so you know which way to put it back. I stick a screwdriver in between and break it loose with an impact wrench and 19mm socket. A lot of the older guys at work just hold on to it. Not me, I don't want to risk injury so I use the screwdriver.


2. Take out the C-Clip using your Snap Ring Pliers.


3. Turn it around and hammer the shaft out.


4. Pry out the seal. I like these long reach bent nose pliers for this.


5. Start the new seal with your fingers (Seal can only be installed one way) and hit the new one in till it's flush. I use a 24mm Socket.



6. Hammer the shaft back in, Install the C-Clip and Re-install the pulley.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Dang...I wish I had thought to do this when I had mine off...great addition to the thread, thanks!
I'm guessing mine wasn't leaking from there though because even with just replacing all the other rings, mine is bone dry. If it springs up again, I'll end up swapping this one too.

J.

2k6ATL

Awesome DIY bro! I busted this out tonight. Job went perfect. I didn't have a leak or anything I just figured since I was doing a fluid change I might as well just do the seals.

3GTLCHICK

The o-ring didn't fix my whine, I may have to do this. Is this really worth it or should i buy a new 1?

SpiderX1016

Try to reseal it first. It's just $10 in seals.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

^^^yeah, exactly.

nycxecho

thanks for posting . great details DIY !

3GTLCHICK

I have a rebuilt pump that was kinda noisey from the start. I'm gonna have the orig one looked at. Thanks for the diy and advice.

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Not a problem, anytime.

candrews

A shout-out to rockstar143! -- After 4 Minnesota winters our PS pump was screeching pretty loud. I tried replacing the O-ring for the front hose to no avail so spent ~$30 and bought all the O-rings from OEMAcura. Total rebuild took under 2 hours and your instructions were spot-on. 100% better – PS is quiet as new!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Well thanks for the shout, out, man! You got ripped on the oring prices, but $30 isn't bad for a fix! I think I paid around $8 (I didn't get the external one that's pictured above)!!!

Glad to see the 3G garage helping people out!

candrews

Actually I only paid $10 for the o-rings but after a pint of Honda PS fluid + 2-day shipping it came to $30. Still a bargain considering a new pump is $278!

Shipit

About to do this job, thanks for he info it helps a lot. For others not so sure where the leak is coming from, use a UV dye made for engine oil like this one

Part 374
Put it in the PS reservoir then you can either move the steering wheel stop to stop for 2-3 min, I suggest you raise the car so you do not flat spot your tires, or use cardboard underneath the tires, better to raise the car. Take a black light that night and look for the leak if not detected drive for a couple days then recheck.
Hope this helps!!!

94eg!

^That seems a little silly if you think about it. If your leak isn't bad enough to see plain PS fluid, how on earth is dye going to help?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

^^^plus, rather than getting the flatspotting, couldn't you just go to a parking lot and drive around, or just drive and check in a few weeks. Good to know about the UV stuff though, in general!

Shipit

I agree I drove the car around for a couple days. The dye helps to find the smaller leaks and let's you know if the leak is on a hose, pump or both not for everyone but when your going nuts trying to find it can help keep your sanity.

REV HRD

Same fix appied on my 2G TL-S, it was hard to get to remove the inlet due to lack to room... Two parts 91345-RDA-A01; 91370-SV4-000 for the inlet & high pressure hose. Great post guys!!!

Sezniko

iTrader: (3)

Would this be helpful on my 2006 TL? It does not leak or make any sounds. When getting in and out of parking spots I have to fight the wheel sometimes. Hitting the gas frees it up. Seemed to do it everytime after a car wash. Had the pump replaced under extended warranty 3 times. I'm at 100,000 miles and took it in for over heating,weak A/C and power steering being tight. Dealer could not get it to act up on the P/S, but I can 1 out of 6 times in the parking lot but nobody would test drive with me. Suggestions?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I would suggest taking a look at your belt and maybe your tensioner assembly. Any chance it's slipping or not applying the proper tension to the belt would probably affect your AC and PS pump.

Sezniko

iTrader: (3)

So might be a good idea to change out my timing belts and water pump as per the 105K service suggestion?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

^^^NO, that's a different set of belts/tensioners...this one is outside the timing belt cover area and drives the accessory belt.

J.

tjmoneybags

My 04 TL with 98000 miles sat for about 3 months recently. I knew it prob needed the Oring because it makes the noise. I also had the throttle assembly sensor issue and it was stalling so often I quit driving it. Today I replaced the Sensor and fixed the stalling, and drove the car for about 30 minutes and ended up at a MCD's for a drink. The car started smoking horribly like it might catch on fire so I pulled into a car wash and it was coming from the back of the engine on the passenger side. I think it was PS fluid that had leaked.

Was everyone elses leak on the back of the engine? down to the exhaust?

OR...the PS hose was wet on the back of the engine too. It has not been fixed by the recall.

So, why is the hose recalled? does it leak? how do i know if its the pump or the hose?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

The pump is on the side of the engine and that's where mine was dripping from. That said though, I had already gotten the hose replaced as part of the recall.

speer432

Have the same whine described in thread, bubbles in reservoir, but no leaks. Changed out the o-ring on intake. Still whining after one day. How long does the bleed out take? Other possibilities?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

sure from pump? the power steering noise was like a screech...the tensioner pulley bearings is very annoying and sounds like a noisy supercharger!

speer432

yes, definitely the pump. Is it possible to have no fluid leaks but be sucking air?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I think I'd find that hard to believe, but yeah, maybe it's a dry o ring that's sitting higher than the constant flow of the fluids. Take a closer look, I'm betting it's leaking somewhere.

FredV

Nice will look this up when I service mine. Thanks

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Yes sir, all, keep reporting back. I'm sure we can build on all we find out to make this DIY better!

Lupo

I've been reading this thread, and it may pertain to my problem.....
I just got an 06' ATX. The power steering is very difficult when the car isn't moving, and revving up the engine a little makes it better. No whine, or air in the reservoir. Tensioner looks good. It looks like the PS pump is simply not providing enough pressure at idle. Doesn't look like there is a leak..
Would you recommend rebuild/replace of the PS pump a this point?

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Hard to say, man...but if the pump isn't doing it's job, I couldn't not see why not. Is there a retro for a bigger pump? I'm not familiar with ALX...is it full power steering? Sounds more like power assist.

Lupo

It's just an 06 TL automatic trans. I assume the PS system is the same as the 6speed....

Carter Fawcett

Thanks for the thread! It's a Godsend!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Anytime...
yeah, I'm sure all our PS systems are the same!

TheBumbino

Sucked it out with a straw thats ballsy haha. I would have used the turkey baster method.

LeggoMyEggo

Great write-up! did this last weekend with the help of the write-up and now my ps is silent again... Thanks rock!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

hey brother, that's what this site is for. Glad it worked out for you!


J.

Project 04TL

im going to give this one a shot while im replacing the belt and replacing the ps fluid .. all parts are on order from delray

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Agreed! PS...if you have fluid under the car, this is another place to check. It's a screwdriven clamp that you can see behind the passenger wheel. I cleaned it up and tightened down and fixed it.

J.