#1 STUNNA

Well, my old Sony SXRD 50' RPTV died today. I knew my next was always going to be 4k so I decided get one of the Vizio 55" P series 4ks from BB. I went with BB because they delivered sooner than anyone else and will haul off and recycle my old TV for free.

I got Fios 50/50 and will probably upgrade to the 4k Netflix package

justnspace

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that P-series looks interesting!

cost is low but amazing processors inside.

let us know your thoughts, once you get 4k content!

VR1

Very nice. My parents got a Sony 65' 4K. Even 1080p looks much better.

doopstr

What bandwidth is required for 4k Netflix? Can Wireless N handle it?

#1 STUNNA

Theoretically it should be fine. I'm just going to use ethernet anyways, 4k over wireless would hog up all the wifi bandwidth.

coopcoop30

I have the 60" Vizio P-series.......Awesome TV. Although the settings have to be jailed in to get the best performance.

maharajamd

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4k over wifi.

dallison

I have the samsung 55" 8550 and the pic is pretty nice.

Ken1997TL

Google Fiber is coming down my road next year... 4K might happen.

maharajamd

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Lucky!

I want a 4K TV but won't until 75 inchers are around the $2000 mark.

I see the P series 70 is $2500 so we are getting close.

Plus I generally don't like jumping on "gen 1" tech. But these seem pretty solid.

justnspace

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I dont view them as "gen 1"
as there was a whole host of them like 2 years ago.

those didnt fare too well.

maharajamd

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Ehh. "Mainstream"

#1 STUNNA

I wouldn't have jumped on it if they didn't have h.265 support since that's the new standard, and the tv has 802.11ac which should be able to handle 4k but still don't want to use wifi

#1 STUNNA

Netflix say I'm already signed up for the 4 screens + Ultra HD (4k) streaming plan at the granfathered rate of $7.99/mo

I'll take it!

nfnsquared

Died? What died? FYI, the light engine can be rebuilt for ~$260. Those sxrd's have a FANTASTIC picture!!!

I love my KDS-R50XBR1!!!

thunder04

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I'm considering buying a new TV for the new house and want to go 4K for the future, but a friend of mine who works in A/V said to hold off on 4K for at least another year as there is no set standard yet (??). Obviously this thread contradicts what I'm about to ask...but is there any reason to hold off?

Ken1997TL

Price is the the main reason why I'm holding off. That and the fact there isn't enough media out there to justify it for me.

justnspace

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#1 STUNNA

Homie is straight tripping. I think these are the first generation 4k TVs with the h.265 codec but it is the future and replacement of h.264

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding

This is how I feel when I walk into best buy

#1 STUNNA

IDK what exactly died but when I turn it on it makes a loud buzzing noise. I figured I'd rather take the money I'd spend to fix it and put that toward a new TV.

It had good PQ but it's black level was pretty lame being an RPTV and all, still better PQ than a DLP RPTV.

I'm interested to see how well the local dimming works on the 4k TV

nfnsquared

Sounds like just a bad lamp which you can replace yourself for ~$50.... I wouldn't trash the TV just yet....

#1 STUNNA

I've replaced the lamp a couple times it's never done this. It has a lamp light that flashes when it needs to be replaced, it wasn't flashing.

I'm not putting anymore money into an 8 year old TV

#1 STUNNA

Update time: Been had this TV since the 20th, shit is so cash money!

However I noticed right away that one of my HDMI ports was no bueno. the image would cut in and out but when the device was plugged into any other port it was fine.

So I'm going to take exchange it for another one.

Plot thickens. I was one the BB site today just checking up on how to do all this and I noticed that my TV was now on sale for four hundred fucking dollars less! $400! What. The. Fuck.

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I called those assholes up and they're going to credit me back $400!!!! Oooooooooh

That's what's up!

So yeah if you want one the 55in Vizio 4k is going for $999 right now!

VIZIO PSeries 55" Class 5458" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P552UI-B2 - Best Buy

60in for $1500
VIZIO PSeries 60" Class 60" Diag. LED 2160p Smart 4K Ultra HD TV Black P602UI-B3 - Best Buy

#1 STUNNA

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Why do those links take you to eBay instead of the best buy site?

justnspace

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lol wtf. that is weird

Doom878

I believe PS4 is going 4K this summer with a new model. I plan on purchasing one by the end of the year and a TV either around BF or next year. How are these for sports, movies, games, etc? Are they going to start making 4K discs? I have netflix already via ethernet on the PS3.

2001AudiS4

If you are getting a 4K tv without HDMI 2.0, you are limiting your content to 24 fps. This may be fine for movies but more movies will be made with 60fps and gaming can definitely take advantage of 60 fps. Some say that for true 4K, you NEED HDMI 2.0. While I don't necessarily agree with that, I would suggest holding out if possible. Of course with technology, you will NEVER catch up, sooooo...

Sarlacc

Aside from the shitty Hobbit trilogy, which blew cock in 48fps...and the new Avatars whenever the hell they finally start production, which might shoot in 60fps...and might change to something totally new...I dont see this being any sort of a possibility.

Sarlacc

ding ding ding

4k in the home is nothing but a marketing scam at this point in time. Aside from the fact 95% of the homes out there will NEVER need 4k.

All those movies 99% of you are watching digitally projected on big screens at the movies are 2k.

Doom878

Thank you gentlemen. With the information, I'll hold off on a TV then. I know that PS4 games are getting made in 60fps but probably at 1080p resolution.

I read this article regarding content. Are these mostly 1080p content upconverted to 4K at a premium?

4K content guide: What to watch in 4K today - CNET

maharajamd

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4K isn't a gimmick. It's just not utilized in the overwhelming majority of our viewable media...yet. But that will come in time. Unlike 3D, 4k will become common.

Games, menus, and everything else can take advantage now though.

Sarlacc

At this exact moment in time 4k is a gimmick to generate more sales.

Will the content eventually be there for consumer consumption...one day.

Wanna hear a secret? The most popular motion picture camera on the market right now, the Arri Alexa...isnt 4k....its a 3.5K sensor that shoots 2k...and 90% of TV shows using it shoot 1080. Though there is a firmware update to now shoot "4k"UHD...

Its not about resolution...no one NEEDS 4k in their homes, hell no one really NEEDS it in the theater. Its distributors and TV makers coming up with new ways to get consumers to spend their money.

Sarlacc

If you want a new TV wait for new sets that will have Dolby Vision. You can thank me when it happens. Vizio should start making making them this summer followed closely by other manufacturers. The standards and abilities of those TVs will trump anything on the market.

Doom878

So it's better to get 1080p 60fps? Is FPS the key?

EDIT: Saw you comment on Dolby. Thanks!

Sarlacc

wait, what??? No...60fps is garbage.

You want all tv and movie content playing at 24p. Sports whatever, yes people like the higher refresh rates better. Video Games...no idea, when I do play which is extremely rare these days its always with all that refresh crap turned off.

maharajamd

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- A gimmick is a trick or deception, this is a technology.
- It's not a secret.
- And it's not ENTIRELY about resolution.

Sarlacc

So no one is being deceived in thinking they need to have 4k right NOW??? As I said, at this moment in time, 4k is a gimmick.

Perhaps you knew, perhaps you didn't. But I'll bet if you did we were the only two people here who did.

Its not about resolution...you know who forced the whole 4k, 5k, and now 6k hype....RED...was it going to come eventually, yes....but they used their marketing prowess and pushed hard down everyones throats.

maharajamd

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General facts about displays.

The higher the resolution, the better.
The higher the refresh rate, the better.
The higher the brightness, the better. (This leads to many things being "better")

I can go home right now and take advantage of 4K. That's not a trick, it's truth.

To me you are basically saying all early technology adopters have bought into some trick. I disagree. Is the early tech worth your while? That's up for debate.

I didn't know the name of the camera, just the methods. And I imagine in this sea of random backgrounds, we aren't the only ones "in the know".
looked recently, but, will you even be able to buy a Dolby Vision TV non 4K?

I'll take a 90" 4K DV OLED set for $2000 Alex.

That too is something worth mentioning. 4K becomes more and more relevant in the home because TVs, even in relation to the viewing distance, are becoming larger and larger. Resolution does matter.

Sarlacc

We'll have to agree to disagree.

If you see dolby vision in person, the increased contrast alone gives the perception of increased resolution.

All 4k is going to do is the same thing HD did upon its arrival...get people complaining that the image is too clear, that can see all the flaws in peoples skin and all the special fx make up's seems and cheats.

The one thing that I agree with is the size to distance ratio and all the people buying larger TVs because they are uneducated in viewing distance vs screen size and feel that they need huge sets...

BUT...you could achieve the same result with 2K...less bandwidth, less compression, No consumer would even know the difference and you'd be able to jam larger TVs in the home at closer distances.

So...tell me again how 4k isn't a gimmick at this moment in time?

maharajamd

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Better brightness, colors, and contrast are great. But resolution they are not.

I'm very surprised that hear someone of your profession talking about 2K in terms of resolution. 2K is barely even an incremental update to 1080 and in reality is just an aspect ratio standard set by the DCI. A ~3.5% increase in pixels isn't going to change anything. Especially considering it's just an increase in one direction.

Some are uneducated, some are not. You're line of thought is set with the idea of a certain resolution. The math can change though. I want a bigger TV at the same distance. How can I maintain a level of clarity in that equation while getting a 20% bigger TV? Upping the resolution obviously.

I'm all for Dolby Vision. A cleaner more standard image from the camera to the screen is great. But again that doesn't replace resolution.