Changed starter still doesn't work
07-05-2013, 08:39 AM
#1
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Changed starter still doesn't work
I changed my starter and my car still won't start. I started a thread last week about my car not working any other idea whatnot could be. Dealer said it was starter and obviously he was wrong!! I need help
07-05-2013, 09:02 AM
#5
right, you cant blame the dealer if they didnt perform the work....
you cant blame us for "suggesting" a fix.
if its not the starter, you're going to have to trouble shoot yourself.
is battery good?
is battery connections good?
is starter good?
did install of starter go well?
is there any lights on the dash?
you cant blame us for "suggesting" a fix.
if its not the starter, you're going to have to trouble shoot yourself.
is battery good?
is battery connections good?
is starter good?
did install of starter go well?
is there any lights on the dash?
07-05-2013, 09:03 AM
#6
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Took the battery out and had it tested and its good. I did the replacement on the starter. The funny thing is I took the old starter out and had someone tested it and the starter has power?? I know kind of weird so if its not the starter or battery, what could it be? Relay? Ignition switch?
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07-05-2013, 09:17 AM
#8
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I didn't blame anybody for anything! I also assumed that it was the starter and I always work on my own cars and that's why I come to this forum for suggestions and its much appreciated!
07-05-2013, 09:30 AM
#10
Okay man, you need to give us alll the information:
YOU changed the starter? -Did you double check all your connections? Not only to the battery but to the starter itself? Especially the solenoid wire.
Your old starter had power? That doesn't surprise me,as it's usually the solenoid WITHIN the starter motor assembly that is the problem,however you can't replace the solenoid itself.
Is the battery clamped down tight? Are the connections clean and free of corrosion?
What does the car do when you turn the key? Do you hear a Click? Does it crank but not start? Does nothing happen at all? Are there any lights on the dash? Does the car even have power? Do the interior lights dim when you try to crank it? What kind of starter did you buy? Are you pressing in your clutch pedal when you try to start it? Not being an ass, it's just sometimes when I get excited I myself forget to do obvious things.
I guess what i'm really saying, you need to be more clear in what you're doing and what's happening.
YOU changed the starter? -Did you double check all your connections? Not only to the battery but to the starter itself? Especially the solenoid wire.
Your old starter had power? That doesn't surprise me,as it's usually the solenoid WITHIN the starter motor assembly that is the problem,however you can't replace the solenoid itself.
Is the battery clamped down tight? Are the connections clean and free of corrosion?
What does the car do when you turn the key? Do you hear a Click? Does it crank but not start? Does nothing happen at all? Are there any lights on the dash? Does the car even have power? Do the interior lights dim when you try to crank it? What kind of starter did you buy? Are you pressing in your clutch pedal when you try to start it? Not being an ass, it's just sometimes when I get excited I myself forget to do obvious things.
I guess what i'm really saying, you need to be more clear in what you're doing and what's happening.
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justnspace (07-05-2013)
07-05-2013, 09:47 AM
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Things to check in THIS order
1. Battery- take it out and LOAD TEST IT
2. Check for power at solenoid when the key is in the CRANK position
3. Find starter relay and test it
1. Battery- take it out and LOAD TEST IT
2. Check for power at solenoid when the key is in the CRANK position
3. Find starter relay and test it
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Nik83 (07-05-2013)
07-05-2013, 09:51 AM
#12
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Doubled check every wiring from starter to battery! Teated every wire connected to starter Checked the clamps on the battery( snug tight) when I turn the key over it does not make any noise just a single click when I step on the clutch all the way. All the lights in the dash are working fine
07-05-2013, 10:23 AM
#15
you started a brand new thread leaving out TONS of detail.
if you kept it in the same thread, then we can easily read whats going on, what your symptoms are, what you tried to do, where we went wrong, etc.
by starting a new thread, you're basically starting all over and have to re-state your details...
07-05-2013, 10:39 AM
#16
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I apologize, I am new to this forum and I'm just starting to get use to it and I find that this forum could be helpful if I just stayed on the same thread and aggravated at the same time trying to figure out what's wrong.
07-05-2013, 10:42 AM
#17
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Need more info- do all the accessories work when the key is on "acc", lights, radio, etc....? If so it is not a battery issue. Can you hear the starter solenoid "click" when you turn the key to "start"? If so the starter is engaging but not turning the flywheel, I think you said you heard the click so this might be the case. The engine isnt turning over for some reason, need to figure out why. Check all the fuses, I mean ALL of them- under hood and under dash. Might be a security system thing...
07-05-2013, 11:01 AM
#18
Need more info- do all the accessories work when the key is on "acc", lights, radio, etc....? If so it is not a battery issue. Can you hear the starter solenoid "click" when you turn the key to "start"? If so the starter is engaging but not turning the flywheel, I think you said you heard the click so this might be the case. The engine isnt turning over for some reason, need to figure out why. Check all the fuses, I mean ALL of them- under hood and under dash. Might be a security system thing...
NIK, you say you tested the connections..mind if i ask how?
07-05-2013, 11:03 AM
#19
I only knew cause im the one that called him on the double threads under different user names. lol, OP, you have to be more patient,we're not a retail shop that provides instant service and are just waiiiting for you to come and post a new thread. Just regular guys that want to help.
07-05-2013, 11:06 AM
#20
thats the thing tho; I dont recall.
you started a brand new thread leaving out TONS of detail.
if you kept it in the same thread, then we can easily read whats going on, what your symptoms are, what you tried to do, where we went wrong, etc.
by starting a new thread, you're basically starting all over and have to re-state your details...
you started a brand new thread leaving out TONS of detail.
if you kept it in the same thread, then we can easily read whats going on, what your symptoms are, what you tried to do, where we went wrong, etc.
by starting a new thread, you're basically starting all over and have to re-state your details...
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/2007-type-s-wont-start-sometimes-818417/
07-05-2013, 11:20 AM
#21
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Multimeter, I just went to turn the key again and now there is no single click it did before! All the lights on the dash works like normal did checked all the fuses under the hood and under the dash I am completely lost! I came to this forum to get help and you guys are doing a great job trying to help me out and this forum can help you save A LOT of money. Lol but any advice helps
07-05-2013, 11:36 AM
#23
Suzuka Master
As you are a manual.................Will it bump start? My money is still on the battery
07-05-2013, 11:46 AM
#25
Suzuka Master
One word answers are not going to help us diagnose your problem. what happens if you try and bump start it.
07-05-2013, 12:53 PM
#32
I assume the battery is good from the conversation, so with the lights on clutch depressed, engage starter and hopefully the lights stay bright and don't dim considerably, then go to the starter. You stated wiring is fine but noise is heard from starter, so if starter noise is heard when ignition turned to start, naturally with clutch depressed, starter problem.
If you have 12 volts at main, the solenoid value should be 12 volts with ignition to start and clutch depressed, so if still no turning, starter.
You can test the starter if it were out with jumper cables, positive to starter terminal, negative to starter housing and with a screwdriver touch the main post and solenoid contact to see if drive comes out and spins.
What's the brand of replacement starter?
If you have 12 volts at main, the solenoid value should be 12 volts with ignition to start and clutch depressed, so if still no turning, starter.
You can test the starter if it were out with jumper cables, positive to starter terminal, negative to starter housing and with a screwdriver touch the main post and solenoid contact to see if drive comes out and spins.
What's the brand of replacement starter?
07-05-2013, 08:11 PM
#33
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Thread Starter
Ok so I changed the starter and car still does not work. I jumped start and pop start it and nothing. All the lights in the interior and dash boards work as normal. I did check the starter by doing what the last post said to do and it worked fine. Tomorrow I will try the ignition switch and we'll see what happens from there. If anybody have any ideas please share lol
Thanks and bunch guys!!
Thanks and bunch guys!!
07-05-2013, 10:48 PM
#35
run a jumper between the starter "S" terminal and the battery and see if it tries to turn over. if so, then your problem is electrical and somewhere between your battery, fuses 22 and 23 (under hood), ignition switch, starter cut relay (under dash), and your clutch interlock switch.
start with the jumper and let's go from there.
start with the jumper and let's go from there.
07-05-2013, 11:12 PM
#36
Team Owner
I hate to ask this but when you push started it, was the key in the run position? The interior lights being on might not mean the battery is good but if they do not dim when you're trying to crank, it's not the battery.
Failure to push start eliminates the starter and more than likely the battery and clutch interlock.
Time to look upstream of the starter. Maybe something simple first such as the ignition fuse.
Failure to push start eliminates the starter and more than likely the battery and clutch interlock.
Time to look upstream of the starter. Maybe something simple first such as the ignition fuse.
07-06-2013, 05:49 AM
#37
is your immobilizer working properly? (does the green key flash and then go out when you turn the car on)?
