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Tonyware 07-24-2014 08:48 AM

Canada: Province of Quebec Bans Hellaflush Modifications
 
From Jalopnik (and it's not April 1st)...

http://jalopnik.com/the-fascists-in-...car-1609831093

"Hellaflush is a practice of cosmetic modifications that comes to the detriment of handling and road holding capabilities which consist of:

Lowering the suspension of the vehicle
Installing oversized and offset wheels (offset greater than of the stock wheels)
Installing tires too narrow for the wheels (tire stretching).

These modifications,that affect the geometry of the vehicles suspension, are generally observed by the presence of exaggerated negative camber. This is an overview of the principals of hellaflush and the reason this practice is prohibited."

WTF!!!

RPhilMan1 07-24-2014 09:30 AM

With the winter weather they have up there, I can understand why they'd want to do this.

350 07-24-2014 09:43 AM

Seems reasonable. I drove up there a month ago, the roads are terrible.

myron 07-24-2014 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by RPhilMan1 (Post 15093174)
With the winter weather they have up there, I can understand why they'd want to do this.

do you think that people drive like that in winter? Hellaflush with winter tires?

Undying Dreams 07-24-2014 10:26 AM

Now bring it to America!! :chuckle:

Ken1997TL 07-24-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by myron (Post 15093215)
do you think that people drive like that in winter? Hellaflush with winter tires?

Some idiot did exactly that and this is why we can't have nice things...

myron 07-24-2014 11:14 AM

^ I wonder how people are going to react to this after they had spent thousands of dollars on modifications. I know that wouldn't work here in Alberta. This is a truck central of Canada, people working in the oil fields and such, everyone drives a lifted truck with huge mud tires. that's changing the geometry as well

Belzebutt 07-25-2014 03:03 PM

The way I see it they're doing those people a favor: the road in Quebec are terrible.

I would think the main reason is to reduce insurance costs and liability due to potholes damages.

I personally don't care, I think this look is super tacky. Oh wait, this is one of those slippery slope things... "first, they came for the hellaflush, and I said nothing..."

justnspace 07-25-2014 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by myron (Post 15093383)
^ I wonder how people are going to react to this after they had spent thousands of dollars on modifications. I know that wouldn't work here in Alberta. This is a truck central of Canada, people working in the oil fields and such, everyone drives a lifted truck with huge mud tires. that's changing the geometry as well

does not compute.

trucks are made to drive over shit.

350 07-25-2014 04:04 PM

Trucks aren't Le Hellaflush so they should be fine. I do think it's illegal most places to have tires past the fenders since it can kick road debris up towards other cars, a lot of lifted trucks are like that even if they have fender flares.

parasitius 07-26-2014 10:27 PM

As with most laws I doubt there is any statistically significant study or real need behind this law, it's purely racial motivated with an "easy excuse" that it is so-called "for safety". I personally hate drugs even dope, but it is true that if you look into the history of why each substance was banned it was always racially motivated.

Canadians like to act all enlightened like they are less racist and prejudice than their southern better half. Well this is just proof to the contrary. Admit it - just like all of us whites down here, you all up in Quebec feel threatened when you see these "black" or "wigger"-style cars.

ttribe 07-26-2014 11:39 PM

^^^You post stupid comments.

parasitius 07-27-2014 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by ttribe (Post 15096468)
^^^You post stupid comments.

Typical lame-o or semi-illiterate internet response I get. No addressing of any of the actual issues I raise - just a straight character attack.

ttribe 07-27-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by parasitius (Post 15096497)
Typical lame-o or semi-illiterate internet response I get. No addressing of any of the actual issues I raise - just a straight character attack.

Semi-illiterate? Interesting. Perhaps, if you really do have a repeat of this experience, you should engage in some serious introspection. In other words, perhaps it's not everyone else; perhaps it's you, and changing your behavior would resolve the issue.

Literate enough for you?

justnspace 07-27-2014 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by parasitius (Post 15096497)
Typical lame-o or semi-illiterate internet response I get. No addressing of any of the actual issues I raise - just a straight character attack.

have you taken a look in the mirror lately?
the stuff you write is questionable and reflects upon your character.

Tonyware 07-27-2014 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by parasitius (Post 15096426)
As with most laws I doubt there is any statistically significant study or real need behind this law, it's purely racial motivated with an "easy excuse" that it is so-called "for safety". I personally hate drugs even dope, but it is true that if you look into the history of why each substance was banned it was always racially motivated.

Canadians like to act all enlightened like they are less racist and prejudice than their southern better half. Well this is just proof to the contrary. Admit it - just like all of us whites down here, you all up in Quebec feel threatened when you see these "black" or "wigger"-style cars.

Actually most of my buddies in Quebec who mod their rides are white. Come to think about it I haven't seen any black guys with mod cars around Montreal or the south shore or north in Laval. Believe it or not "race" doesn't come into play when car guys get together in Canada in general. The only black guy I know who is a car nut drives a WRX sti ... No need to mod that rocket!

I would love to invite you to M&M Fridays in Ottawa to see for yourself what I mean.

Regardless, nobody in Quebec is stupid to drive a lowered car in the middle of the winter. It puzzles me why the ministry of transportation introduced that rule. What they should have done and I believe they don't is what Ontario has done with safety certificates when you try to sell a used car or license a used car from a lot.

Just my 5 cents +HST

Ps. Also what Quebec should do is police the city highways for idiots who cross 3 lanes left and right during traffic hours and making a mess.

Edward'TLS 07-27-2014 03:30 PM

^^^^^

What is "M&M Fridays" ?

Belzebutt 07-28-2014 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by ttribe (Post 15096468)
^^^You post stupid comments.

That's racist.

fsttyms1 07-28-2014 07:54 AM

Sounds like More BS laws by out of touch politicians

Tonyware 07-28-2014 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Edward'TLS (Post 15096897)
^^^^^

What is "M&M Fridays" ?

This thread from an other forum will give you an idea...

http://maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155575

Probably the biggest car meet every Friday in Canada.

Black Tire 07-28-2014 09:34 AM

The rest of Canada hates Quebec because Quebec actually makes laws that make sense. They are a more conservative province and prices are lower than in Ontario.

Ken1997TL 07-28-2014 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by parasitius (Post 15096426)
As with most laws I doubt there is any statistically significant study or real need behind this law, it's purely racial motivated with an "easy excuse" that it is so-called "for safety". I personally hate drugs even dope, but it is true that if you look into the history of why each substance was banned it was always racially motivated.

Canadians like to act all enlightened like they are less racist and prejudice than their southern better half. Well this is just proof to the contrary. Admit it - just like all of us whites down here, you all up in Quebec feel threatened when you see these "black" or "wigger"-style cars.

I'll take 'Jumping to Conclusions' for 400, Alex.

myron 07-28-2014 10:43 AM

Black Tire, no the rest of the Canada hates Quebec because they are French.

ttribe 07-28-2014 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by myron (Post 15097604)
Black Tire, no the rest of the Canada hates Quebec because they are French.

And, Saintor?


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Marcelechka 07-30-2014 05:07 PM

Funny thread :rofl:


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