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Old 10-18-2011, 03:03 PM
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Arrow I'm new. What is the cheapest way to add horsepower?

Im new to all this and I dont know a ton about modifications. I just bought a 2005 6sp manual Acura TL about 2 weeks ago.
What should i buy to increase the horsepower on my TL? Im only 19 so i dont have a huge budget. I just want to know what would be some small purchases that i could buy right now until i get a better job.
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^i would save your money man.

modifying cars is not cheap, especially when you don't have disposable income.

the TL is a fairly expensive car to mod when you think about the $$$ VS power return.

if you don't like any of what i said, just spend some time reading some threads in this section. plenty of good info.
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Okay, What do you think would be a good first purchase for my stock tl, and how much would i have to save?
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browse some, all your questions have been answered before
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i dunno, what do you want out of your TL? power right?

get richies v3 jpipe. it costs around $450 i think.

i would honestly just read through this section and find some things you like. you'll probably find your answer faster that way.
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Okay cool ill try searching around. Thanks
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XLR8 V2 J-Pipe

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-494454.aspx
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Originally Posted by TLmalloy
Okay, What do you think would be a good first purchase for my stock tl, and how much would i have to save?
Intake. Cold air preferably. Get on ebay and buy a used AEM V2, Injen, or Takeda intake. All will yeild you 10 to 15hp plus give you better mpg's when your foot isn't heavy.
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^dont think so.
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
Intake. Cold air preferably. Get on ebay and buy a used AEM V2, Injen, or Takeda intake. All will yeild you 10 to 15hp plus give you better mpg's when your foot isn't heavy.
Please don't listen to this guy.

CAI will not increase 10-15hp. It will not increase MPG to be even noticeable, maybe .000001%.
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Please don't listen to this guy.

CAI will not increase 10-15hp. It will not increase MPG to be even noticeable, maybe .000001%.

Maybe not even that much.
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browse some, all your questions have been answered before
Shit, I'm shocked nobody has told him to replace the 3rd and 4th pressure switches and switch to Redline. That seems to be the standard answer for everything.

Bob: "My wife won't let me stick in her......."

Member (interrupting): "Dude, replace the switches, use Redline"
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^^ HAHA that was classic
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
Intake. Cold air preferably. Get on ebay and buy a used AEM V2, Injen, or Takeda intake. All will yeild you 1.0 to 1.5hp.
this is what he really meant..lol
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Originally Posted by dece207
Shit, I'm shocked nobody has told him to replace the 3rd and 4th pressure switches and switch to Redline. That seems to be the standard answer for everything.

Bob: "My wife won't let me stick in her......."

Member (interrupting): "Dude, replace the switches, use Redline"
Well..... actually some Redline would be helpful in this case. Just saying.
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100$ : 1hp ratio.

Unless you install several bolt-on power modifications at once or get boosted, you're not going to notice a significant power increase.

Start by getting a rear sway bar (Comptech, Progress, Type-s, etc.). I guarantee you will feel a difference in handling/cornering.

If youre willing to spend almost 500$ on an exhaust bolt on modification, go with either the XLR8 V2 J pipe, or RV6-V3 J pipe (theyre practically identical).

Heat and Weight kill the TL's performance, so if there is anything you can do to reduce the weight by a hundred pounds (and still maintain the overall look of the car), you'll notice the car aquired some spunk.

Cold air intakes wont effect the performance of your car, but they will add a roaring sound around 4k+ rpms.

Also, I just turned 17, and let me tell you, being jobless sucks. I've had to do so many one day side jobs (for my dad and his friends) to get the 700$ of parts I've got on my baby. I don't regret any of it, and its definitely been a great experience putting on mods and learning all about the TL on this forum.

Anyway, to answer your question, a J pipe that removes the 3rd cat will probably be your best Dollar to Horsepower ratio. (the 2 pipes I stated above)
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Originally Posted by Inaccurate
Well..... actually some Redline would be helpful in this case. Just saying.
Now that's funny.

Wife: "Honey, why is there a Redline truck in our driveway?"
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
Intake. Cold air preferably.
i'm partial to the hot air intakes myself. moar power and they're hawt at wot.
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Please don't listen to this guy.

CAI will not increase 10-15hp. It will not increase MPG to be even noticeable, maybe .000001%.
The proof is in the dump of the untamed they make for the TL. Don't disparage me rudely like a sophomoric kid. For the money HP/$ an intake is the way to go.
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^uhh no.


for the money, a jpipe would be better.
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
The proof is in the dump of the untamed they make for the TL. Don't disparage me rudely like a sophomoric kid. For the money HP/$ an intake is the way to go.
I mean this in only the most constructive of senses, but I would like to see a dyno chart of CAI only vs J-PIPE only, net hp gain/cost comparison to back your statement up.
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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
The proof is in the dump of the untamed they make for the TL. Don't disparage me rudely like a sophomoric kid. For the money HP/$ an intake is the way to go.
Sorry, man, but...no.You get some good low-end response (in my opinion), it sounds great...but the gains are minimal at best. Don't confuse low end throttle response for big HP gains. :/You aren't pulling any more air through than usual. I don't have all my terminology perfect here, but some of you may get what I'm saying. (I'm tired...were we having this convo later in the day I would be fine!)
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Originally Posted by j-rogsuperstar
Sorry, man, but...no.You get some good low-end response (in my opinion), it sounds great...but the gains are minimal at best. Don't confuse low end throttle response for big HP gains. :/You aren't pulling any more air through than usual. I don't have all my terminology perfect here, but some of you may get what I'm saying. (I'm tired...were we having this convo later in the day I would be fine!)
No you are pulling more dense are though which yields more hp. A j-pipe will give more power but this 19yo is low on cash so i doubt a 300 to 400 dollar j-pipe plus install cost is in his definition as being low-cost. That was the arguement i was making. Good day.
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There was a thread that was stickied at the top of the forum for a long time:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=aem+dyno

It's a before and after dyno of the regular AEM CAI and CT Catback on a base TL. The car made 22 whp more. We all know the exhaust is only good for 10 whp and the CT-E has smaller piping that both ATLP and XLR8. So where did the other 12whp come from? THE INTAKE. I'm not saying it makes 15 whp but you can expect 8-10 whp for the cold air intake on the TL 3.2/3.5.
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where as a 300 dollar intake makes 1-2hp.
in essence, the better buy would be the jpipe.
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
So where did the other 12whp come from?
http://youtu.be/aCbeutFkN8I

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Originally Posted by ParaSurfer1979
Intake. Cold air preferably. Get on ebay and buy a used AEM V2, Injen, or Takeda intake. All will yeild you 10 to 15hp plus give you better mpg's when your foot isn't heavy.
No F*ing way...
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I've never heard of an intake making mor ethan a few whp/trq. A jpipe is the best route.
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An AEM V2 CAI was my first mod and while it was fun to install, fun to WOT with, and I'm decently happy with it.... the power gains don't compare to what I got from exhaust mods. At all.
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The AEM V2 sounds like it adds about 50hp!!! Any real proof on HP add on UR Crank pulley???
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lol @ the post on cold intake making more than 10 HP. The only difference that intake make is the sound and good low-end response. Get j-pipe or precat.
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or you could get a cheaper cold intake around 150 like that dc sport one its preety much the same as the rest of em. that would be straight first mod thats not to expensive.
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excelerate is right it makes up to 10whp depending on application. i ran a homedept cold air with a panty hose filter and it was fast.
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OMFG....

once and for all....

Exhaust side only opens up the horsepower....if the TL makes 268 at crank, by adding whatever exhaust setup you will NEVER surpass 250-255 to the wheels as you are not MAKING power on the exhaust side, your freeing up HP....

Intake side makes power as the ECU keeps the AFR constant so more AIR = more FUEL = more POWER = less gas mileage....(applies until a certain point)

Since the OP is strapped on cash I would suggest DO NOTHING...Do free mods....

UCM (Ultimate cooling mod)
Coolant Bypass
Tranny Cooler ($100)
Throttle body spacer ($70)
MDX Spacer ($70)
Some weight loss maybe ?

and Call it a day....

Once you accumulate some more $$$ you can get a jpipe/PCD's/Exhaust/Intake/PnP manifold runners etc
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Being 19 yr old, i am pretty sure 250+HP is enough already~~~how fast do u really want to go?

just my 2 cents
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like everybody said save your money. i was 19 too and i spent every incoming penny on my tl. def dont get an intake. if you were to get anything, get an exhaust makes your car look better, sound better, and few hp gain. i recommend greddy evo2


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