Sarlacc's Reno Thread
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I personally don't see the need to spend extra money on quartz. We have granite in our kitchen (Alaskan White), we used our kitchen very heavy and the granite is still perfect! Sealing takes about 15 minutes to do and I only do it once a year.
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Listening in...going to be in the same boat soon.
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Quartz wasn't that much more per slab for us so it was a no brainer.. so i guess it's another YMMV topic
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I don't want granite because of sealing. This home will potentially become a rental, and I want the least amount of maintenance for that reason.
I was set on Quartz, but I was a friends new dental office and saw he did everything in Corian and thought it looked nice, so I was curious.
I was set on Quartz, but I was a friends new dental office and saw he did everything in Corian and thought it looked nice, so I was curious.
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If you can get quartz for the same price as granite than I could see the point otherwise I wouldn't overpay for quartz.
I personally like the look of granite over quartz, granite is 100% natural and every slab is slightly different which is a plus in my eyes, makes it unique.
I personally like the look of granite over quartz, granite is 100% natural and every slab is slightly different which is a plus in my eyes, makes it unique.
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If you can get quartz for the same price as granite than I could see the point otherwise I wouldn't overpay for quartz.
I personally like the look of granite over quartz, granite is 100% natural and every slab is slightly different which is a plus in my eyes, makes it unique.
I personally like the look of granite over quartz, granite is 100% natural and every slab is slightly different which is a plus in my eyes, makes it unique.
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I'm going to consolidate under this thread since I probably have a few question to ask.
Mods please move my other 2 threads into this one if it makes it easier.
Mods please move my other 2 threads into this one if it makes it easier.
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You may have to just price both out and have the the most economical route be the route you take then Sarlacc .
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I'm only doing one bathroom, but yes I will be changing the cabinet. Reason is its a single vanity 72" long countertop...its wasted space. I want to move to a 36-48" vanity and fill in the gap (wall side) with a built in linen cabinet.
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I'm only doing one bathroom, but yes I will be changing the cabinet. Reason is its a single vanity 72" long countertop...its wasted space. I want to move to a 36-48" vanity and fill in the gap (wall side) with a built in linen cabinet.
If that's not a double vanity, that's an idiotic waste of space . 6 FOOT single vanity?!??
Good call!
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Maybe sarlacc likes to do extra extra long lines of cocaine of his bathroom vanity. Is that so wrong?!
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OK...last question for now..and this is a design one.
I have 8'10" ceilings in main rooms in the condo. In the kitchen there is an 11" soffit, 3.5" of crown moulding, and then the cabinets. That 3.5" of moulding is completely dead space behind it (I cut a small area and looked) And I know I need some space to be able to level the wall cabinets. But I have no intention of replacing the ugly decorative moulding.
But I think knowing I have that dead space opens up some options. My current wall cabinets are 35" not including the light rail. Its not a standard size (36" is) So, I know I can go with 36" cabinets...mount them 1" higher to maintain space, and fill in the gap with a plain modern looking filler panel.
But humor me for a second. What if I decided I liked the Ikea cabinets...which come in flavors of 40" and 30" for wall cabinets. Now, 40" is still too big and hangs to low.
But what if I installed 30" wall cabinets which would make them floating cabinets with 8.5" of gap between the top of the cabinet and soffit.
Would that look weird because of the soffit? If I did do that should I get a quote for framing out and bringing the soffit down and making it look similar to what I have now?
One idea, pending money...is to run LED strips on the tops of the cabinets for an accent light in that gap area, if that 8.5" open area was deemed fine to leave open.
Thoughts on this?
I have 8'10" ceilings in main rooms in the condo. In the kitchen there is an 11" soffit, 3.5" of crown moulding, and then the cabinets. That 3.5" of moulding is completely dead space behind it (I cut a small area and looked) And I know I need some space to be able to level the wall cabinets. But I have no intention of replacing the ugly decorative moulding.
But I think knowing I have that dead space opens up some options. My current wall cabinets are 35" not including the light rail. Its not a standard size (36" is) So, I know I can go with 36" cabinets...mount them 1" higher to maintain space, and fill in the gap with a plain modern looking filler panel.
But humor me for a second. What if I decided I liked the Ikea cabinets...which come in flavors of 40" and 30" for wall cabinets. Now, 40" is still too big and hangs to low.
But what if I installed 30" wall cabinets which would make them floating cabinets with 8.5" of gap between the top of the cabinet and soffit.
Would that look weird because of the soffit? If I did do that should I get a quote for framing out and bringing the soffit down and making it look similar to what I have now?
One idea, pending money...is to run LED strips on the tops of the cabinets for an accent light in that gap area, if that 8.5" open area was deemed fine to leave open.
Thoughts on this?
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Yeah, the single vanity is all the way to the left and then is just open counter top. You can't put a double vanity because the toilet sits parallel to back half of the counter. I open up that part of the counter a year or so ago and made shelves in it. But if I rip it out and go with a 12" or 18" custom linen cabinet, that would be perfect and give me more storage.
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Any reason for replacing the cabinets? They don't look bad at all!
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Crown moulding is a popular thing to have. I think your kitchen will look "cheaper" if you put 30" cabinets in. People like that floor to ceiling look when it comes to cabinets. Dead space is generally not a good selling feature in the kitchen, even if the shelves at the very top are completely out of reach. I know. Go figure.
The other reason for it is that it may hide some inconsistencies in the bulkhead above the cabinet. A builder doesn't have to make it perfect if they know the gap is intended to be covered anyway.
personally, I have a small kitchen and I think more cabinet space is always preferred. But then again, I'm 6'7" and don't really have an issue reaching up high
The other reason for it is that it may hide some inconsistencies in the bulkhead above the cabinet. A builder doesn't have to make it perfect if they know the gap is intended to be covered anyway.
personally, I have a small kitchen and I think more cabinet space is always preferred. But then again, I'm 6'7" and don't really have an issue reaching up high
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I agree. I would leave them as is and just replace the sink/countertop. White cabinets are also nice because they never really go out of style. It's also easy as hell to make them fit the decorating "theme" of a house.
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I mean, you keep saying it's not your dream home, if it's going to be rental property just leave it as is! I think they look fantastic as is..
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The picture doesnt do it justice...if you look closely at sink cabinet the right panel (on the left side) has almost worn through its laminate...damn near EVERY cabinet door has the laminate separating at the edges. All the laminate on the doors, light rail, and trim near the stove have "shrinky dinked" pulled away and separating. And in the cabinet boxes have started to yellow...most apparent in the corner of the "L" of the kitchen where there is about 3" of filler on each side of the cabinet.
That the technical. I also hate the decorative doors, the decorative light rail, and the crown moulding. I like clean and modern. And with the corner of the wall cabinets, I want to put a corner piece, which would add a cabinet and advantage of the wasted dead corner space.
That the technical. I also hate the decorative doors, the decorative light rail, and the crown moulding. I like clean and modern. And with the corner of the wall cabinets, I want to put a corner piece, which would add a cabinet and advantage of the wasted dead corner space.
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Ahh.. okay, so there was definitely more context.
So there's two approaches you can do:
1. Replace all the cabinet doors with new shaker style doors, respray the insides, replace hardware, and replace the crown molding to more modern flat ones.
2. Replace it all with 36" cabinets.
I wouldn't go 40 unless you think you can cut into the soffit. Do you know if it's just blank space and they installed the soffit just to bring down the cabinets?? Or is there ducting behind it or a beam?
So there's two approaches you can do:
1. Replace all the cabinet doors with new shaker style doors, respray the insides, replace hardware, and replace the crown molding to more modern flat ones.
2. Replace it all with 36" cabinets.
I wouldn't go 40 unless you think you can cut into the soffit. Do you know if it's just blank space and they installed the soffit just to bring down the cabinets?? Or is there ducting behind it or a beam?
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I will be keeping white cabinets, but I intend to go slab (totally flat) and high gloss white. So, I am keeping it to help look "open" and spacious, and be accessible to anyone's decorating style.
That said, who knows if or when it would become a rental property or outright sale. So, for now and however long more I stay here, I want to make it somewhat the way I want. And there is enough reason, i feel, to warrant doing it.
That said, who knows if or when it would become a rental property or outright sale. So, for now and however long more I stay here, I want to make it somewhat the way I want. And there is enough reason, i feel, to warrant doing it.
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Ahh.. okay, so there was definitely more context.
So there's two approaches you can do:
1. Replace all the cabinet doors with new shaker style doors, respray the insides, replace hardware, and replace the crown molding to more modern flat ones.
2. Replace it all with 36" cabinets.
I wouldn't go 40 unless you think you can cut into the soffit. Do you know if it's just blank space and they installed the soffit just to bring down the cabinets?? Or is there ducting behind it or a beam?
So there's two approaches you can do:
1. Replace all the cabinet doors with new shaker style doors, respray the insides, replace hardware, and replace the crown molding to more modern flat ones.
2. Replace it all with 36" cabinets.
I wouldn't go 40 unless you think you can cut into the soffit. Do you know if it's just blank space and they installed the soffit just to bring down the cabinets?? Or is there ducting behind it or a beam?
Its not just the doors that need replacing, because the cabinets are turning yellow. This is why I initially was getting quotes for refacing...which prove to be outrageous.
I dont want to go 40"...never really considered as an option, was just mentioned those are ikeas only two standard sizes/offerings.
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When I say "its not my dream home" its just to put in the context of I'm not going all out with full custom design, style, quality, and colors. I want some of my style, and value in good quality. But I know this isn't my forever home, so I'm not looking to sink everything into it.
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Yeah, I wouldn't bother with 30" cabinets.. Like taco said, you're going to want more real-estate... I've always hated the floating design.. it's an idiotic waste of space and just another place for dust to accumulate.
So by process of elimination, sounds like you're getting new 36" cabinets soon
Yeah, I wouldn't bother with 30" cabinets.. Like taco said, you're going to want more real-estate... I've always hated the floating design.. it's an idiotic waste of space and just another place for dust to accumulate.
So by process of elimination, sounds like you're getting new 36" cabinets soon
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Yeah, I wouldn't bother with 30" cabinets.. Like taco said, you're going to want more real-estate... I've always hated the floating design.. it's an idiotic waste of space and just another place for dust to accumulate.
So by process of elimination, sounds like you're getting new 36" cabinets soon
Yeah, I wouldn't bother with 30" cabinets.. Like taco said, you're going to want more real-estate... I've always hated the floating design.. it's an idiotic waste of space and just another place for dust to accumulate.
So by process of elimination, sounds like you're getting new 36" cabinets soon
My lowest quote so far, was Lowes. For their Euro style Latitude Cabinets for about $7200 for just cabinets. Which, believe it or not, is $10k cheaper than I was quoted from two places for just refacing the cabinets and replacing the doors/drawers...
I kept Ikea in the back of my head, because that would have only been about $5-6....damned swedes and their lack of compliant options.
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I think the dead space would result in a lot of people looking at it and saying "Why did they do that?"... I say fill the gap with cabinet and some cover piece.
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What about those places that sell directly to you? You measure (or have a pro measure for you) and then pick the options online and they make and ship the boxes to you for installation. I have seen them a few times on the house reno shows, but cannot remember the names of any right now.
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If you're interested, I can give you the number to the sub my GC had do our cabinet. I really liked his work but everything was 'custom'. Not sure if pricing will be better or worse but worth a shot?
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Sure why not. Thanks man. You were happy with his work, quality, responsiveness, etc?
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What about those places that sell directly to you? You measure (or have a pro measure for you) and then pick the options online and they make and ship the boxes to you for installation. I have seen them a few times on the house reno shows, but cannot remember the names of any right now.
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Anyone else come here thinking it was a thread about Nevada? no? just me? ok...
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My two cents. I like the cabinets they are clean, not outdated, the trim work also is nice.
My two cents part II. I would replace the counter add a glass tile back splash and replace the dishwasher and appliances if they are outdated.
My two cents part II. I would replace the counter add a glass tile back splash and replace the dishwasher and appliances if they are outdated.
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Thats because you didn't read any of my follow up posts about the cabinets falling apart/discoloring.
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Sarlacc- why not just remove that stupid bulk head? Yes, it will add some dollars to your construction costs, but it seems its more trouble than its worth. After that, I'd just go with the 40" ikea cabinets. They're cheap AF, but they are actually good quality cabinets.
I used to work with a guy who would design and build homes, as a side project (he would do like 1 to 1.5 houses a year). I remember him telling me that he used to get the much pricier custom cabinets, but after comparing side by side with ikea, he really couldn't justify spending 3 times more, to get maybe 10% better quality. That, and I believe they come with a 10 year warranty now too.
I put them in my basement suites- kind of annoying to assemble (like all ikea stuff), but very easy to hang and secure. I would put them in my own kitchen too.
I used to work with a guy who would design and build homes, as a side project (he would do like 1 to 1.5 houses a year). I remember him telling me that he used to get the much pricier custom cabinets, but after comparing side by side with ikea, he really couldn't justify spending 3 times more, to get maybe 10% better quality. That, and I believe they come with a 10 year warranty now too.
I put them in my basement suites- kind of annoying to assemble (like all ikea stuff), but very easy to hang and secure. I would put them in my own kitchen too.
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Too bad there isn`t a local carpenter that needs work or does side jobs that can help you out.
Our carpenters have jobs and help us out on there time off or when there work is slow. We buy the material and they install when we can`t or are busy doing other stuff.