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Old 01-20-2014, 11:39 AM
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Help....'07 Type S with mods vs Camaro SS

Don't know if I am posting on the right place ,I have a 07 type s tl with atlp cat back third cat delete atlp jpipe rv6 hfpc 3.7 tl manifold and tb vittuned 276hp .
Like a hour ago I was on the highway and a camaro ss come close to me like 2 feet away from my rear bumper I was doing 70 mph cruise control so I down shift to 3rd and took off the camaro coming behind me I shift to 4 th at 108 then at 130mph the camaro move to the next lene for the kill now we are side to side I put 5th gear at like 135 but the camaro is not moving In 5th gear felt like my car hit a stop sign at 5500rpm and it just stay there but the speed was going up at 140 I was moving foward and at 145 I had a full car on the camaro.

My question? How is tha possible 276 hp tls auto beat a 426hp camaro ss
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^its not.
unless it was the RS.


if the Camaro was a v8, he simply wasnt pushing the pedal all the way down.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:46 AM
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^its not.
unless it was the RS.


if the Camaro was a v8, he simply wasnt pushing the pedal all the way down.
I follow hem to the next gas station it was out of my way but I wanted to make sure it was a ss and it was he say the car wong go pass 136 he's rpm was going up and down at 136.
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Originally Posted by rubenders
I follow hem to the next gas station it was out of my way but I wanted to make sure it was a ss and it was he say the car wong go pass 136 he's rpm was going up and down at 136.
so, then he's limited at 136......
there's your answer.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
so, then he's limited at 136......
there's your answer.
Tha is low for all that power
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if your TL-S was an automatic, you too would have been bouncing off that rev limiter at around the same speed he was.

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Originally Posted by ggesq
if your TL-S was an automatic, you too would have been bouncing off that rev limiter at around the same speed he was.
My is auto vittuned move the limiter to s crazy 160
I think is 160 I have to look at the last calibration
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reading > me
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Originally Posted by ggesq
reading > me
Limiters set to 149
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Originally Posted by rubenders
Tha is low for all that power
top speed as indicated on your speedometer is not a good measure for power.

he will beat you all over the tach.
from 0 rpm to 7000 rpm, he will win.


plus, if you werent tuned and your limiter was set to the 130 stock limiter....you'd be in the same boat as he.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
top speed as indicated on your speedometer is not a good measure for power.

he will beat you all over the tach.
from 0 rpm to 7000 rpm, he will win.


plus, if you werent tuned and your limiter was set to the 130 stock limiter....you'd be in the same boat as he.
I don't doubt. I have a friend at work with a red ss and he destroy my car when we do light to light

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Gear ratio. Weight to Power Ratio. #etc

More importantly, (with mods) 276 whp from 280hp vs ~ 350- 370 rwhp from 430hp.

Camaro curb weight is at 3,750 - 3,860

You have the advantage by a few 300 lbs lighter.
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But you just took off and he chased. Not really racing in my world. Just playing catch and mouse. Your 3.7 opened up better on top end.
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
But you just took off and he chased. Not really racing in my world. Just playing catch and mouse. Your 3.7 opened up better on top end.
He was picking on me

We took off together and he was behind me till 130 when he move to over take then his limiter slow him down.
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I bet that speed was adrenaline. Could hear you scream ' f#*K yeah! ', haha.

If only you had a Go-Pro hooked up...
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Originally Posted by bouncer07
I bet that speed was adrenaline. Could hear you scream ' f#*K yeah! ', haha.

If only you had a Go-Pro hooked up...
I was going to get my phone but it was too fast it was my first time going that fast.
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I wouldn't mind running into a stock ss from a roll. I have about the same power and I'm 3050lbs.
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Nice kill. Justin stop bsin w him. Hes fast
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SS limited at 136? Yeah right
My rental SS at Miami saw 160 and it's Auto

TL is quick, well mine is, didn't have the enough fun with SS when you compare the quickness of the car. Blame it's stupid auto idk
But it was fast, no end

I had so many runs with one black G37s coupe on those straight Miami highways. Was at night and heading back to Orlando.

I had 2 people in my car, I was pulling way faster than him
BUT!!! You have to get the gears/speed right
Starting off from low gear was slow
Stupid Auto, you can't know

G37 followed pretty well too, but then I noticed that my A/C was on as well
Yes saw 160 with it or more I don't remember
He was one person inside the car. I know because we even talked while driving, it's a 2 lane, empty road at night, and he was heading to airport too
Was fun trip

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Maybe the SS had a rear gear swap. Not sure what axle ratio they have stock but it's not uncommon to swap it so it's quicker off the line but has less top end. My Impala SS came with a 3.08 axle, used to climb like nothing 120+, swapped to 4.10 and it roasts the tires but falls on its face over 100.
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love this thread ill post a video soon my buddy just got a 2013 ss auto i dusted him but when he puts it onto sport mod where he can shit him self i lose by about a car and a half
my mods are full rv-6 exhaust cai hondata all motor tune 265whp 240wtq
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Originally Posted by Brennan8
love this thread ill post a video soon my buddy just got a 2013 ss auto i dusted him but when he puts it onto sport mod where he can shit him self i lose by about a car and a half
my mods are full rv-6 exhaust cai hondata all motor tune 265whp 240wtq
they are fast from 0 i have a friend at work has a red one ss the same to me on outo i leave hem bihind but on manual he get me fast
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just be happy you have a nicer car then he does. camaro's are quick, but they are so cheaply built

i cant stand american cars and how cheap they feel over the interior
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Haha these Mustang people really hate Camaros on online
They are like everywhere when you google it
And Vettes hate Mustang people I think


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So you were doing 145mph down a public road?

If you get caught doing that speed, you'll lose your license, have your car impounded and do up to 90 days in jail.

If you have an accident doing that speed you'll lose your car, probably your life, and maybe kill some innocent person. This is assuming that you are not a trained race driver, because someone who actually races knows better than to do it on a public highway. No wonder insurance is so much.

Saying that, it would have been a rush I bet.
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Originally Posted by rubenders
Don't know if I am posting on the right place ,I have a 07 type s tl with atlp cat back third cat delete atlp jpipe rv6 hfpc 3.7 tl manifold and tb vittuned 276hp .
Like a hour ago I was on the highway and a camaro ss come close to me like 2 feet away from my rear bumper I was doing 70 mph cruise control so I down shift to 3rd and took off the camaro coming behind me I shift to 4 th at 108 then at 130mph the camaro move to the next lene for the kill now we are side to side I put 5th gear at like 135 but the camaro is not moving In 5th gear felt like my car hit a stop sign at 5500rpm and it just stay there but the speed was going up at 140 I was moving foward and at 145 I had a full car on the camaro.

My question? How is tha possible 276 hp tls auto beat a 426hp camaro ss
Either he had an RS or he wasn't on it. An SS would whip your ass.

Take it to the track next time before you kill someone. Where was this in Jacksonville?
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Originally Posted by PC_Jona
just be happy you have a nicer car then he does. camaro's are quick, but they are so cheaply built

i cant stand american cars and how cheap they feel over the interior
The TL was built in america and has a cheap interior.

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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Either he had an RS or he wasn't on it. An SS would whip your ass.

Take it to the track next time before you kill someone. Where was this in Jacksonville?
Not necessarily. Check YouTube for v6 accord vs camaro ss. He does pull that fast on a stock 6spd. Add another 50whp and nearly all of that pull is stopped.
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I rented a 2013 SS Auto Camaro from Hertz to take a trip from San Antonio to Houston. I can tell you first hand, the Camaro would kick a TLS ass all over the place, unless forced induced/ or extreme diet. There really is no comparison. I hit 140 in the SS easy, and slowed down only because I came along some traffic (had about 2 miles to myself)
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I race my friends stock 6.0 GTO all the time.
simply put, he has WAAAY more steam than I do.
I can be flooring it at 80-100mph, and he'll pass me up with ease.

now a 6.2L engine will fucking rape me. anywhere on the TACH.

my friend just bought a '14 SS 1LE model.
3.92 rear end
6MT
and a better suspension.

he's fucking quick.
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
Not necessarily. Check YouTube for v6 accord vs camaro ss. He does pull that fast on a stock 6spd. Add another 50whp and nearly all of that pull is stopped.
But he doesn't have that 50whp, so it's a moot point.

My point stands.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
But he doesn't have that 50whp, so it's a moot point.

My point stands.
50whp over stock accord v6 which is about 270whp. Op has 276. If he were to weigh less that camaro would have a handful. Dontbmistake torque for acceleration. It doesn't work like that. Us Honda and Acura guys should know that. Hp and weight determines acceleration.
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
50whp over stock accord v6 which is about 270whp. Op has 276. If he were to weigh less that camaro would have a handful. Dontbmistake torque for acceleration. It doesn't work like that. Us Honda and Acura guys should know that. Hp and weight determines acceleration.
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It means nothing to me.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I race my friends stock 6.0 GTO all the time.
simply put, he has WAAAY more steam than I do.
I can be flooring it at 80-100mph, and he'll pass me up with ease.

now a 6.2L engine will fucking rape me. anywhere on the TACH.

my friend just bought a '14 SS 1LE model.
3.92 rear end
6MT
and a better suspension.

he's fucking quick.
said GTO



and said 1LE

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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
It means nothing to me.
As do your posts to me.
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Stock camaro ss run on avaerage 8.8-9.2 1/8th at 85-86mph. Before polished zdx, tb PnP manifold, deleted ac and ps I ran a best of 9.0 @ 82.5 with a 2.27 60'. No doubt I can run high mid 8's now at 84+.
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
It means nothing to me.
it means; dont sleep on him.

Gatr has the knowledge and mathematical adept to figure out horse power vs weight.

he's our residential physics guru.



Now, was the P- CGT traveling at 45MPH or not?
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Originally Posted by NvrDwn
Stock camaro ss run on avaerage 8.8-9.2 1/8th at 85-86mph. Before polished zdx, tb PnP manifold, deleted ac and ps I ran a best of 9.0 @ 82.5 with a 2.27 60'. No doubt I can run high mid 8's now at 84+.


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Originally Posted by justnspace
and said 1LE

nvrdwn, this car is capable of 12.2 at 113mph STOCK in the quarter.


your car is not trapping 113.
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