The Multiple Benefits of Owning an HDS/HIM Tool - Everything You Need to Know
10-19-2013, 10:20 AM
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The Multiple Benefits of Owning an HDS/HIM Tool - Everything You Need to Know
What is an HDS tool?
HDS stands for Honda Diagnostic System and is the software that Honda uses for diagnosing/managing higher level engine components and systems such as fuel, SRS, CKP, etc.
Traditionally OBDII scanners do not allow this level of functionality. In order to run this software to communicate with your vehicle, you must have an HIM (Honda Interface Module). Think of the HIM as a foreign language translator between you and your car.
So what I can do with it?
Well, I've found multiple uses in only the couple days of owning it.
-Syncing ODS (occupant detection system) and SWS (seat weight sensors) with my car after doing my interior swap and eliminating my airbag lights
-Relearning my CKP pattern (crankshaft position). This is a required step after doing the 105k service that most people skip over.
-Adjusting and initializing my ZDX 3.7 throttle body with my vehicle. More on this later.
-Diagnosing some electrical mirror actuator problems
-Completely clearing my ECM with the push of a button and not having to pull the battery cable for 10+ minutes
-Diagnosing bad TPMS sensors
-Monitoring knock
So How I Get Started?
Easy. You need to pick up one of the cheap Ebay units such as this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111085500209...S:1123&vxp=mtr
I picked this one up. Software version is irrelevant because you can find and download nearly any version of the software. The above comes with 2.027 which what I used and worked for me.
Next, you need to check and see if your computer has an RS232(serial) port. If it does, this will be very plug and play for you. If it doesn't, you're going to have to pick up an RS232 to USB adapter to communicate with the HIM.
I picked up this one:
You're not quite there yet. You're going to have to change the communication protocol to COM1. By default it will either be COM5 or COM6 unless those ports are already being used by another device on your computer.
Start by going to the Device Manager. Once there do the following:
Expand the Ports ‘(COM& LPT)’
You should be looking at something like this:
Right click on the device and click on ‘Properties’.
Click on ‘Port Settings’. Then click on ‘Advanced…’.
Once you’re in ‘Advanced Settings for COM10’ on the bottom you can see the ‘COM Port Number: COM10’. Click on that to change it to COM1
You must complete this step in order to connect with the HIM. Everything else is very plug and play and you should be able to connect to your HIM unit and vehicle with no problem. Once the HIM connects to your vehicle, you're going to be prompted with a vehicle information screen that asks you to enter your mileage and a R.O. Number. R.O. Number stands for Repair Order number. You can enter ANY 6 digit number and it will work.
HDS stands for Honda Diagnostic System and is the software that Honda uses for diagnosing/managing higher level engine components and systems such as fuel, SRS, CKP, etc.
Traditionally OBDII scanners do not allow this level of functionality. In order to run this software to communicate with your vehicle, you must have an HIM (Honda Interface Module). Think of the HIM as a foreign language translator between you and your car.
So what I can do with it?
Well, I've found multiple uses in only the couple days of owning it.
-Syncing ODS (occupant detection system) and SWS (seat weight sensors) with my car after doing my interior swap and eliminating my airbag lights
-Relearning my CKP pattern (crankshaft position). This is a required step after doing the 105k service that most people skip over.
-Adjusting and initializing my ZDX 3.7 throttle body with my vehicle. More on this later.
-Diagnosing some electrical mirror actuator problems
-Completely clearing my ECM with the push of a button and not having to pull the battery cable for 10+ minutes
-Diagnosing bad TPMS sensors
-Monitoring knock
So How I Get Started?
Easy. You need to pick up one of the cheap Ebay units such as this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111085500209...S:1123&vxp=mtr
I picked this one up. Software version is irrelevant because you can find and download nearly any version of the software. The above comes with 2.027 which what I used and worked for me.
Next, you need to check and see if your computer has an RS232(serial) port. If it does, this will be very plug and play for you. If it doesn't, you're going to have to pick up an RS232 to USB adapter to communicate with the HIM.
I picked up this one:
You're not quite there yet. You're going to have to change the communication protocol to COM1. By default it will either be COM5 or COM6 unless those ports are already being used by another device on your computer.
Start by going to the Device Manager. Once there do the following:
Expand the Ports ‘(COM& LPT)’
You should be looking at something like this:
Right click on the device and click on ‘Properties’.
Click on ‘Port Settings’. Then click on ‘Advanced…’.
Once you’re in ‘Advanced Settings for COM10’ on the bottom you can see the ‘COM Port Number: COM10’. Click on that to change it to COM1
You must complete this step in order to connect with the HIM. Everything else is very plug and play and you should be able to connect to your HIM unit and vehicle with no problem. Once the HIM connects to your vehicle, you're going to be prompted with a vehicle information screen that asks you to enter your mileage and a R.O. Number. R.O. Number stands for Repair Order number. You can enter ANY 6 digit number and it will work.
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10-19-2013, 10:30 AM
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Why you NEED to own an HDS if you've got the 3.7L throttle body.
The HDS allows you to calibrate new throttle bodies specifically for your vehicle. Before having this calibration, I had parking lot bucking, very touchy pedal, inconsistent idle return when coming to a stop (car would go down to 1200RPMs and then 750RPMs), and shifting felt like shit because of the exaggerated rev hang caused by the throttle body.
After adjusting the throttle body, all of these problems disappeared and the car drives/shifts/sounds like it should. I hated how the car sounded in between shifts with the exaggerated rev hang.
Short and simple, you're going to adjust the idle screw found on top of the throttle body while monitoring the "data lists" variables in the HDS found under the PGMFI menu. 3.7 throttle position sensor A value should read .90-.92 by default. You need to turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise until that voltage drops to .88. After doing so, you're going to run two different calibration/inspection procedures found in the same PGMFI menu. Your problems should disappear after this.
If you have more questions specifically pertaining to this, just ask in the thread. I didn't get into super specific details.
The HDS allows you to calibrate new throttle bodies specifically for your vehicle. Before having this calibration, I had parking lot bucking, very touchy pedal, inconsistent idle return when coming to a stop (car would go down to 1200RPMs and then 750RPMs), and shifting felt like shit because of the exaggerated rev hang caused by the throttle body.
After adjusting the throttle body, all of these problems disappeared and the car drives/shifts/sounds like it should. I hated how the car sounded in between shifts with the exaggerated rev hang.
Short and simple, you're going to adjust the idle screw found on top of the throttle body while monitoring the "data lists" variables in the HDS found under the PGMFI menu. 3.7 throttle position sensor A value should read .90-.92 by default. You need to turn the adjustment screw counterclockwise until that voltage drops to .88. After doing so, you're going to run two different calibration/inspection procedures found in the same PGMFI menu. Your problems should disappear after this.
If you have more questions specifically pertaining to this, just ask in the thread. I didn't get into super specific details.
10-19-2013, 10:34 AM
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HDS and SRS Lights
For the last 2 months, I was baffled why I had SRS lights after doing my interior swap from vehicle to vehicle. I had swapped the OPDS modules as many suggested and not turned on the key in my vehicle and had the battery unplugged. I didn't think I was ever going to figure it out.
Turns out that our cars not only have an ODS (occupant detection system) module that is individually synced to one cars ECU, they also have a SWS (seat weight sensor) system that is synced too. I only swapped the ODS. I'm not even sure where the SWS system is to be honest, I know it's in the passenger seat somewhere though.
When I plugged in the HIM tool, I received 81-71 code which said SWS not initialized. I simply had to follow the on screen instructions to sync the SWS and my airbag lights disappeared and haven't came back! It was that simple.
For the last 2 months, I was baffled why I had SRS lights after doing my interior swap from vehicle to vehicle. I had swapped the OPDS modules as many suggested and not turned on the key in my vehicle and had the battery unplugged. I didn't think I was ever going to figure it out.
Turns out that our cars not only have an ODS (occupant detection system) module that is individually synced to one cars ECU, they also have a SWS (seat weight sensor) system that is synced too. I only swapped the ODS. I'm not even sure where the SWS system is to be honest, I know it's in the passenger seat somewhere though.
When I plugged in the HIM tool, I received 81-71 code which said SWS not initialized. I simply had to follow the on screen instructions to sync the SWS and my airbag lights disappeared and haven't came back! It was that simple.
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10-19-2013, 02:58 PM
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That's a good question. Gerzand and I did this same calibration on his car with FlashPro. Since the Throttle position voltage is mechanically adjusted by the screw, I think it would still benefit you. I don't know how the calibration will interact with FlashPro maps though. He hasn't had a chance to drive his car yet to see if there is a difference.
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10-19-2013, 11:58 PM
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there is only one thing that the hds will let you desable is the ingector .if you dasable the ingector with the hds and close the program and turn off the car it wong start till you go back with the hds and enable the ingectors .
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10-20-2013, 12:14 AM
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What is an HDS tool?
HDS stands for Honda Diagnostic System and is the software that Honda uses for diagnosing/managing higher level engine components and systems such as fuel, SRS, CKP, etc.
Traditionally OBDII scanners do not allow this level of functionality. In order to run this software to communicate with your vehicle, you must have an HIM (Honda Interface Module). Think of the HIM as a foreign language translator between you and your car.
So what I can do with it?
Well, I've found multiple uses in only the couple days of owning it.
-Syncing ODS (occupant detection system) and SWS (seat weight sensors) with my car after doing my interior swap and eliminating my airbag lights
-Relearning my CKP pattern (crankshaft position). This is a required step after doing the 105k service that most people skip over.
-Adjusting and initializing my ZDX 3.7 throttle body with my vehicle. More on this later.
-Diagnosing some electrical mirror actuator problems
-Completely clearing my ECM with the push of a button and not having to pull the battery cable for 10+ minutes
-Diagnosing bad TPMS sensors
-Monitoring knock
So How I Get Started?
Easy. You need to pick up one of the cheap Ebay units such as this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111085500209...S:1123&vxp=mtr
I picked this one up. Software version is irrelevant because you can find and download nearly any version of the software. The above comes with 2.027 which what I used and worked for me.
Next, you need to check and see if your computer has an RS232(serial) port. If it does, this will be very plug and play for you. If it doesn't, you're going to have to pick up an RS232 to USB adapter to communicate with the HIM.
I picked up this one: Amazon.com: Plugable USB to RS-232 DB9 Serial Adapter (Prolific PL2303HX Rev D Chipset): Computers & Accessories
You're not quite there yet. You're going to have to change the communication protocol to COM1. By default it will either be COM5 or COM6 unless those ports are already being used by another device on your computer.
Start by going to the Device Manager. Once there do the following:
Expand the Ports ‘(COM& LPT)’
You should be looking at something like this:
Right click on the device and click on ‘Properties’.
Click on ‘Port Settings’. Then click on ‘Advanced…’.
Once you’re in ‘Advanced Settings for COM10’ on the bottom you can see the ‘COM Port Number: COM10’. Click on that to change it to COM1
You must complete this step in order to connect with the HIM. Everything else is very plug and play and you should be able to connect to your HIM unit and vehicle with no problem. Once the HIM connects to your vehicle, you're going to be prompted with a vehicle information screen that asks you to enter your mileage and a R.O. Number. R.O. Number stands for Repair Order number. You can enter ANY 6 digit number and it will work.
HDS stands for Honda Diagnostic System and is the software that Honda uses for diagnosing/managing higher level engine components and systems such as fuel, SRS, CKP, etc.
Traditionally OBDII scanners do not allow this level of functionality. In order to run this software to communicate with your vehicle, you must have an HIM (Honda Interface Module). Think of the HIM as a foreign language translator between you and your car.
So what I can do with it?
Well, I've found multiple uses in only the couple days of owning it.
-Syncing ODS (occupant detection system) and SWS (seat weight sensors) with my car after doing my interior swap and eliminating my airbag lights
-Relearning my CKP pattern (crankshaft position). This is a required step after doing the 105k service that most people skip over.
-Adjusting and initializing my ZDX 3.7 throttle body with my vehicle. More on this later.
-Diagnosing some electrical mirror actuator problems
-Completely clearing my ECM with the push of a button and not having to pull the battery cable for 10+ minutes
-Diagnosing bad TPMS sensors
-Monitoring knock
So How I Get Started?
Easy. You need to pick up one of the cheap Ebay units such as this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111085500209...S:1123&vxp=mtr
I picked this one up. Software version is irrelevant because you can find and download nearly any version of the software. The above comes with 2.027 which what I used and worked for me.
Next, you need to check and see if your computer has an RS232(serial) port. If it does, this will be very plug and play for you. If it doesn't, you're going to have to pick up an RS232 to USB adapter to communicate with the HIM.
I picked up this one: Amazon.com: Plugable USB to RS-232 DB9 Serial Adapter (Prolific PL2303HX Rev D Chipset): Computers & Accessories
You're not quite there yet. You're going to have to change the communication protocol to COM1. By default it will either be COM5 or COM6 unless those ports are already being used by another device on your computer.
Start by going to the Device Manager. Once there do the following:
Expand the Ports ‘(COM& LPT)’
You should be looking at something like this:
Right click on the device and click on ‘Properties’.
Click on ‘Port Settings’. Then click on ‘Advanced…’.
Once you’re in ‘Advanced Settings for COM10’ on the bottom you can see the ‘COM Port Number: COM10’. Click on that to change it to COM1
You must complete this step in order to connect with the HIM. Everything else is very plug and play and you should be able to connect to your HIM unit and vehicle with no problem. Once the HIM connects to your vehicle, you're going to be prompted with a vehicle information screen that asks you to enter your mileage and a R.O. Number. R.O. Number stands for Repair Order number. You can enter ANY 6 digit number and it will work.
10-20-2013, 12:27 AM
#16
like jjh wrote on the firts post if you are one of the du it your self guys you need to invest in this it will save you money on trobleshooting and or initialising any any component .if you invest and you need some clue on how to trobleshoot any component pm me i can help you i have the 07 -08 tl trobleshooting guide . and thanks to jjh for putting this togather .
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10-20-2013, 12:49 AM
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I thought people had mostly, if not all of the way, fixed the bucking problems by using the MAP sensor that was on the new throttle body and grinding the tabs down?
I'd still find it really useful.
Is that link you provided the exact one you purchased? I was hesitant in the past to pick one up due to all the chinese knock-off crap and didn't want to buy one and then have something that didn't work.
Sent a PM about the software lol..
10-20-2013, 12:53 AM
#18
Are you using your original MAP sensor or the MAP sensor that came with the ZDX throttle body? I'm in the process of doing this, was meaning to pick up a HDS for a while.
I thought people had mostly, if not all of the way, fixed the bucking problems by using the MAP sensor that was on the new throttle body and grinding the tabs down?
I'd still find it really useful.
Is that link you provided the exact one you purchased? I was hesitant in the past to pick one up due to all the chinese knock-off crap and didn't want to buy one and then have something that didn't work.
Sent a PM about the software lol..
I thought people had mostly, if not all of the way, fixed the bucking problems by using the MAP sensor that was on the new throttle body and grinding the tabs down?
I'd still find it really useful.
Is that link you provided the exact one you purchased? I was hesitant in the past to pick one up due to all the chinese knock-off crap and didn't want to buy one and then have something that didn't work.
Sent a PM about the software lol..
I swapped my MAP sensor from my 3.5 to my 3.7 and I still had the same problems that I described above. I never had a chance to drive with the 3.7 map sensor. I didn't like how the car ran before proper adjustment.
10-20-2013, 06:57 AM
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The HIM interface is outdated to say the least. there have been multiple changes in honda interface since the HIM(HIM was used until 04-05 when the HDS Tablet was released). the HIM is incredibly slow and struggles with f-can/B-can communication due to the speed of transfer needed, and with HDS version 3 software out now it pretty much makes older versions obsolete.
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
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10-20-2013, 07:31 AM
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The HIM interface is outdated to say the least. there have been multiple changes in honda interface since the HIM(HIM was used until 04-05 when the HDS Tablet was released). the HIM is incredibly slow and struggles with f-can/B-can communication due to the speed of transfer needed, and with HDS version 3 software out now it pretty much makes older versions obsolete.
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
10-20-2013, 08:26 AM
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The HIM interface is outdated to say the least. there have been multiple changes in honda interface since the HIM(HIM was used until 04-05 when the HDS Tablet was released). the HIM is incredibly slow and struggles with f-can/B-can communication due to the speed of transfer needed, and with HDS version 3 software out now it pretty much makes older versions obsolete.
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
As for the CKP relearn, I was just following the service manual procedure. I can definitely see the danger of using this with such a slow data connection. This is the same reason that Hondata didn't release FlashPro for the 04-05 crowd.
Thanks again.
10-20-2013, 08:38 AM
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P.S - If anyone is weary of getting bad software versions, you can rent the software DIRECTLY from Honda for $10/day.
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.asp
http://estore.honda.com/service-expr...scriptions.asp
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/logon.asp
http://estore.honda.com/service-expr...scriptions.asp
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10-20-2013, 12:04 PM
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I wasn't aware of these issues so thank you for letting me know. I guess as with any mod, there is always an implied risk. My thoughts behind you saying that the software is old is so are our cars. Our cars are 6 + years old and this was all that was available at that time. This fixed a few different issues for me that had been bugging me and something I would have paid the dealership an hour of labor to fix for me.
As for the CKP relearn, I was just following the service manual procedure. I can definitely see the danger of using this with such a slow data connection. This is the same reason that Hondata didn't release FlashPro for the 04-05 crowd.
Thanks again.
As for the CKP relearn, I was just following the service manual procedure. I can definitely see the danger of using this with such a slow data connection. This is the same reason that Hondata didn't release FlashPro for the 04-05 crowd.
Thanks again.
It's true that this was around when our cars (3rd gen) came out but honda has always had a problem with the cars being smarter than the diagnostic software to monitor them with.
In the past 7 years iv'e seen 4 changes in how we diagnose honda/acura systems. it's been frustrating to say the least.
I think they have finally got it! I hope. If anyone has questions regarding software or usage of the system don't hesitate to ask.
10-20-2013, 01:52 PM
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no problem! just sharing my experience professionally with this set-up. my comments weren't meant to stray anyone from using these by any means. sometimes i think i come off that way unintentionally.
It's true that this was around when our cars (3rd gen) came out but honda has always had a problem with the cars being smarter than the diagnostic software to monitor them with.
In the past 7 years iv'e seen 4 changes in how we diagnose honda/acura systems. it's been frustrating to say the least.
I think they have finally got it! I hope. If anyone has questions regarding software or usage of the system don't hesitate to ask.
It's true that this was around when our cars (3rd gen) came out but honda has always had a problem with the cars being smarter than the diagnostic software to monitor them with.
In the past 7 years iv'e seen 4 changes in how we diagnose honda/acura systems. it's been frustrating to say the least.
I think they have finally got it! I hope. If anyone has questions regarding software or usage of the system don't hesitate to ask.
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10-21-2013, 09:34 AM
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I couldnt imagine modding the TL without some sort of access from these tools. Luckily I work at a Honda dealer with some really good techs but anyone who has just more than a few bolt ons should consider doing this to keep everything running nice and smooth.
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Thanks for all the information, I think I might just get one since I want to reprogram the new ECU, and I want to resync some new keys. That is itself pretty much paid for the until already.
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The HIM interface is outdated to say the least. there have been multiple changes in honda interface since the HIM(HIM was used until 04-05 when the HDS Tablet was released). the HIM is incredibly slow and struggles with f-can/B-can communication due to the speed of transfer needed, and with HDS version 3 software out now it pretty much makes older versions obsolete.
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
One thing to know about HDS software is that is is constantly updated by Honda to fix issues in the software. Updates used to come via CD, with the introduction of GEN3 HDS software, all updates are downloaded directly form the Honda Interactive network.
Another issues i've seen is ECM/PCM damage, improper idle learn, ghost coding, among others.
CKP/CMP learn is not needed on the 105k service. only time its needed is if cam/crank sensors are replaced, unplugged for extended periods of time, issues with cam/crank phasing. Honda puts that step in everything as they do with disconnection of negative battery cable as the first step in every repair.
not saying it's not an option to use but i'd be weary of bad software versions.
Were are now on version 3.002.08..
11-06-2013, 12:35 PM
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Firstly, HDS does so much more than what's been named and unless you do lots of mods that require programming/relearn/calibration, it's not worth the $1000+ required to run the setup.
You can buy a Launch X431 that does everything the HDS software plus more with nearly all other makes/models at less than half that cost on eBay. HDS is great for conversions/swaps that require security and immobilizer programming and that's about it. It's an easily duplicated software and today there are about a dozen company's that have replicated it almost perfectly.
You can buy a Launch X431 that does everything the HDS software plus more with nearly all other makes/models at less than half that cost on eBay. HDS is great for conversions/swaps that require security and immobilizer programming and that's about it. It's an easily duplicated software and today there are about a dozen company's that have replicated it almost perfectly.
11-06-2013, 01:19 PM
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11-06-2013, 05:49 PM
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Firstly, HDS does so much more than what's been named and unless you do lots of mods that require programming/relearn/calibration, it's not worth the $1000+ required to run the setup.
You can buy a Launch X431 that does everything the HDS software plus more with nearly all other makes/models at less than half that cost on eBay. HDS is great for conversions/swaps that require security and immobilizer programming and that's about it. It's an easily duplicated software and today there are about a dozen company's that have replicated it almost perfectly.
You can buy a Launch X431 that does everything the HDS software plus more with nearly all other makes/models at less than half that cost on eBay. HDS is great for conversions/swaps that require security and immobilizer programming and that's about it. It's an easily duplicated software and today there are about a dozen company's that have replicated it almost perfectly.
$128=/=$1000+
I'm well aware of what the software does as I have spent hours with it
I only listed applicable uses for our vehicles. For people like me who: 1) Needed to calibrate the throttle body
2) Had (2) separate vehicles with SRS lights for unknown reasons(would have cost me a diagnostic fee for both vehicles and then the calibration for the seat weight sensors for both vehicles)
This has already paid for itself. I would have paid $200+ to get the SRS system diagnosed and wouldn't have the ability to calibrate my throttle body and the vast amount of other things that I'm able to do. It's awesome for enthusiasts like myself.
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11-07-2013, 07:39 AM
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The SRS system carries a lifetime warranty, fyi.
