I did not mind some spirited discussion pertinent to what I was asking, but a couple of guys started going at it about Genesis versus Lexus LS versus Audi and on an on. Their long winded irrelevant rants were a waste of space and nowhere near the original topic. There always seem to be a few of these types on every forum though.

Doug

Also and btw, it is helpful if you inlcude a link to the thread or post that you want a mod to edit, look at, etc. In some cases (not yours thankfully) it can be like finding a needle in a haystack. Thanks.

Well, I put a couple of comments in the thread. We'll see where it goes.

The discussion on the evolution of the segment, etc, are partly to blame for the thread being off topic, and I think you'll agree, you were a willing particiapant in that bit.

People are so polarized by the 4G it's hard to have a reasonable discussion comparing it to other brands. Countless TL vs xxxx threads have gone down in flames. Yours may suffer the same fate.

JP