YeuEmMaiMai

3d is never going to be more than a fad until they have figured out how to make a holodeck...3d as it is implimented now just plain SUCKS donkey nuts

Scrib

They're your eyes...

jupitersolo

Oh I agree, but when the picture is better in 2D because of the chipset of the 3D generator, it's worth looking at.

Majofo

You're seeing things Jup.. did you ever consider the store made some adjustments and corrections to the 3D TV to make it more appealing?

jupitersolo

Go look for yourself, I saw, I look at the menu's, settings were the same. And from what I'm reading online, the 3D engine is making a better picture in 2D for all makes.

imj0257

iTrader: (1)

No fucking way am I buying a TV where I have to wear special glasses every time I want to watch it .

LCD or LED is just fine with me.

jupitersolo

You only wear glasses if you're watching 3D. 3D TV's are LED TV's...

YeuEmMaiMai

improvements in 2d picture quality would have came regardless of the chip processing 3d....

jupitersolo

It does not, the same TV, Model 6000, doesn't have the 3D engine and the picture looks worst. It is the only difference.

YeuEmMaiMai

you totally missed what I said.

3D TV does not automatically guarentee better 2D picture quality. I said that the improvements to 2D picture qaulity still would have happened without the 3D part....

Of course 3D chips would have better 2D processors as they contain newer improved versions of the 2D engins from previous chips that were intergrated into the 3D chip..... You don't honestly think that they said "OK, we have reached the 2D pennacle thus we are not going to make any improvements when designing 3d" did you?

BTW, Typicall TV video processing is pretty bad when you put it up against the likes of ATi and Nvidia video processing ability. those scalers and image processors are second to none when it comes to PQ as they have to be able to drive diplay resolutions that TVs can only dream about having......gotta love being able to scale an image to 2160* 3840 or even 4320*3200 (using 4 1080p panels for example in eyefinity) It can go even higher with 6 panels if you use 2560*1600 displays

It should be this way as ATI and Nvidia have had DECADES to work on and continually perfect their design adaprting it to new display.

There is a reason that the PS3 is considered one of if not the best looking Blu-ray players around and it all has to do with that video processor inside of it (the Xbox would be the same if they actually allowed it to play Blu-rays)

jupitersolo

No, I got what you said, it doesn't matter, you're trying to say the image would be better if it didn't have the 3D engine. What I said I saw means what you're saying doesn't matter. The TV without the 3D engine doesn't look like it, SO having the 3D engine means something for the 2D picture.

So them using a different chipset, processor in the 3D TV, than they do in the 2D TV, Means it going to have a better picture.

YeuEmMaiMai

No, what I said is that the IMPROVEMENTS IN 2D PICTURE QUALITY would have happened regardless of 3D....

It is only LOGICAL to incorporate 2D PQ the improvements into the 3D chip as it also has to display 2D content.......

and I used 'puter GPUs to back up my claim as they hae been the KINGS of PQ for an eternity (long before 3D became available on TVs)

Scrib

I've moved past the 80". For the money, I'm better served going a 70" (or smaller), getting all the bells and be done. Even if it's 3D, the 80" is still over 4K. That's a lot of scratch.

Find me a good TV. I am thinking the 735 series Sharp, 70". Other thoughts?

EL_PIC

IMO - 3D/glasses are when you go to theathers and often for kids.
I have a new 55 inch Sony Highend and still have no glasses.
With highend TV's you get a lot of extra bells on it ...
those not so important to me are 3D and Internet -
those that are important to me are chip processor and screen glass.
those that go either way are super hz rates.
Mine is midrange 480 hz and I do football.
Picture quality is #1 and Great Sound is #2.

Sony 55 LED kdl55hx729 w Denon 2112CI AVR w/ Pradigm LRC Atoms

d-j-m

Whatever you do, go LED. It's superior to plasma and LCD IMHO.

I was looking at the Sony Bravia in regular LED and 3D LED. Why? $100 price difference on a sale!

Like everyone else, I agree there's not a ton of 3D content or use for the 3D feature (on my cable box a 3D channel just appeared). For the price different though? You'd be silly not to go 3D. When watching anything 2D you still have a HD LED picture, plus the option to play 2D in 3D (so long as you don't expect full 3D effects like some people).

Then I learned about the Sony 3D glasses that are $130+ tax each and there's none included in the box. They are on batteries (thankfully now rechargeable) and flicker in order to produce the 3D effect. Also, the TV itself may show some flickering on the Sony (or any 'active' glasses TV). Could cause headaches. When you turn the glasses sideways to lay down they go black and you can't see anything. Also from angles they can be a pain. The TV is Wifi ready but you need to buy the connector which isn't included in the box.

The solution? Fuck those 'active' glasses & added costs. LG offers the 3D TV with regular glasses that are much cheaper (more like $10 a piece or buy a pack of them). Plus 4 glasses are included with the TV purchase. Plus it's Wifi ready WITH the connector you need. Once you get behind the LG remote you'll realize they've really done a good job on this TV. You can scroll around the screen to choose apps and etc. All the features you need are there. 4 HDMI, USBs, etc. If you want to go 3D at this point I highly recommend LG over the bigger brands. I think a 65" would be ideal.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

sorry to bring back the old thread.

Does anyone have an experience watching a football game in 3D? How is it? I just bought Samsung 55D7000 and was wondering how it really is. I would probably didn't really care about 3D, but the 3D glasses just came with the package for free.

Thanks guys!

By the way, the TV is NICE. The best part is its design.

Sarlacc

If you are talking about using the TVs built in fake 3D....then bang your head into a wall....cause yuck.

If the game is being broadcast in 3D on a 3D channel...no clue.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

This one. Like those games that ESPN 3D channels broadcast.

Acura_Swag

heard those 3d tvs mess with your vision after a while, idk if its true or just people talking nonsense but it would be nice to have one of those things atleast in one room of the house