Relocating Water Heater or tankless?

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Old 01-13-2017, 05:29 PM
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talked with the owner of the company, he actually talked me out of the softener, said i'd be fine having them come flush the system every 1-2 years for $150 a pop vs paying for a water softener (i'd require one outside, he said i'd be looking at $1,500-2,500 installed roughly). Esp considering all the rain we've gotten lately (officially out of a drought). Even if I have to replace the core, it's cheaper then going with the softener.


They come on Weds to install.


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Does it ever freeze in walnut creek?
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Does it ever freeze in walnut creek?
very very very rarely (and by that, maybe gets below 30 a handful of nights a year). That said, i'm told not to worry about this being outdoors, that they are designed for outdoor use and designed to handle freezing temps
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What brand unit are you going with? I'm really surprised it can go outside. Water lines run right into it so what's protecting them from freezing? I would put it in the garage, then just run the venting outside. Maybe they just don't want to drill the holes for the venting. These things require big vents. I replaced our electric water heater with a Rheem tankless and it has been great. I had to run 2 3" venting pipes outside which was a pain.
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It's a rinnai unit. Doing some reading tankless heaters were originally designed for outdoor use. And also have protections against freezing (to -30). That said, Pipes freezing isn't a concern out here.

Not a venting issue as venting is already in place on the old one. I asked the outside question to both quotes I got and neither were concerned at all. And frankly, having the heaters within 100 ft of both bathrooms now (they are the closest water source to the heater now vs being the furthest away is a huge + for me)
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Same brand we got, good choice
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clean install! enjoy the added room!

Does is have a recirculating pump? My uncle has a tankless that circulates hot water at a certain hour so you have instant hot water. Mine doesn't have that but it's located right under our kitchen so it's pretty quick where we use it most.
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Nah, not instant hot water, it takes a bit to essentially purge the water in the pipes before it gets hot but once its hot, it stays hot
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Originally Posted by CLpower
was the install inspected?
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Damn now I really want to do this. That is really small system outside.
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Originally Posted by gnuts
clean install! enjoy the added room!

Does is have a recirculating pump? My uncle has a tankless that circulates hot water at a certain hour so you have instant hot water. Mine doesn't have that but it's located right under our kitchen so it's pretty quick where we use it most.
It doesn't. Opted out for now, but can add later. Temp to the bathrooms is a little faster then with the tank since it's now right next to them. Kitchen takes about 20-30 seconds.

From the factory they are set to 120 degrees max. There was an adjustment in the panel I made that now allows me up to 140. This has also helped as we like it hot (we sweat when the heat is on)
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Damn now I really want to do this. That is really small system outside.
Seriously. The cost to put back where the old one was or put here was the same. So it was a no brainer.


That said, this was a purely selfish job. Our old heater was perfectly fine. But I figured it didn't have much time left (was actually put in in '95 not '99 like I thought)

I just really wanted the garage space. Overall everything came out to $3600
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Originally Posted by brian2
was the install inspected?
Sure...I looked at it
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Sure...I looked at it





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Sure...I looked at it
it wouldn't get by the town inspector
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Originally Posted by brian2
it wouldn't get by the town inspector
Just curious. Why is that?
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That looks awesome and something we've been looking at but we have electric and everyone is so back and forth on them.

As for the inspection, I'm curious as well.




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