JessicaTaylor

I have a passion in speed. I was wondering how much potential modding 3rdgenTL has??

justnspace

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depends how deep your pockets are, Jessica

ggesq

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You bought the wrong car if your passion is speed.

Like Justin stated above, it depends on how deep your pockets are.

Welcome to AcuraZine.

screaminz28

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Instead of a cryptic reply without specifics, this could be used as an opportunity to shed light on the power potential of the 3G TL /J32.

N/A - stock - 220 - 240 whp

N/A with 'breather mods' e.g. intake, IM, TB, PCDs, J pipe, full exhaust - 260 - 285ish? whp

FI

Supercharged - stock with supercharger - 270ish

Supercharged with breather mods - 300 - 330ish

Turbo - stock with turbo - is there really such a thing? J&R bolted on kit - ~ 350ish @ 8 - 10PSi

Built motor w/ 12 - 18psi ~ 450 - 500 whp

Note that very few people (here on AZ at least) have stock motors with FI (of any sort) that has had much longevity. Most have built the motors.

Do those numbers sound reasonable to everyone?

KN_TL

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I'm shooting for +500hp.

But I've got enough into it to buy a new Honda Fit-L.......

Pockets were deep, have been sewn shut but have everything I need to finish.

EDIT:

Turbo and built are right.

I think there are people running an superchargers at the lower boost who are fine. Most if not all with the ability to go above that have damaged something internally.

justnspace

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OP was very cryptic and without specifics

FamilyGuy

justnspace

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screaminz28

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Seriously? Come on Justin, how specific does a question have to be before you offer an answer...

How about, I have a 2004 Acura TL 6MT with 230,000 miles. It has a J32A3 engine with 258 bhp. What is the overall power potential from this platform?

None of that detailed info was needed to make a legit answer. You could argue this same question could be asked of any car now and it should illicit a response similar to what I gave.

Name a performance or semi performance oriented platform and I can give you the overall power potential, or an alternative.

Let's try it...

240SX - don't waste time with KA - go LS
RX7 - don't waste time with wankel - go LS
E46/E39 - don't waste time with BMW - go LS
IS300 - don't waste time on GE or GTE motor - go LS

Those were the easy ones :-P

thoiboi

Before or after the JDM stickers/decals?

JessicaTaylor

I see, Tl costs a tons to gain more power

FamilyGuy

Yup, that's the downside.

The upside is it won't break down on you every 3 months like Audi, Mercedes and BMW. And when it does need something it won't cost an arm and a leg.

EvilVirus

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Fixed

justnspace

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ahhh, so she doesnt have deep pockets.

called it, screaminz

Speeden6

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ok, have to chime in. stock motor, breather mods + Nitrous - 350 - 390 WHP. but then again I'm biased

Grand_hustle17

Lol honestly KA > SR to me

jeepthing

And I'm guessing the Type S would just be adding 16 HP to those numbers? Or would the extra .3L actually make a significant difference? Also, how much can the AT TLS (08) transmission withstand?, HP and abuse.

N1h1l1ty

Jeep there was a member on here that ran 400 whp on an older 5AT with no real issues - the transmission shit the bed after 500 whp and he went for 6MT. Most people running the Comptech charger for example have had no major issues with the transmission.

Now you've got a turbo 5AT TLS that just got built and if you're interested, you should go peruse UTAH TLS's thread. He and his dad (UTAH TSX) are now both running turbos on auto Acuras. Granted the TSX is a 2nd gen (2009+)

Scottwax

Exactly right!

I think the average person would be happy with the typical bolt-ons with a J series motor assuming they aren't expecting to run 12s in the quarter mile. Nothing wrong with making a car more fun to drive as long as you are realistic about what to expect.

FamilyGuy

Definitely. Just bolt ons and suspension makes this car much more exciting to drive. The noises alone from a healthy breathing J series are music to the ears and gives you that satisfaction that we all love.

anx1300c

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The reality is that there's actually a 28 bhp difference between the base and Type-S (258 vs 286) and there tends to be more like a 25-30 whp difference from the dynos I've seen. I've always thought the base was properly rated at 258 and that the S was a few horsepower underrated at 286.

jeepthing

Thank you, I shall look into that! I've been looking around and playing with numbers a little bit and haven't pulled the trigger on what exactly I wanna build. I prefer a 4D over a 2D for insurance reasons personally, they used to be such sleepers as well. But seems like everyone else is throwing V8's and turbos factory now a days. And seems like Acura is playing catch up when it comes to the HP game... lol I mean I bet the RLX Hybrid is quick At 377 combined. Just wish they'd resurrect the Type S badge >.>

FamilyGuy

Those V8s and turbos are usually more expensive...

JessicaTaylor

What about similar cars with similar base Hp like G35, WRX, mazdaspeed 3, you name it?

FamilyGuy

Each car always has common issues, failures etc. I'm not familiar with each of those, but a few google searches should shed some light.

You say you have a passion for speed...what exactly are you looking for in a car? Is this a daily driver, a weekend warrior, a track car, preference or need between 2 door / 4 door, manual or automatic, etc...? What cars have you owned before and which were your favorite and which did you hate?

Do you already have a TL or are you shopping for what to buy next? If you're looking for a mod friendly speed monster that's not gonna break the bank, you might want to look for something else. If you're looking for a reliable entry level luxury sport sedan that can be quick with a few mods, then the TL will fit the bill. All depends on your needs and wants really (and bank acct ).

Scottwax

Of those the G35 will be the most reliable. Lots of parts available for the VQ35 too. I had a 6 speed '02 Maxima and I definitely believe all the low 14/98 mph time slips posted for bone stock 6MT Maximas. G35s have even more power and are RWD.

Biggest issuec with the VQ35 is oil consumption and the precats going bad.

screaminz28

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The BIGGEST issue with the G35 is that the interior is terrible. The seats are uncomfortable, the center stack is setup for RHD but they just moved the steering wheel over. TERRIBLE car.

jeepthing

...and the older ones look hideous

ExcelerateRep

The TL is a mid-luxury oriented car that is a well rounded daily driver with some great options. If speed if your passion, the TL may not be the best choice, as others have said. The $ to horsepower ratio is pretty low compared to some other platforms. That being said, it is possible to squeeze out another 30hp/tq from these cars without breaking the bank. A J-Pipe, exhaust, lightweight crank pulley, and Flashpro are all great places to start.

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