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Old 06-15-2010, 4:54 PM   #1
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03 TL-P to Type s swap Harness Question

Hey guys i have a 2003 Acura TL-P with about 260k miles.. i just came across a Type-s engine with 40k miles and will like to swap my old one out ...does anyone here know how to do this without having to swap out the harness as well??

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harnesses aren't that expensive. you'll need to have a connection to the IMRC and stuff

i just recieved mine friday i'll probably plug it in tomorrow
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You dont need to use a type s harness but then you would need to use a rpm window switch to control the butterfly in the manifold. I would say this route is easier because then you also dont have to get another module (i believe it is under the dash) from the type s to get the actuator to work.
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thanks guys... as far as sensors and stuff the type s doesnt have anything extra ?? i would only have to run the switch to control the butterlfy on the mani?? how would i run the switch?
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the switch doesnt work. it will open the valve but it wont close it (according to NSXNEXT who tried it) you can just leave it open, no harm done.

all you need is the ECU, type s engine harness (its not on the engine??) and the gauge cluster.

you wont have VSA aka traction control for the type s
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all you need is the ECU, type s engine harness (its not on the engine??) and the gauge cluster.
mine was cut. so i had to order a new one. i'll install it sometime later.
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that sucks, i got lucky, mine wasnt cut
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the switch doesnt work. it will open the valve but it wont close it (according to NSXNEXT who tried it) you can just leave it open, no harm done.

all you need is the ECU, type s engine harness (its not on the engine??) and the gauge cluster.

you wont have VSA aka traction control for the type s
If your gonna just leave the butterfly open there is no need to buy the type s wire harness becuase the only difference between the two harnesses is the extra wire that goes to the acuator. Also if you want the butterfly valve to open and close properly at another point in time you can just use a rpm window switch to control it.
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If your gonna just leave the butterfly open there is no need to buy the type s wire harness becuase the only difference between the two harnesses is the extra wire that goes to the acuator. Also if you want the butterfly valve to open and close properly at another point in time you can just use a rpm window switch to control it.
did you end up doing your swap?

how sure are you about the harnesses being the same? the type s harness was on the engine already, so i just plugged it into the type s ecu.

i have a 99-01 so maybe the harness is different between 99-01 and 02-03 tl-p's?

once again, the window switch doesnt work, it will open it but not close it according to NSXNEXT. did you get it to work?
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The harness came with my engine but was cut as well... ill just leave the flap open at all times and use my factory TL-P harness with the Type s ECU ...traction control isnt a must especially with the way our trannys are i aint planning on doing much dig racing just need it mid-range..
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Ya I did my swap and the harnesses on the 00-01 and 02-03 tl-p are the same. Also I am using a window switch and it works great it just doesnt close completely but close enough.
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I know that the harnesses are the same becuase my boy m1k3y3.2tl did the same swap with his 01.
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Hey by the way dc3328 does your car studder at all when your just cruising becuase my and mikes does I think it might be becuase we dont have the type s oxygen sensors.
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did you end up doing your swap?

how sure are you about the harnesses being the same? the type s harness was on the engine already, so i just plugged it into the type s ecu.

i have a 99-01 so maybe the harness is different between 99-01 and 02-03 tl-p's?

once again, the window switch doesnt work, it will open it but not close it according to NSXNEXT. did you get it to work?
window switch works great i got no problems with it. I used my tl-p harnesses with no problems thats all i got to say on this post.
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just installed my harness today, the old one was all cut up, but i got the new one on. had to take the intake manifold off but other than that it was easy.

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window switch works great i got no problems with it. I used my tl-p harnesses with no problems thats all i got to say on this post.
NSXNEXT needs to come in here and figure out what he's doin wrong then lol

3 type s swaps in florida, that's sweet,i hope you guys come down for the mega meet (date not set yet)
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NSXNEXT needs to come in here and figure out what he's doin wrong then lol

3 type s swaps in florida, that's sweet,i hope you guys come down for the mega meet (date not set yet)
yeah it is cool.. shit let me and reese know the date when you get one then we can see if we can make it down there
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will do

oh and I don't have any studdering at all, she's perfectly fine
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Thats weird that mine and mikes does the same thing, every now and then theres like a little studder while just cruising so I thought maybe yours might do it also. Do you have the type s oxygen sensors? I was told by acura that the tl-p had different oxygen sensors.
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nope, tl-p, only thing we swapped was engine, harness, ecu and gauge cluster

does it stutter when it shifts?
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No, only at like 1300 rpms just cruising and it only happens sometimes. Maybe its becuase we dont have cats.
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Hey guys, just finished swapping out my TL-P engine with the Type-S.. it started after a few try's and i used my factory harness. took me about a week because of work but i finally got it done, just waiting on my Type-s ECU that i order which should be getting here today then off to the dealer to get it re-flashed or w.e it is you need to do to get it to work on my TL-P. i didnt take much pictures but ill have some finished result pictures soon to show. thanks for your help guys.
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what's with all the mikeys lol
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We're EVERYWHERE! lol hey what part of S. FL you live at? i stay there too havent seen that many hooked up TL's around??
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