Apple: What you gon' do with all that junk inside your trunk?
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Buy buy buy?
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I would WAIT WAIT wait on this one. APPL is now at 200 day exp moving average which should serve as support. If that doesn't hold, it could drop even more which could happen if people are selling to lock in attractive long term gains for this year. Apple was trading at $395 a year ago so any buyers might want to lock in a nice return even with today's price of $576. As the stock goes down with normal market sentiment, you'll see more long term holders unloading shares and of coarse new buyers might as well to curtail losses.
The 3x negative relative performance to SP500 on 50% more volume is not a good sign for this stock next week. I'm not short on this stock at this time but it is getting tempting if the 200 day EMA doesn't hold- the next technical support level would be down around $520.
The 3x negative relative performance to SP500 on 50% more volume is not a good sign for this stock next week. I'm not short on this stock at this time but it is getting tempting if the 200 day EMA doesn't hold- the next technical support level would be down around $520.
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$560.17 - Down $ 20.03 (3.45%)
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For this trader?
Hours before Apple announced its earnings late last month, a trader at a small Connecticut brokerage firm placed a bet on the outcome of the technology giant’s results. It was the sort of speculative trade that happens any given day on Wall Street.
But the series of purchases, executed just before the market closed, now threaten to bring down the boutique brokerage firm, Rochdale Securities.
The trader, David Miller, bought roughly $1 billion of Apple stock, a far larger position than Rochdale had ever handled. After the trader bought the shares, Apple — a notoriously volatile stock — dropped in value, costing Rochdale million of dollars.
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The losses at Rochdale have crippled the small brokerage firm. The firm has a capital cushion of only about $3.5 million supporting its operations. Theories are now circulating inside Rochdale about what went wrong.
Some potential investors in Rochdale were told that the errant purchases were the result of a “fat finger.” That is, the trader intended to buy 165,000 Apple shares but the order was executed at 1.65 million shares.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/11/...t-apple-trade/
But the series of purchases, executed just before the market closed, now threaten to bring down the boutique brokerage firm, Rochdale Securities.
The trader, David Miller, bought roughly $1 billion of Apple stock, a far larger position than Rochdale had ever handled. After the trader bought the shares, Apple — a notoriously volatile stock — dropped in value, costing Rochdale million of dollars.
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The losses at Rochdale have crippled the small brokerage firm. The firm has a capital cushion of only about $3.5 million supporting its operations. Theories are now circulating inside Rochdale about what went wrong.
Some potential investors in Rochdale were told that the errant purchases were the result of a “fat finger.” That is, the trader intended to buy 165,000 Apple shares but the order was executed at 1.65 million shares.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/11/...t-apple-trade/
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$541.88 - Down $16.12 (2.89%)
GOOG also down big. It's lost whatever gains it had for the year. Non-stop drop from high of $774.38 one month back all the way down to $653.xx
GOOG also down big. It's lost whatever gains it had for the year. Non-stop drop from high of $774.38 one month back all the way down to $653.xx
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When to buy?
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Again I'm dumb, should have taken profit....
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Had considered buying more when it hit $570 to average down. Decided to wait expecting it to fall more. It did. Considered buying more when it fell to $550. So glad I didn't.
Maybe when it hits $520? $500?
15% cap gain tax goes up to 20% next year so that's what everyone's probably doing.
Maybe when it hits $520? $500?
15% cap gain tax goes up to 20% next year so that's what everyone's probably doing.
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The racer guy said $520
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If only I sold at $700
I should just quit
I should just quit
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Since I sold at $560 from $240 and rebought at $541 I'm technically still up right?
But I'm down like $1700 from 700
But I'm down like $1700 from 700
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Buy hold or sell? What do you guys think?
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Don't catch a falling knife.
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The sizzle in the Steak
Everyone is setting up their year end profits.
Peeps getting out.
Peeps getting out.
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I will buy in again then
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Lets reanimate him!!!
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$558.35 - Up $30.67 (5.81%)
$558.35 - Up $30.67 (5.81%)
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Set my limit too low
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$584.42 - up $12.92 (2.26%)
Missed my chance to double up at around $520.
Missed my chance to double up at around $520.
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I put my limit at $500 oops.
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The 3x negative relative performance to SP500 on 50% more volume is not a good sign for this stock next week. I'm not short on this stock at this time but it is getting tempting if the 200 day EMA doesn't hold- the next technical support level would be down around $520.
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Went down to $505.75 on Nov. 16 before rallying to where it is now.
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Shouldn't have been so greedy
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Down 4.5%
~550/share
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Ended day at $538.79 - Down $37.05 (6.43%)
After Hours: $536.00 - Down $2.79 (0.52%)
So 0.05% shy of a 7% drop in one day.
If it gets close to $500 again (which I believe it will), I'm buying some more.
I'm thinking it'll even go down to about $475 - $480 before settling, so I may wait until then.
People might have seen this article from yesterday and panicked today/decided to take profits.
I mean, it did shoot up over 17% from it's Nov. 15 low of $505 to its Dec. 3 intra-day high of $595.
After Hours: $536.00 - Down $2.79 (0.52%)
So 0.05% shy of a 7% drop in one day.
If it gets close to $500 again (which I believe it will), I'm buying some more.
I'm thinking it'll even go down to about $475 - $480 before settling, so I may wait until then.
People might have seen this article from yesterday and panicked today/decided to take profits.
Apple Is in a Multi-Year Decline, Shares to Fall 50-70% Says Schatz
Shares of Apple (AAPL) are trying to stage a comeback after a rough stretch took the stock into bear market territory last month. The downturn came as no surprise to Breakout regular Paul Schatz, president of Heritage Capital, who has been calling for an Apple sell-off since last April when he predicted a 30 — 50% drop was near.
Apple shares fell as low as $505 on an intraday basis in mid-November, off as much as 25% from the all-time high of $705 hit when the iPhone 5 launched on September 21st. The stock has since recovered from bear status, but sentiment remains damaged.
"If you're a trader, I think Apple has some upside left in it," says Schatz in the attached video. "But what we saw in that twenty-plus [percent] decline was just the first leg down of a multi-year decline, which I think ends up knocking 50 to 70-percent off the stock."
Schatz sees any pop as an opportunity to sell your position. And if you own a lot of AAPL, in his opinion, it's time to lighten up your holdings or use some options protection.
"If your thesis, like mine, is that long-term Apple is going to be sub-$500 or sub-$400 [a share], then you can't get too greedy on the upside, because the upside is going to be fleeting," Schatz says.
"Whatever resolution we get with the fiscal cliff, whether it's good or bad, it's going to lead to problems with the economy, and Apple's gonna take it on the chin."
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...131608918.html
Shares of Apple (AAPL) are trying to stage a comeback after a rough stretch took the stock into bear market territory last month. The downturn came as no surprise to Breakout regular Paul Schatz, president of Heritage Capital, who has been calling for an Apple sell-off since last April when he predicted a 30 — 50% drop was near.
Apple shares fell as low as $505 on an intraday basis in mid-November, off as much as 25% from the all-time high of $705 hit when the iPhone 5 launched on September 21st. The stock has since recovered from bear status, but sentiment remains damaged.
"If you're a trader, I think Apple has some upside left in it," says Schatz in the attached video. "But what we saw in that twenty-plus [percent] decline was just the first leg down of a multi-year decline, which I think ends up knocking 50 to 70-percent off the stock."
Schatz sees any pop as an opportunity to sell your position. And if you own a lot of AAPL, in his opinion, it's time to lighten up your holdings or use some options protection.
"If your thesis, like mine, is that long-term Apple is going to be sub-$500 or sub-$400 [a share], then you can't get too greedy on the upside, because the upside is going to be fleeting," Schatz says.
"Whatever resolution we get with the fiscal cliff, whether it's good or bad, it's going to lead to problems with the economy, and Apple's gonna take it on the chin."
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...131608918.html
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AAPL have their worst day this year as NOK climbs 12.79% on iPhone China miss
http://wmpoweruser.com/aapl-have-the...ne-china-miss/
Apple share holders did not have a good day today, with the company losing $35 billion in value today on fears that its margins are being squeezed, that it is losing tablet market share, and crucially that the company was edged out by Nokia in negotiations to have their smartphone released on China Mobile, the world’s largest carrier with 700 million subscribers.
Nokia today announced that they will be releasing their flagship, the Nokia Lumia 920T, on China Mobile’s network before the end of the year.
Meanwhile Apple will be selling their iPhone 5 on the much smaller China Unicom and China Telecom.
“Nokia announced that they are launching one of their Lumia phones with China Mobile, and there was some hope that Apple would launch their iPhone on that network,” Gus Papageorgiou, an analyst with Scotia Capital Inc. in Toronto, said in an interview.
While the iPhone has become Apple’s profit centre recently, more bad news has been that consumers are increasingly opting for cheaper models, such as the iPhone 4 and 4S instead of the 5, and the iPad Mini instead of the more profitable iPad. It seems Apple, who previously could do no wrong, is developing an increasing crisis of confidence in the market, with its share price more than 23% down from its September peak.
Nokia on the other hand is hitting a 6 month high, with its after hours price hovering around $3.90 at the time of writing. Good news include its China Mobile deal, and the release of the cheap mid-range Nokia Lumia 620, which should bring significant volume to Windows Phone 8.
Nokia today announced that they will be releasing their flagship, the Nokia Lumia 920T, on China Mobile’s network before the end of the year.
Meanwhile Apple will be selling their iPhone 5 on the much smaller China Unicom and China Telecom.
“Nokia announced that they are launching one of their Lumia phones with China Mobile, and there was some hope that Apple would launch their iPhone on that network,” Gus Papageorgiou, an analyst with Scotia Capital Inc. in Toronto, said in an interview.
While the iPhone has become Apple’s profit centre recently, more bad news has been that consumers are increasingly opting for cheaper models, such as the iPhone 4 and 4S instead of the 5, and the iPad Mini instead of the more profitable iPad. It seems Apple, who previously could do no wrong, is developing an increasing crisis of confidence in the market, with its share price more than 23% down from its September peak.
Nokia on the other hand is hitting a 6 month high, with its after hours price hovering around $3.90 at the time of writing. Good news include its China Mobile deal, and the release of the cheap mid-range Nokia Lumia 620, which should bring significant volume to Windows Phone 8.
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Got close.....
Opened down $10.27 to $518.63 then went up $10.xx the other way from open.
Opened down $10.27 to $518.63 then went up $10.xx the other way from open.
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Dammit still need to call Schwab to reset my password (won't let me do it via email/website)
Need to change my limit order...
Need to change my limit order...
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Limit order placed for Monday in case it dips while I'm asleep. 20 shares @ $508.
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Apple's Record After 'Death Cross'
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100271159
Apple's 'Death Cross' History
Date 1-Month
Sept. 2008 -27
Feb. 2008 14.4
Jun. 2006 -12
Jul. 2002 -17.7
Sept. 2001 -13
Jun. 2000 -5.7
Average -10.2
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100271159
Shares of Apple are down nearly 24 percent from their record high of $700 back in September, and the stock is now trading in the feared "death cross."
That's when the 50-day moving average drops below the 200-day moving average and is considered a strong bearish sign. Apple reached that point on Friday.
Apple's record after the "death cross" certainly isn't cause for optimism.
Since 2000, there have been six instances when Apple's passed through the "death cross." In five of those instances, the stock was down more than 5 percent one month after the crossing, with an average loss of 10 percent.
Apple shares rebounded on Monday after a weak open. Jefferies slashed its price target on the iPhone maker to $800 from $900.
The reversal of fortune has been jarring for a company which, just a few short months ago, had a high-flying stock that made it he world's most valuable company.
In 9 of the last 11 weeks, Apple closed in negative territory, losing over $150 billion in market cap value.
That's when the 50-day moving average drops below the 200-day moving average and is considered a strong bearish sign. Apple reached that point on Friday.
Apple's record after the "death cross" certainly isn't cause for optimism.
Since 2000, there have been six instances when Apple's passed through the "death cross." In five of those instances, the stock was down more than 5 percent one month after the crossing, with an average loss of 10 percent.
Apple shares rebounded on Monday after a weak open. Jefferies slashed its price target on the iPhone maker to $800 from $900.
The reversal of fortune has been jarring for a company which, just a few short months ago, had a high-flying stock that made it he world's most valuable company.
In 9 of the last 11 weeks, Apple closed in negative territory, losing over $150 billion in market cap value.
Apple's 'Death Cross' History
Date 1-Month
Sept. 2008 -27
Feb. 2008 14.4
Jun. 2006 -12
Jul. 2002 -17.7
Sept. 2001 -13
Jun. 2000 -5.7
Average -10.2
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