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Originally Posted by swoosh

...50 mph runs
This is a topic that I plan to be addressing soon in my diet thread.

The diet has it's greatest advantage at take-off speed. From take-off, the weight advantages slowly diminish as you reach 100 mph. This is because the diet is all about reducing inertia. But as you gain speed (toward 100+ mph), the biggest obstacle to acceleration is wind resistance and not so much inertia.

From a dead stop, I *feel* (an emotional statement, not factual) that nothing but a Z06 can touch me from 0-60 mph. But doing a 100-140 mph run is not spectacular. Still quicker than a 6MT oem TL, but nothing reflective of my dominating presence from 0-60 mph.

Other than high speeds will kill, I also avoid high speed runs because it is not my forte (strong point).

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^^^ hahah aaah.....

i love 50-110 mph runs....@ 50 you are at the top of 2nd and its fun from there....but good to know about the weight disadvantage at high speeds....

the only point i wanna make is (even at 2600-3000 lbs) we still weight a lot lot more as compared some other cars out there....then why do we get hit by the disadvantage and not the other cars....
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Originally Posted by swoosh
the only point i wanna make is (even at 2600-3000 lbs) we still weight a lot lot more as compared some other cars out there....then why do we get hit by the disadvantage and not the other cars....
Gearing?

I have no problem running from a roll or a dig. Its all the same to me.
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^^^ hey now, am trying to learn from the man how do I steal the advantage....

but last time you dyno-ed how much did you put down ?
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Before my new exhaust and headers, 294/275 at the wheels on a Land & Sea dyno (similar to a DyonJet from what Ive read).

Hopefully by the time the Nat'l Meet roles around, Ill be tuned and pushing ~325/300 at the wheels

But, take dyno numbers with a grain of salt. Each dyno reads differently. They are only a tool in measuring what you've gained from mods, not bench racing with people online. The first time I strapped the car to the dyno with the stroker was before the intake and exhaust mods, I put down 281/257.

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^^^ holy shit !!! 325 is gonna be awesome....

i am really really hoping i will be past 300 by the time the meet comes around....i have something under my sleeve....if that pulls off well i might have WMI (water meth injection) and another couple HP/TQ....

lets see how everything goes....
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S/c'er? If so, NOOOOOOOOO! That adds a good amount of weight right at the front end of the car.
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^^^ LOL am not ready for FI, just yet....

but working out a deal
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You get deals everywhere don't you lol.
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^^^ live by a simple rule bro....whats the worst that will happen "they will say no".....

i called em and told em hook me up.....and she did

they were charging me $20 to ship the harness but free shipping on the seats and i was like "can you please just thro the harness in the seat's box? pleaseeee"

saved me another $20....i work too hard for this $$$ aint gonna give it away for free
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Always try to get a deal. Just being nice to people will get you a hook up, its worked for me on multiple occasions.
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Nice! Way to work the system.
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Originally Posted by swoosh
^^^ hahah aaah.....

i love 50-110 mph runs....@ 50 you are at the top of 2nd and its fun from there....but good to know about the weight disadvantage at high speeds....

the only point i wanna make is (even at 2600-3000 lbs) we still weight a lot lot more as compared some other cars out there....then why do we get hit by the disadvantage and not the other cars....
There are few if any legal production cars in the 2,600lb range. The light weight is still going to help a lot in the upper speeds, just not as much as down low. When I put my car on a diet and went from a little over 3,400lbs stock to barely over 3,000lbs, it improved at every speed, very noticeable. I'm not sure where the biggest difference was because it's never been to the track since the weight loss. I think if traction wasn't an issue up to 120mph, the 0-60 or even 0-100mph would be the largest change which is perfect for the street. At part throttle, the <100mph was greatly improved, more than the higher speeds. If I ever take it to the track again where I can put the power down, it will be obvious. Everything Inaccurate says makes sense though.

Which brings me to the next point. I think we all need to harass Inaccurate about a small boost in power like maybe a "little" turbo for a moderate 100hp boost. Aluminum intercooler piping, small intercooler (or no intercooler with meth injection) since it will only run low boost. Internal wastegate which adds only 1lb or so. No BOV since it's not needed especially on an auto. If you were really careful, the entire kit could come in at under 50lbs. That would boost the top end performance. Or maybe just a small "fogger" shot.

Just to clarify the weight savings helps at all speeds but will have less and less of an effect the higher you go. I guess I could have just said the one sentence lol.
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^Do the DBW systems close the throttle during shifts? If so, wouldn't you need a BOV?
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Originally Posted by gwiffer
^Do the DBW systems close the throttle during shifts? If so, wouldn't you need a BOV?
No, but with a turbo on a Honda auto tranny, it's recommended to lift between shifts.
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DBW definitely closes throttle on shifts
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Originally Posted by pohljm
DBW definitely closes throttle on shifts
Did not know this.


Back to the 2G side I go
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^^^If that's the case, isn't it better since you wouldn't have to think to lift foot off gas?
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Under the crushing torque of the turbo, the 5AT will still break regardless of lifting or not.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr


Always try to get a deal. Just being nice to people will get you a hook up, its worked for me on multiple occasions.
^^^ words of wisdom from a wise man learned that the way, i did....

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Nice! Way to work the system.
not really working the system....you are basically trying....

i remember when i was flying from Philippines to Dallas....i asked the lady if she had any 1st or business class seats....and flirted with her a little bit....and bam, flew 1st class from Tokyo Narita to Dallas....for the first time i wished the 13 hour flight was a little longer

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There are few if any legal production cars in the 2,600lb range. The light weight is still going to help a lot in the upper speeds, just not as much as down low. When I put my car on a diet and went from a little over 3,400lbs stock to barely over 3,000lbs, it improved at every speed, very noticeable. I'm not sure where the biggest difference was because it's never been to the track since the weight loss. I think if traction wasn't an issue up to 120mph, the 0-60 or even 0-100mph would be the largest change which is perfect for the street. At part throttle, the <100mph was greatly improved, more than the higher speeds. If I ever take it to the track again where I can put the power down, it will be obvious. Everything Inaccurate says makes sense though.

Which brings me to the next point. I think we all need to harass Inaccurate about a small boost in power like maybe a "little" turbo for a moderate 100hp boost. Aluminum intercooler piping, small intercooler (or no intercooler with meth injection) since it will only run low boost. Internal wastegate which adds only 1lb or so. No BOV since it's not needed especially on an auto. If you were really careful, the entire kit could come in at under 50lbs. That would boost the top end performance. Or maybe just a small "fogger" shot.

Just to clarify the weight savings helps at all speeds but will have less and less of an effect the higher you go. I guess I could have just said the one sentence lol.
LOL you could have but am glad you didnt.....Matt, that does sound a very very viable option....put down 370-380 using a turbo while gaining 50-60 lbs upfront which i bet will help keep the tires planted LOL....

I do want to get to around 2900-3000 lbs....and then add some weight depending on what route i take

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^Do the DBW systems close the throttle during shifts? If so, wouldn't you need a BOV?
Originally Posted by civicdrivr
No, but with a turbo on a Honda auto tranny, it's recommended to lift between shifts.
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DBW definitely closes throttle on shifts
Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Did not know this.


Back to the 2G side I go
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^^^If that's the case, isn't it better since you wouldn't have to think to lift foot off gas?
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Under the crushing torque of the turbo, the 5AT will still break regardless of lifting or not.
common reply

recently while driving my car (went on a joy ride....dont tell FCVADI )....the car was absolutely insane....it felt like there was a beast trying to break loose....the throttle response was crazy....for the first time i thought the Redline fluid was gonna fail me and i wish i had a dual clutch tranny....it was shifting awesome and i could feel the jerks....and i started lifting while shifting....totally awesome.....

started the car after 2 weeks today expecting the same to happen....no bueno....the car was not as aggressive....and that made me sad .....

on the bright side....insurance on my car is back ON (from tomorrow) and will be driving my car regularly.....it will be mostly city driving but hey thats where the fun is when you on a diet
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Originally Posted by swoosh

the car was not as aggressive....and that made me sad .....
There is a cure for that......

TAKE OFF MORE WEIGHT


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will be driving my car regularly.....it will be mostly city driving but hey thats where the fun is when you on a diet
Now you're talking. This is tied to you not being happy with your "test drive". I hate test drives because they are not truly indicative of the real performance. During a test drive, a person is looking to hard and expecting too much.

To me, I just wait for my next normal daily commute. This is the acid test. When your mind is off of it, that is when you can truly evaluate things. "Damn, I never hit this speed before thru this section".
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^^^I totally agree with that statement!
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
There is a cure for that......

TAKE OFF MORE WEIGHT

Now you're talking. This is tied to you not being happy with your "test drive". I hate test drives because they are not truly indicative of the real performance. During a test drive, a person is looking to hard and expecting too much.

To me, I just wait for my next normal daily commute. This is the acid test. When your mind is off of it, that is when you can truly evaluate things. "Damn, I never hit this speed before thru this section".


haha....more weight loss in on its way

and you are right again....i think when i took my car out yesterday, i was expecting too much of her....this morning while coming to work, she was splendid....i wasnt expecting much....and it turned out amazing.....

i might just walk back to the parking garage and apologize to her

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^^^I totally agree with that statement!
dude if i had to use this statement for every statement Tim has made, i would have 4129 more post
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alright fellas....i got you folks a good deal....

this prolly will last for another week or 2 weeks....they only have 4 set's of racing seats and seat belts left.....I ordered 1 of that haha.....so if you need in on the deal, PM me....

For $530 shipped....
2 x NRG 12lbs FRP seats
2 x 2" 4 point cam lock racing harness
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All hardware
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^ Alright guys make sure you only buy 2 sets.... i'm broke and will need 2 weeks to try to come up with the cash lol.
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btw that is not only for us (on Azine)....its on the interwebz.... LOL
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Damn Anil, I missed this thread completely, just a month or so old and already 10 pages . Cool to see you venturing out into no mans land lol, I'm surprised you sold all your PnP and Maxbore TB stuff...

Just reading this last page and am now thinking to start the diet. I've been driving all this time locally with the spare tire, both sets of floor mats and other extra weight in my car while getting a PnP
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That's a killer deal, man...wow, 500 bucks and you will have full racing seats. Nicely done, man!
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Damn Anil, I missed this thread completely, just a month or so old and already 10 pages . Cool to see you venturing out into no mans land lol, I'm surprised you sold all your PnP and Maxbore TB stuff...

Just reading this last page and am now thinking to start the diet. I've been driving all this time locally with the spare tire, both sets of floor mats and other extra weight in my car while getting a PnP
hahaha yeah dude its actually awesome....i used to get 18-19MPG ALL city driving without revving past 2000-2200 rpm....now am shifting at 2700-3000 rpm and damn still getting 21mpg all city !!!

highway's i used to get 32-33 mpg which dropped to 28 after all the mods....and now its back in the 30's....so there are many other advantages of losing the wanted weight.....

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That's a killer deal, man...wow, 500 bucks and you will have full racing seats. Nicely done, man!
Thanks Jer.....I called those people this morning and they said they have only 1 set left they sold quickly at that price.....



Something funny happened at work today....

as I entered the parking garage....the exhaust sounds very very intimidating....i was actually use it like a horn LOL....

there were cars parked on both sides as i was driving up the ramp....i threw her in neutral and revved it past 4500 rpm couple times (quickly).....one of the car's alarm went off....I was like

next time am gonna record that haha.....

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Setting off car alarms in the parking garage with just normal throttle application is pretty much a daily thing for me with the Single 3".
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^^^My friends used to do that in high school...
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^^^ Tim....i knew you would do that on a daily basis LOL....took my wifes lexus to work for a week and cudnt wait to start driving my car hahaha.....

@ Jer....you mean to say we are old and immature ???
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anil, if by chance you get around to working your charm on a deal for braille batteries let me know.. I am in the market for two of them... I acutally asked around but no one ever wants to give me a deal, but I aint a people person
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Originally Posted by swoosh
hahaha yeah dude its actually awesome....i used to get 18-19MPG ALL city driving without revving past 2000-2200 rpm....now am shifting at 2700-3000 rpm and damn still getting 21mpg all city !!!

highway's i used to get 32-33 mpg which dropped to 28 after all the mods....and now its back in the 30's....so there are many other advantages of losing the wanted weight.....
You should see what happens when you raise compression
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