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Old 11-07-2013, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by maharajamd
The SRS system carries a lifetime warranty, fyi.
For seat belts. Not for negligence.

I tried going that route. They told me if it was a seat belt related issue, I would be covered. Otherwise it was on me.
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"I would have paid $200+ to get the SRS system diagnosed"

They may want to charge you for a "mechanical" fix but you wouldn't have to pay for the diagnosis. This is especially true because any SRS issue means airbags don't deploy.

I assume this is because you swapped interiors?

http://owners.acura.com/Documentum/W...s/BWL35759.pdf

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Originally Posted by maharajamd
"I would have paid $200+ to get the SRS system diagnosed"

They may want to charge you for a "mechanical" fix but you wouldn't have to pay for the diagnosis. This is especially true because any SRS issue means airbags don't deploy.

I assume this is because you swapped interiors?

http://owners.acura.com/Documentum/W...s/BWL35759.pdf
I had SRS lights on in both vehicles for the same reason. When I went to the dealership to get a quote on what it would cost to get them off, I was told I would have to pay an hour of labor for each diagnostic, and then if nothing was tangibly wrong it would be applied towards the "fix". In my case, I would have had to bring both vehicles separately, pay for the diagnostic fees, have them applied towards the SWS calibration procedure for both vehicles (takes at least 20 minutes per vehicle, involves driving the vehicle around, stopping, waiting, etc), and then pay for at least two hours of labor anyways.

SRS systems aren't warranted against owner negligence which is what happened in this case from me swapping my interiors. Nothing was inherently wrong, but it's still time and labor.

If it would have been the seat belts, warranty would have likely covered it. I couldn't play the "I don't know, they just came on" card with both of my cars. Maybe if it was just one.
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So is there any way to recalibrate my factory throttle body to get rid of the rev hang??

Or no.
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Originally Posted by colindunn
So is there any way to recalibrate my factory throttle body to get rid of the rev hang??

Or no.
Are you talking about the innate rev hang that 6MTs have?
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will this help me with my idiotic dorman TMPS sensor refusing to play nice problem.
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Originally Posted by oneglory
will this help me with my idiotic dorman TMPS sensor refusing to play nice problem.
I tried this on my car using dorman tpms and it was a no go not even with the hds. I was thinking I was doing something wrong and went to the dealer and they wasn't able to get it to work too so I went oem.
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yeah I don't think the hds is going to solve any tpms related issues, it will just tell you what is wrong. i believe it will tell you if the tpms is not communicating but that is pretty self explanatory anyways.

btw, there is an internal part number for the tpms that multiple car manufacturers use. cheaper to get a new one this way rather than going through the dealership. just have to make sure it's the correct frequency.
Old 11-07-2013, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JJH
yeah I don't think the hds is going to solve any tpms related issues, it will just tell you what is wrong. i believe it will tell you if the tpms is not communicating but that is pretty self explanatory anyways.

btw, there is an internal part number for the tpms that multiple car manufacturers use. cheaper to get a new one this way rather than going through the dealership. just have to make sure it's the correct frequency.
It let you change tire setting for different tire presure
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Originally Posted by JJH
Are you talking about the innate rev hang that 6MTs have?
Yes haha
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It might correct it a little bit^ Hard saying, I've got my 3.7tb and a 14lb lightweight flywheel.
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Originally Posted by rubenders
I tried this on my car using dorman tpms and it was a no go not even with the hds. I was thinking I was doing something wrong and went to the dealer and they wasn't able to get it to work too so I went oem.
god damnit.
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Your post threw a monkey wrench into my plans.

Issue: Dorman tpms isn't communicating properly with the car. Solution, get it reset at the dealer for whatever it's going to cost - some say it'll be $100 - $150.

so now it's

1. get new OEM tpms sensors, pay for them to get installed probably around $100 - $150.
2. try and get these dorman ones reset at the dealer (now i see someone has tried and failed) probably like $100 - $150
3. this tool which someone used on their odyssy ..tool is $150.
4. or now this HDS/HIM method, this seems to be $150 too.

thank you for adding to my dilemma, haha.
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Originally Posted by JJH
btw, there is an internal part number for the tpms that multiple car manufacturers use. cheaper to get a new one this way rather than going through the dealership. just have to make sure it's the correct frequency.
lets say I wanted to go with an aftermarket tpms sensor but with the same frequency, where should I shop for them?
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
lets say I wanted to go with an aftermarket tpms sensor but with the same frequency, where should I shop for them?
Don't get the dorman ones...
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The dorman operate at the same frequency but but but. The frequency the the tpms unit use to activate the sensor is different every time the ecu WAN tire information the tpms unit one on every fender and quarter panel send a signal to the sensors and the sensor answer with information like tire pressure and tire temperature the ecu just display the pressure. I learned that using my hds with my dorman tpms every time I was programming it it say nor respond from sensor.
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Originally Posted by rubenders
The dorman operate at the same frequency but but but. The frequency the the tpms unit use to activate the sensor is different every time the ecu WAN tire information the tpms unit one on every fender and quarter panel send a signal to the sensors and the sensor answer with information like tire pressure and tire temperature the ecu just display the pressure. I learned that using my hds with my dorman tpms every time I was programming it it say nor respond from sensor.
so it is unable to wake the sensor up properly is what you're saying.
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HDS is also the delivery company Ace Ventura used as an alias to rescue the stolen dog in the opening sequence of Pet Detective.

AAAAAALLL RIIIIGHTY THEEEEEN.
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Originally Posted by oneglory
so it is unable to wake the sensor up properly is what you're saying.
Yes.
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Do you have to have the power cable plugged in?

Basically you have to run an extension?

I plugged it into my laptop and the OBDII port and it lit up but no work...I would have to get an extension now...
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No, no power cable required. It gets power from the OBDII port. More information please on what you're experiencing. Follow the instructions in my post, you have to change the com port to 1 from the default 3
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Originally Posted by JJH
No, no power cable required. It gets power from the OBDII port. More information please on what you're experiencing. Follow the instructions in my post, you have to change the com port to 1 from the default 3
I already changed the port to COM1.

I have a 2008 Accord....
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the link i just put on is the intraction for the hds you may need to sync you hmi with the program
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2 questions:
There is a crankshaft position adjustment required after doing the TB? Any more info on this?
Also, I don't see any idle screw adjustments on my stock TB, or is it only on th 3.7 TB?


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Type-S's don't?!

What about the Base TL?

I have a 2008 Accord lol
The governor is only on automatics for 07-08, which include base and type S. 04-06 has no governor, auto or manual. And 07-08 type S no governor as well
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What HDS would you need for a 05-09 Acura RL?
Old 11-15-2013, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
2 questions:
There is a crankshaft position adjustment required after doing the TB? Any more info on this?
Also, I don't see any idle screw adjustments on my stock TB, or is it only on th 3.7 TB?
I will have to look at my stock TB. Not sure if it does or not. I don't see any reason why you would want to adjust it though on an automatic with stock TB.

As for CKP, allegedly that is just a step that Honda throws in after anything that involves engine work. Similar to how the service manual requires you to unplug your battery before changing a light bulb etc. A Honda tech commented earlier and said it's not necessary. But for what it's worth, the service manual does have this as a step listed during the timing belt change.

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What HDS would you need for a 05-09 Acura RL?
This one. It's good for all Honda/Acura vehicles from 2002-2009.
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well, sadly this did not fix the bucking issue with the 3.7 TB. It still jerks hard in 1st/2nd gear at low speed when letting off the throttle, and 3rd/4th gear still have a noticeable jerking when letting off the throttle from 1-3% - DomGSR had the same results and I wanted to confirm.

voltage adjusted from .92 to .88 and ran both of the inspection processes under PGM FI > ECMS (TACS) (sp?). The first one I ran was the limit check, which passed just fine. Then I ran the valve angle inspection that made some interesting clicking/buzzing sounds from the TB (as Gerzand advised it would do), and then went to drive the car around.

I'm fresh out of ideas on the 3.7 bucking issues. Neither FlashPro or HDS seem to help.
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^well with 320whp a little buckling is worth it!
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
^well with 320whp a little buckling is worth it!
i wish i could laugh at that but the reality is I am constantly shifting gears in order to keep the car from bucking - whenever i want to just take my foot off the pedal as i speed up and down in traffic, the only way to avoid the jerking is to depress the clutch. I spend way more time in neutral than I should now too.

my throwout bearing is going to fail on me a lot sooner now due to how i have to compensate in order to drive the car smoothly.


.........but yes, at WOT some of that is made up for
Old 12-11-2013, 10:40 PM
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hmmm do you know what verison that doesn't require you to log into honda network to do the ECU programing/swap?
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HDS tool to the rescue again.

VSA/ABS/exclamation point lights came on the other day. Blindsided with this since you can't normally figure out the cause without taking it to the dealership and having them read the code. Turns out my right rear wheel speed sensor went out. HDS tool saved me another $80 for the DTC reading fee that dealerships normally charge.

Happy New Year all!
Old 01-02-2014, 08:24 PM
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is this the HDS Tool?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBD-Tuning-HDS-Cable-OBD2-Diagnostic-Cable-for-Honda-/190801021973?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item2c6ca08c15&vxp=mtr

And i'm guessing the HDS (Like the HIM), works on 3G TL's 04-06?

And does the HDS program key immobilizer?
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thats just a cable
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Picked one up for 117. Came with 2.027 and 2.018. Hopefully I won't need to log Honda interactive network with it.
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So just to clarify. The HIM can reprogram a new ECU to my vin number as well as sync the immobilizer to it? Or is that the HDS? The reason I'm unclear is because I asked a seller of the HIM on eBay and they said it couldn't.
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can't do without connecting to the honda database. It think I am going to sell mine with the usb to serial cable. Unless I can get verison 2.027. looks like all the 3.xx version suck
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Does anyone know if this version software works with 4G TL's??
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Is there a way to connect to the honda data base without working for honda?


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