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Old 08-21-2015, 01:01 PM
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What do you think about Disney?

With the market tanking the last few days, DIS is below $100. With Star Wars coming out in December and the Star Wars theme parks, I think it definitely has the potential to get back up to where it was.

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I bought Disney at $36/share in 2011, will be adding today.
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^ I kick myself for not buying Disney and Amazon back then.

For positives they have Star Wars coming this year.
If you think cord cutting is going to gain steam or that ESPN is going to come out of basic cable bundles (like Verizon is starting to offer) then that would be a negative for them.
I read somewhere that ESPN is the most expensive channel in basic cable. Something like $7 a month.
Another negative is the strong dollar may hurt the theme parks.

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I'm debating whether to buy on Monday.
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Q4 2015 analyst expectations
* EPS of $1.14, an increase of 28.1% from $0.89 a year ago (EPS has beat in 10 out of 10 past quarters)
* Revenue of $13.55 billion, an increase of 9.4% from $12.38 billion a year ago (revenue has beat in 8 out of 10 past quarters)
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$1.20 eps

13.51 billion in revenue. Stock is down

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I should have got in on the last pullback. The force is strong with this one.
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'Star Wars' drives Disney to record quarterly earnings - MarketWatch

'Star Wars' drives Disney to record quarterly earnings

Walt Disney Co. late Tuesday said it posted its biggest quarterly earnings ever in the first quarter on the global success of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens."

The company reported its earnings jumped to $2.88 billion, or $1.73 a share, from $2.18 billion, or $1.27 a share, in the same quarter last year. Excluding items, the company would have earned $1.63 a share. Revenue grew 14% to $15.24 billion from $13.39 billion a year earlier.

Analysts surveyed by FactSet had forecast adjusted earnings of $1.45 a share on revenue of $14.79 billion. Its studio entertainment business led the surge in operating income while media networks saw its operating income drop 6%. Despite the robust results, shares of Disney fell 1.9% in after-hours trade.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/espn-...214644450.html

ESPN takes the edge off "Star Wars" success at Disney

Feb 9 (Reuters) - A drop in profit at Walt Disney Co's cable networks unnerved investors despite jumps in overall quarterly income and revenue, driven by the blockbuster release of "Star Wars: The Force Awakens".

The media networks unit that includes sports network ESPN, the Disney Channels and ABC recorded a 5.6 percent decline in operating income to $1.41 billion, due mainly to higher programming costs at ESPN, which offset an increase in advertising revenue.

Disney faces declining subscribers at ESPN as viewers switch to watching sports games online and cut TV cable subscriptions.

That took the shine off a blockbuster launch for "The Force Awakens", the first "Star Wars" movie produced by Disney after it bought Lucasfilm from creator George Lucas in 2012 for $4 billion.

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Fuck you Mickey Mouse

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Friggin speculative markets...company makes almost 2 billion dollars more this year than last....traders drop share price.

The stock market. How does it work.

Ah well got my money in vanguard index funds....
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I should have got in on the last pullback. The force is strong with this one.
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Earnings tomorrow

2nd Quarter March 2016
Consensus: $1.40
Revenue: $13.21 Bil
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Fml

The company reported adjusted earnings of $1.36 per share on $12.97 billion in revenue for its fiscal 2016 second quarter.

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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Fuck you Mickey Mouse


This still applies today.
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Earnings after market close.

EPS: $1.41
Revenue: $13.17 Billion

just kidding, maybe it's this one

The media company, which reports after Tuesday's closing bell, is expected to show adjusted earnings of $1.61 per share, according to the Thompson Reuters consensus. Revenue for the fiscal 2016 third quarter is estimated at $14.152 billion.

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the company posted third-quarter earnings of $1.62 per share on $14.28 billion in revenue. Analysts expected disney to post earnings of $1.61 per share on $14.15 billion in revenue, according to a thomson reuters consensus estimate.
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After-hours: 95.13 -1.54 (1.59%)

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Shanghai wasn't as successful as expected..
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Fuck you Mickey Mouse

and again.
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Shanghai wasn't as successful as expected..
No mention of how well/poor Shanghai Disney's doing in press release

Parks and Resorts

Parks and Resorts revenues for the quarter increased 6% to $4.4 billion and segment operating income increased 8% to $994 million. Operating income growth for the quarter was due to an increase at our domestic operations, partially offset by a decrease at our international operations. Results were adversely impacted by the absence of the Easter holiday, which occurred in the third quarter of the prior year compared to the second quarter of the current year.

Higher operating income at our domestic operations was due to guest spending growth and lower costs, partially offset by lower volumes. The increase in guest spending was driven by higher average ticket prices at our theme parks and cruise line. Lower costs reflected decreases in labor and marketing costs from efficiency initiatives. Costs also benefited from lower infrastructure costs due to timing and a decrease in fuel costs. These decreases were partially offset by higher depreciation, labor and other cost inflation and costs associated with new attractions. The decrease in volumes was due to lower attendance, partially offset by higher occupied room nights.

Lower operating income at our international operations was due to higher pre-opening costs at Shanghai Disney Resort and lower attendance and higher operating costs at Disneyland Paris. These decreases were partially offset by cost efficiency initiatives as well as higher volumes and guest spending at Hong Kong Disneyland Resort.
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Left out a question mark

I heard operations and upkeep there is atrocious due to increased maintenance cost because of mainland and their barbaric ways .


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Disney built alligator wall. No word on if alligators are paying for it.
Disney World builds stone wall at lake where alligator killed boy | Fox News
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Is that kid taking a shit?????
Probably just needed to pee like this kid at 2:47 mark

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The media titan posted adjusted earnings of $1.10 per share on revenue of $13.14 billion for its fiscal fourth quarter. Revenue slid 3 percent from the prior year, which Disney said included an extra week of operations.


Analysts expected Disney to report earnings of about $1.16 a share on $13.52 billion in revenue, according to a consensus estimate from Thomson Reuters.
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Walt Disney — The stock was upgraded to "overweight" from "equal-weight" at Morgan Stanley, which also raised the price target to $124 per share from $101. Morgan Stanley thinks ESPN has the potential to accelerate revenue growth against a more aggressively managed cost base.
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What does this sentence mean: 'Morgan Stanley thinks ESPN has the potential to accelerate revenue growth against a more aggressively managed cost base."

Welp, from a casual football/sportsfan perspective...all I've been reading are how ESPN has been dropping subscribers like nothing this past year. And ESPN has also been losing lot of big name people recently in the past year:
  • Skip Bayless (look, I think this dude does not belong on TV, but still he's a ratings generator that will be lost and for better or worse, lot of people liked Skip's rants)
  • Tom Jackson (An absolute legend and a football institution, huge loss)
  • Chris Berman (Another ESPN/sportscasting legend)
  • Mike Tirico (Top 5 brodacaster....HUGELY miss him calling games with John Gruden for monday nights. Right up there with Gruden and Al Michaels in terms of sports commentating as far as I'm concerned)
  • Stuart Scott (damn tragedy really.....fuck cancer)
The only guy whose worth a damn listening to: John Gruden. (Mike and Mike, Scott Van Pelt, not too shabby people over there...)

And how that idiot Stephen A Smith still has a job on TV is beyond me.

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ill just be happy if it actually hits that price target
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What does this sentence mean: 'Morgan Stanley thinks ESPN has the potential to accelerate revenue growth against a more aggressively managed cost base."
Cost base = what it costs to run/operated a business, make a product, offer a service.

Aggressively managed cost base means DIS will cut expenses (i.e. lay people off, renegotiate contracts and rights, cut production costs, etc).

The accelerated revenue growth could come from more ad sales, higher cable carriage fees, etc.

Old article, but it talks about some of the steps DIS has taken with regards to managing ESPN's costs.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/espn-ti...nts-1436485852

ESPN Tightens Its Belt as Pressure on It Mounts

July 9, 2015

Sports-TV powerhouse ESPN, a profit machine that has long towered over the media landscape, is showing signs of stress as the pay-TV industry goes through an unprecedented period of upheaval.

A decline in subscribers as customers trim their cable bills, coupled with rising content costs and increased competition, has ESPN in belt-tightening mode, people familiar with the situation say.

The company, majority owned by Walt Disney Co., has lost 3.2 million subscribers in a little over a year, according to Nielsen data, as people have “cut the cord” by dropping their cable-TV subscriptions or downgraded to cheaper, slimmed-down TV packages devoid of expensive sports channels like ESPN.

At the same time, the prices ESPN pays for the rights to show games are ballooning. Rivals including 21st Century Fox Inc.’s Fox Sports and Comcast Corp.’s NBC are aggressively pursuing sports properties to feed their own outlets, which is also driving up prices.

Last year, ESPN agreed as part of a renewal deal with the National Basketball Association to triple its average annual fees from $485 million to about $1.47 billion, people familiar with the deal said.

ESPN sees talent as one area where it can control its costs, and it has been taking a hard line in negotiations.

On Wednesday, the company said it was parting ways with star host Keith Olbermann. That followed the exit in May of Bill Simmons, another big name. While Mr. Olbermann’s tendency to make controversial statements sometimes landed him in hot water with ESPN and some of its business partners, including the National Football League, the decision was a financial one, a person with knowledge of the decision said.

Other ESPN talent likely facing tough negotiations down the road includes “Monday Night Football” anchor Mike Tirico, reporters Michelle Beadle and Adam Schefter, and radio-host Colin Cowherd, people close to them said.

“We are constantly looking at the cost side of our business and calibrating that against our expectations for the future,” said ESPN Executive Vice President of Administration Ed Durso. “Regardless of what the future holds, we’re incredibly well-positioned to adapt.”

The stakes are high for Disney. ESPN will contribute roughly 25% of the company’s operating profit this year, according to Nomura Securities. ESPN’s fortunes are being closely watched in the media world as cord-cutting picks up and consumers gravitate to streaming services.

Sports has long been viewed as the glue holding the pay-TV bundle together, providing leverage for media giants like Disney to distribute wider groups of channels and secure higher fees from pay-TV operators.

Since July 2011, ESPN’s reach into American homes has dropped 7.2%, from more than 100 million households—roughly the size of the total U.S. pay-TV market—to 92.9 million households, according to Nielsen data.

Viewership of SportsCenter, its marquee and high-margin sports-news show, has sagged since September, due in part to the fact that younger consumers are increasingly finding sports news at their fingertips on smartphone apps.

To be sure, ESPN continues to trounce other cable channels in ratings, garnering an average of 2.4 million prime-time viewers tuning in live or within seven days since last September.

The financial stakes are especially high for ESPN because it earns the most carriage fees of any TV channel, about $6.61 a month per subscriber, according to SNL Kagan.

In response to the pressures, ESPN has been scaling back ambitious initiatives. One such move was its decision to cancel plans to move its popular morning “Mike & Mike” radio and TV show from the company’s Bristol, Conn., headquarters to the ABC studio in New York City that houses “Good Morning America.”

ESPN announced the idea with great fanfare in May but then put it on hold a few weeks ago. People close to ESPN say the cost associated with relocating to New York was a major factor.


As it trims costs, ESPN is also looking for new ways to boost revenue. In previous years, Disney’s ABC network received four minutes of time to promote its new shows for the fall during each NBA finals game it aired. This year, ESPN, which manages the NBA rights for Disney, cut that amount by about 75% so that it could sell more ads, people with knowledge of the matter said, a move that angered ABC executives.

Disney’s concerns about ESPN’s subscriber losses have shown up in its deal-making as it tries to get distribution on new online services that compete with traditional pay TV.

When Disney struck a deal to put channels on Dish Network Corp.’s Sling TV service, it negotiated the right to terminate the deal if ESPN lost three million Nielsen households after May 2014
—a threshold that has now been crossed, according to people familiar with the matter.

Other factors could play into Disney exercising that right, including if Sling TV attracts more than two million subscribers, though that benchmark is still a ways off, the people said.

ESPN has been an early adopter of new digital business models and has built a huge Web and mobile audience for its news content—an asset as the TV model comes under pressure. But it has moved cautiously in online video, making sure any new product safeguards its lucrative pay-TV business.

Some networks like HBO and CBS have launched their own stand-alone online video services to target customers that don’t want to buy a cable-TV subscription. ESPN has so far shied away from that route, and it would face some complications in that endeavor.

If ESPN offers its channel as a direct-to-consumer streaming service, some pay-TV operators have the contractual right to boot ESPN out of their most widely-sold channel packages and sell it a la carte, according to people familiar with the matter.

ESPN would have to charge about $30 a month per customer in an over-the-top offering to make the same money using that model, analysts say. But those distributors would have the right to undercut ESPN in their retail pricing, the people said.

To be sure, there are no signs ESPN wants to offer a stand-alone Web version of itself to consumers anytime soon.

“As long as the current distribution ecosystem, or the one that seems to be emerging, continues to create value for us, then we’ll rely on it to distribute our product,” Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger said on a May earnings conference call.

But he added that there is “some development under way” to create products directly for consumers.
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Very informative. Thanks for the info on business-speak.

So essentially it seems to me: cut cost (fire/let go of people, trim bottom line where it can) and raise more revenue by increasing ad time, negotiate more deals but not looking to go the Netflix/HBO route just yet and not doing costly initial investment (ie moving that Mike and Mike studio to NYC) if it doesn't mean a quick and real number change.

Interesting way to do business. Seems short sighted to me but we'll see. The traditional cable TV subscription is getting deader annually and many young generation don't even have cable anymore.
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So essentially it seems to me: . . . . negotiate more deals but not looking to go the Netflix/HBO route just yet .


They did buy a stake in BAM Tech, so they must be planning something.

http://www.recode.net/2016/8/9/12416...ming-tech-espn

Disney is investing $1 billion in streaming tech and will launch a streaming sports network — but it won’t include ESPN

If cord-cutting ever gets bad, Disney now has an easier way to go direct to consumer.

Aug 9, 2016,

Disney is buying a one-third stake in streaming video company BAM Tech for $1 billion and will eventually launch what it calls an ESPN-branded subscription streaming service that — here’s the important part — won’t include ESPN.

The deal values BAM Tech, backed by Major League Baseball, at $3 billion.

We told you about a potential deal between the two earlier this year, and now it’s official. The company also said the investment gives it the option to buy a majority stake down the road, which shows it’s pretty serious about streaming video.

Disney already sells some of its channels, including ESPN, to online streaming services like Dish’s Sling. But with its new investment Disney can stream stuff on its own and plans to sell a bunch of ESPN-type channels in a new subscription video service at some point in the future.

Crucially, it won’t include regular ESPN since that’s the channel that makes the most money for Disney, and selling it directly to consumers would hurt its standing with the cable and satellite distributors that already pay Disney a lot of money to carry the network.

But by owning a piece of the tech, Disney has an easy way to sell more of its content directly to consumers, and if cord-cutting ever gets really bad, it can include ESPN in the mix.
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For sure the board room at Disney/ESPN must know where TV programming is trending and the huge increase in alternative delivery and mobile delivery and the downturn in traditional TV. I'm sure they are working on something so they are probably not yet ready to reveal it.

They either have to do 1 of 2 (or both) imo:

1- Provide such a high quality TV content that it attracts viewers back or retains the traditional TV model (ie with great commentators, sports casting, insightful/interesting shows). Unfortunately the ratings drivers are too commonly found in people like Stephen A Smith et al...

2 - Provide such a ease into content access that it draws in more viewers. So offer a HUGE variety of access to their content outside of traditional (web-specific model, mobile model, deals with other content delivery services that can be ISP based or more Netflix/Amazon-based)


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