guitarplayer16

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someone posted pictures on facebook

I thought it'd be easy to catch on since I called it "white marble interior" also, guess i was wrong

turtlecivic

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My friend that made the trays for me. He made a couple of them for me but I didn't like any of them so he sold them before I can get a table I actually liked. I think I'm done modding for the year.

guitarplayer16

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it was some guy that spotted your car at an event

if my car was ever done up to your level I'd be done modding forever haha

turtlecivic

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They all spotted my car but nobody took interior pics. I'd say in a few years I'll make it into a track car.

Steven Bell

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Wow, look at that interior!

Shotgun3131

Can you fit a bottle of champagne in that center cup holder in the back?

turtlecivic

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Yup, that's what I used it for. I have a champagne bucket with ice.

Steven Bell

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Pictures of said champagne bucket with ice or it didn't happen!

N1h1l1ty

turtle, think you could share your actual offsets / disk types? I was thinking of trying to go static with 19x10 in the back and an aircup setup in the front to be able to clear speed bumps but I'm not sure on what the biggest dish I could fit in the front would be and still clear a BBK with XXs

turtlecivic

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First question is.. what are you trying to achieve? Stance? Hellalfush? Flush? None of my disc are R which are for BBK since both of mine are A disc. 19x10 offest? My offests are 18x10 +0 and 18x11 +12 I'm going a bit more aggressive next year for my build. Honestly, its not about the lip size its about barrel size.. that'll give you the clearance first and then you can go onto lip sizing. Please try and avoid 6.5inch barrel sizing. If you have anymore questions you can PM me I'll try and help you out.

N1h1l1ty

Thanks for the reply Turtle, I did a little research afterwards and realized I'd have to run R-disc in front to clear a BBK. I'd probably be leaning at hellaflush and slightly cambered (max -3 or -4). I'm not looking to go super aggressive, I just love the look of the VS XX (its one of the few deep dish wheels that tickle my fancy, I'm more of a concave guy) and want enough lip to please me I guess

Good to know that I should be looking more at the barrel size, I'll keep that in mind

If I did go the route of the VS XXs, I should say my main goal would be to keep the front as drive-able as possible, so I probably wouldn't stray past 19x9.5

turtlecivic

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Not a problem. Now the thing is... what coils are you running? You need coils that could handle the road to protect your wheels. BC with swift springs is what most people are running on the TL.

N1h1l1ty

That's actually exactly what I'm aiming for - BC with extreme low + higher spring rate, with air cups in the front for the sake of clearance

I'm currently running on Tein SAs but those are getting traded come the fall

turtlecivic

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Depending on how low you want to go... the perfect person to talk to is DecaFe1. I believe he was the first person to ride on BC with swift springs. Its pretty hard to find wheels with R Disc but I believe with A disc you would need a small spacer.

Oh Sickest TL

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Yes, yes they are

turtlecivic

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I was just checking wheelflip and someone in BC is selling step lip vsxx. He has r disc.

DecaFe1

Don't wanna derail your thread, but since you were offering assistance I'll give my input as well. Sounds like he wants to go low if he's willing to trade in tiens for bcs....but keeping camber moderate and only rolled fenders, I'd go low 20s in offset front and rear, assuming 9s and 10s in width. Tires will need to be stretched.

turtlecivic

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Its not a problem. I've experience fitment issues and I've tried to give much advice as possible. I was running 18x11 with a 6.5 inch barrel. I was rubbing against my coils and the locking were slowly removing pieces of metal.

N1h1l1ty

Thank you both for the assistance and wise input

I already know I can run a 19x9.5 +20 with a 225 tire on it in the front without too much additional work, beyond a slight pull and making sure the fender tab is shaved down completely (both of which I already have). I don't really want to run anything beyond -3 or -4 in the rear if possible, so I wouldn't really be aiming for a super aggressive setup like Turtle, likely keeping it to a 10 or 10.5 inch wide wheel, or even going square and running 19x9.5 +20 all around. I like being slammed but I also like at least some driveability

Again thanks for the awesome info, definitely food for thought for me!

EDIT: I should add that I'm likely looking at either Forgestar F14s in super deep concave, Weds Maverick 709M, or Leon Hardiritt Gemut, all of which can be done with fully custom offsets, and the main consideration will be figuring out what disk-type to run on the dished wheels to clear front BBK

Oh Sickest TL

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^ lol you joining cambergang?

N1h1l1ty

Perhaps

turtlecivic

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With 3 pc wheels (unless you're getting them new) you are very limited on offest. Every half inch you go with barrel or lip it +/-6.35. Lets say the wheels were 19x8 +41 and you want them to be 19x10 your offset is now +16

N1h1l1ty

Chances are I'd be going new, as the F14s I would be hard-pressed to find in the size and colour I want and the Mavericks and Hardiritts are just all around hard to find on the used market (and I like both of them more than I do the VS-XX )

turtlecivic

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Well... it takes time to find a nice set of wheels but if you rush it... you'll disappoint yourself. If you know which ones you want I can help you. Which Mavericks and Hardiritts model?

N1h1l1ty

Would be either the Maverick 709M or Leon Hardiritt Gemut. Pretty much only mesh that tickles my fancy. (oh I should add that I absolutely hate step lip and would only be looking at reverse).

turtlecivic

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All companies have a mesh version. Racing hart C2, Work Equip M1, Kenstyle Locksmice, SSR MS1 or AME FINS

usdmJON

I dont understand why you say you are limites to offset in a used 3 pieces?

I can now rebarrel my wheel whenever i want. I have complete freedom to rebuild them any way i want.

You can add barrel width which wont decrease offset or run wider lips which will decrease offset.

If you go xxr you are stuck with that offset until you sell the wheels and buy new ones.

You just made it sound like 3 pieces were a bad option here. That is in no way the case.

turtlecivic

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Lets say the wheels were 19x8 +41 and you want them to be 19x10 your offset is now +16. Someone people find this setup aggressive. This is why I said its limited. Someone people won't just a semi flush like 10.5 +22. How are you going to acheive that?

usdmJON

You will be 16 offset only if you run wider outers and keep the same inners.

If you go wider inners and leave the outer lip then you wont be 16 offset. Likewise if you change the outer for an inch larger lip and the inner to be an inch larger then your offset wont change.

Is that wrong?

turtlecivic

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Yeah but if someone wants 19x10.5 +22... how are they going to acheive that if the original wheels are 19x8 +41.

usdmJON

They could get extremely close by changing a combo of the inner and outer.


Or if need be they can get exact with a small spacer or machining the hub for a lower disk profile.

Does xxr offer ever single offset in increments of 1? Thats crazy if so. lol

turtlecivic

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I mean if you're really good with math you can go close to it with specs but with width ... all depends how wide they wanted to go. The most you can shave off is 5mm from the face.

usdmJON

The amount of back pad that can be shaved off is subjective.

A Work VSXX R disk has 17mm more back pad than the VSXX A Disk. The O disk sits in between. A shop can easily shave 17mm off an R disk effectively turning it into an A disk. Not sure why 5mm would be a universal number for all wheels.

Regardless. I understand what you were saying. Buying brand new XXRs you have the option to pick the specs verse buying ANYTHING used and/or private party you are stuck with what that private party is selling as is.

Except of course if you purchase on-line or in person at VRwheels or 3piece.us where you can pick the used wheels you want and they give you pricing for the as is set as well pricing to be rebarreled to ANY size you want. More options than XXR if you ask me.

turtlecivic

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I spoke with VRwheels and was asking them about shaving off back space of a wheel. They said they will only recommend 5mm.
Like you said with XXR you can only choose the offset they offer. But with 3 piece they can get it somewhat near the specs you want... depending on the disc of the wheels.

usdmJON

Maybe that was with the specific wheel at hand. But as stated, the VSXX for example R disk verse A disk is the same exact wheel minus 17mm of back pad. Shaving off 17mm of the R disk would be completely safe but definitely not recommended on the A or O disk VSXX.

I just cant for any reason recommend XXRs. You cant rebuild them and they have horrible resell value if you want to go wider later.

I guess I see it as the easy way out. Id rather rock authentic 3 piece wheels from a reputable group and rock a combination of camber, offset, lip to barrel ratio, and fender work to make them look as good or better than the XXRs that came with the "perfect" specs.

turtlecivic

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I totally agree with you with the resale value. If you get bored with the color of the face just get them powder coated for 200. If you spend a bit more you'll get most of your money back. Nothing beats classic wheels when the depends are always high.

turtlecivic

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These are the last pic I have of my car before winter mode. Enjoy.

Steven Bell

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turtlecivic

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I know I haven't been posting a lot on this forum but here is my progress for this year. Big things are coming next year so yall will have to wait. Enjoy the pics!








Here is a bonus!

MrRodgers96

dude that is really clean. do you plan on tinting the windows?