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03-08-2016, 05:14 PM
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Have had it since 3/15 and have not touched it since initial programming. Very efficient once you get the programming right.
03-08-2016, 06:17 PM
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Nest still has the swing. Set your heat to 70 and the furnace will come on somewhere between 68-69.
03-10-2016, 03:46 PM
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I might be doing the same thing. I really like the Honeywell I have but I'm looking to get more into the whole smart home thing and Nest or Ecobee seem to be the way to go.
I'll be adding a smart irrigation controller soon (massive rebate from the city to do so) and want to add an Amazon Echo to run it all unless Google comes up with a competing product soon.
I'll be adding a smart irrigation controller soon (massive rebate from the city to do so) and want to add an Amazon Echo to run it all unless Google comes up with a competing product soon.
03-10-2016, 03:48 PM
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Ugh I like everything about it except the stupid swing range. At the very least they should have the option to disable the feature.
03-10-2016, 04:38 PM
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This one; Rain Bird ESP-SMTe Smart Irrigation Timers
Have had it since 3/15 and have not touched it since initial programming. Very efficient once you get the programming right.
Have had it since 3/15 and have not touched it since initial programming. Very efficient once you get the programming right.
I plan on getting this one:
This is another popular option though it always requires another device to do anything with it. So if you have someone else who needs to activate or deactivate the irrigation system they'll need to pair their phone or some device before they do anything. So I passed on this one:
03-10-2016, 05:31 PM
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Nothing else on the market even comes close! Do you really need to check your sprinklers from your phone?
03-14-2016, 06:37 AM
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That one looks intense. There are far easier ones on the market that are designed to work with wifi and your smart phones. How much did this thing run you if you don't mind me asking?
Yes sir. Check with your city/county/state, they might offer massive rebates to install one since irrigation systems use a ton of water. My city is offering up to $200 to put in a watersense certified controller.
I plan on getting this one:
Amazon.com : RainMachine HD-12 - The Forecast Sprinkler - Smart WiFi Irrigation Controller : Automatic Lawn Irrigation Controllers : Patio, Lawn & Garden
This is another popular option though it always requires another device to do anything with it. So if you have someone else who needs to activate or deactivate the irrigation system they'll need to pair their phone or some device before they do anything. So I passed on this one:
Amazon.com : Rachio Smart Sprinkler Controller, 2nd Generation : Patio, Lawn & Garden
Yes sir. Check with your city/county/state, they might offer massive rebates to install one since irrigation systems use a ton of water. My city is offering up to $200 to put in a watersense certified controller.
I plan on getting this one:
Amazon.com : RainMachine HD-12 - The Forecast Sprinkler - Smart WiFi Irrigation Controller : Automatic Lawn Irrigation Controllers : Patio, Lawn & Garden
This is another popular option though it always requires another device to do anything with it. So if you have someone else who needs to activate or deactivate the irrigation system they'll need to pair their phone or some device before they do anything. So I passed on this one:
Amazon.com : Rachio Smart Sprinkler Controller, 2nd Generation : Patio, Lawn & Garden
My current one the previous owner upgraded has a rain/moisture censure outside but having it on Wifi would be great. The app for the second one looks a little better from the two listing on amazon but I will have to check them out in more detail.
03-15-2016, 02:57 PM
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$185usd. When you decide what to buy, remember RainBird does sprinklers and all the other ones are SmartPhone bull shit! Watch this; Rain Bird ESP-SMT Training
Nothing else on the market even comes close! Do you really need to check your sprinklers from your phone?
Nothing else on the market even comes close! Do you really need to check your sprinklers from your phone?
The Rainbird looks fine but I don't really want to wire one of those external doodads outside. The wifi one works fine to determine if it is or isn't raining outside through weather forecasts. I'm looking for proactive adjustments rather than reactive and they both do that.
Agreed. The Rachio one has a better app but you HAVE to use the app to use/program the system. The Rain Machine has an on the unit interface in addition to the app. That, to me, has tons of value over a little bit better of an app in the event that I need to have some work done with/on the system. Also, they both interface with IFTTT and therefore various home automation solutions including Amazon Echo.
03-15-2016, 04:52 PM
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What if I said yes...
The Rainbird looks fine but I don't really want to wire one of those external doodads outside. The wifi one works fine to determine if it is or isn't raining outside through weather forecasts. I'm looking for proactive adjustments rather than reactive and they both do that.
The Rainbird looks fine but I don't really want to wire one of those external doodads outside. The wifi one works fine to determine if it is or isn't raining outside through weather forecasts. I'm looking for proactive adjustments rather than reactive and they both do that.
Have you seen the garage door opener you can control with your phone?
03-15-2016, 05:01 PM
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And yes I have heard about those. I'm secretly waiting and wishing for my GDO to sh1t the bed so I can get one of them.
03-15-2016, 08:05 PM
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No idea when mine got this software update but I noticed today that my Nest now shows the weather, time, temp, and humidity if I push it twice. I guess that's good that I didn't even notice when it got this update. It's just doing its thing.
03-16-2016, 05:47 PM
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I don't understand how I have owne mine for years and never once has it said change the filter.
03-22-2016, 07:37 PM
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Whoa, got an update on my iPhone app today. Auto-away can now track my phone and determine when I'm home. Been waiting for that feature for years.
It also said time to change my filter
It also said time to change my filter
03-31-2016, 07:55 AM
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03-31-2016, 09:24 AM
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Great idea if/when it works: https://nest.com/press/nest-introduc...-for-the-home/
03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
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Ugh, I really want to get further into the smart home but there are so many different fragmented systems that it's impossible to tell which will come out ahead in the end. I think I'm going to sit out on a connected system until that figures itself out.
04-04-2016, 03:21 PM
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04-04-2016, 07:22 PM
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IDK how legit this is but...
https://np.reddit.com/r/Nest/comment...uture_of_nest/
too which someone claiming to be a Nest engineer responded saying...
Nest?
https://np.reddit.com/r/Nest/comment...uture_of_nest/
Is anyone concerned about the future of Nest?
After the recent news of C-level executives jumping ship and it's poor performance after Google acquired them... I'm concerned Google will leave the consumers hanging (like they have done with other products)
After the recent news of C-level executives jumping ship and it's poor performance after Google acquired them... I'm concerned Google will leave the consumers hanging (like they have done with other products)
As a Nest engineer, I won't say any numbers that aren't public, but this company is already on deathwatch. Once that happens, most people will quickly have shiny paperweights because it's a constant firefight keeping these systems up. We have $340M in revenue, not profit, against a ~$500M budget. No new products since the purchase, and sales/growth numbers are dire. Our budget deal expires soon, and all the good engineers on my teams have discreetly indicated they are going to flee once their golden handcuffs unlock (many have already left despite sacrificing a lot of money to do so).
Tony and his goons demand crazy timelines so much that "crunch time" has basically lost meaning. Just when your labor bears fruit, they swoop in, 180 the specs you just delivered on, then have the gall to call your team "incompetent" for not reading their mind and delivering on these brand-new specs. I waste most of my time in pointless meetings, or defending my teams so they don't flip their desks and walk out. People fall asleep in corners and cry in the bathrooms, health and marriages are suffering. Already the churn is insane, close to half the company if not more. Skilled engineers can tell the environment is toxic, so we're filling vacancies with mostly sub-par talent.
Tony, you can't hide anything from engineers. We know how many units are actually being sold, how many subscriptions lapse, how many fail or get returned. We know about that time-bomb flaw you ignored so people will have to upgrade. We can see the data in those executive dashboards you think we don't know about. But go ahead, keep trashing us in public. We dare you to tell everyone just how much of that $340M was due to a simple Dropcam rebrand, and not the thermostats and smoke alarms. Good luck shipping that critical new project after restarting it for the umpteenth time.
Ah, that feels better. Now off to the other 4 meetings I have today.
Tony and his goons demand crazy timelines so much that "crunch time" has basically lost meaning. Just when your labor bears fruit, they swoop in, 180 the specs you just delivered on, then have the gall to call your team "incompetent" for not reading their mind and delivering on these brand-new specs. I waste most of my time in pointless meetings, or defending my teams so they don't flip their desks and walk out. People fall asleep in corners and cry in the bathrooms, health and marriages are suffering. Already the churn is insane, close to half the company if not more. Skilled engineers can tell the environment is toxic, so we're filling vacancies with mostly sub-par talent.
Tony, you can't hide anything from engineers. We know how many units are actually being sold, how many subscriptions lapse, how many fail or get returned. We know about that time-bomb flaw you ignored so people will have to upgrade. We can see the data in those executive dashboards you think we don't know about. But go ahead, keep trashing us in public. We dare you to tell everyone just how much of that $340M was due to a simple Dropcam rebrand, and not the thermostats and smoke alarms. Good luck shipping that critical new project after restarting it for the umpteenth time.
Ah, that feels better. Now off to the other 4 meetings I have today.
Nest?
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04-04-2016, 09:33 PM
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Google has a bad habit of buying companies and totally screwing them up. Maybe they will sell it to Honeywell for cheap.
04-04-2016, 09:49 PM
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My guess for the time-bomb is that it's the non replaceable battery in the thermostat. Mine doesn't use the battery much since I have a C wire but I suppose it could swell over time and crap out the circuit board. I used to manage servers that would do that. The RAID battery would swell and push against the board, the board would eventually flex enough that the server would crash and require the battery to be pulled or replaced.
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04-05-2016, 08:52 AM
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Google is probably buying time before they can release their overall smart home solution (Google On) that is centered around the On Hub router. Once that happens, it'll be the death blow to Nest which will hopefully be absorbed into Google On at that point.
04-07-2016, 08:56 AM
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That On Hub needs more network ports.
05-02-2016, 01:09 PM
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My parents just moved into their new home, and I drove down this weekend to see the plan and help a little bit. First thing was to replace the ass old mercury based honeywell thermostat.
My dad was looking at the Nest or the Honeywell. I have the Nest and its been fine. But I mentioned the Ecobee3 and home kit, etc.
Well, on a whim and some quick research (LTE at my parents house is terrible, and they wont have wifi until today) we ended up with the ecobee3.
Between my installing and playing with that, and a HUGE in-depth review I just on amazon. I have to say that it is a superior product to the Nest. Especially if you have a larger home with big variances in temperature. The remote sensors are very key. The interface is better. future home kit integration is a bonus for apple users.
My dad was looking at the Nest or the Honeywell. I have the Nest and its been fine. But I mentioned the Ecobee3 and home kit, etc.
Well, on a whim and some quick research (LTE at my parents house is terrible, and they wont have wifi until today) we ended up with the ecobee3.
Between my installing and playing with that, and a HUGE in-depth review I just on amazon. I have to say that it is a superior product to the Nest. Especially if you have a larger home with big variances in temperature. The remote sensors are very key. The interface is better. future home kit integration is a bonus for apple users.
05-02-2016, 01:16 PM
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I think I've been saying throughout this entire thread that the Nest needs remote sensors. That's what I *thought* the smoke detectors were going to do...
Plus, you're not dealing with Google with the ecobee...
Plus, you're not dealing with Google with the ecobee...
05-03-2016, 08:47 AM
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After moving and now needing two seperate thermostats. One for each floor I have been looking at the Ecobee actually.
It has great reviews it seems. So is the Ecobee 3 really as good as the reviews say in your opinion Sarlacc?
It has great reviews it seems. So is the Ecobee 3 really as good as the reviews say in your opinion Sarlacc?
05-04-2016, 12:41 AM
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I do like the touch screen interface much better than the "iPod" dial of the Nest. If I had to do it over again, I'd probably go ecobee.
05-04-2016, 09:19 AM
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Supposedly their new OnHub system will be awesome for home automation and coming out soon. The nest and the OnHub router will basically be key cornerstones of the system.
05-04-2016, 10:37 AM
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That is one of my hold backs on switching to the Ecobee3. Whatever I buy next I want to be compatible with some sort of hub device. Now I know it is now compatible with the Apple Home Kit and with the Amazon Echo but at least when using the Apple Home Kit you then lose the auto feature for the heating/air conditioning which to me makes it uselesss if I can't use the auto feature in the spring and fall.
Is the OnHub also a wireless access point cause I have finally got a really good one of those and whatever I get I just want it to connect to my exisiting infrastructure.
Is the OnHub also a wireless access point cause I have finally got a really good one of those and whatever I get I just want it to connect to my exisiting infrastructure.
05-04-2016, 10:57 AM
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That is one of my hold backs on switching to the Ecobee3. Whatever I buy next I want to be compatible with some sort of hub device. Now I know it is now compatible with the Apple Home Kit and with the Amazon Echo but at least when using the Apple Home Kit you then lose the auto feature for the heating/air conditioning which to me makes it uselesss if I can't use the auto feature in the spring and fall.
Is the OnHub also a wireless access point cause I have finally got a really good one of those and whatever I get I just want it to connect to my exisiting infrastructure.
Is the OnHub also a wireless access point cause I have finally got a really good one of those and whatever I get I just want it to connect to my exisiting infrastructure.
with special antenna's that arent being used at the moment.
so, it'll most likely be a good access point.
so, most likely, you will be able to hook up Ecobee and have it automated
also, this week, On hub supports IFTTT...
I havent found any useful "recipes"
but i'm sure IFTTT could be useful to some
05-04-2016, 12:44 PM
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My only issue is I need super long range coverage. I want to have coverage in my backyard even. My current router Asus-AC68U is listed as one of the top ones for range. I can get usable signal in almost all of my backyard and most of my front yard right now. No dead spots in the entire house either obviously.
05-04-2016, 01:19 PM
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Funny. My dad just texted because they finally got their wifi, so the ecobee finally went online. He got an email saying the remote sensor wasn't assembled properly and provided a way to fix it.
05-04-2016, 03:05 PM
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at it's core, it's a router.
with special antenna's that arent being used at the moment.
so, it'll most likely be a good access point.
so, most likely, you will be able to hook up Ecobee and have it automated
also, this week, On hub supports IFTTT...
I havent found any useful "recipes"
but i'm sure IFTTT could be useful to some
with special antenna's that arent being used at the moment.
so, it'll most likely be a good access point.
so, most likely, you will be able to hook up Ecobee and have it automated
also, this week, On hub supports IFTTT...
I havent found any useful "recipes"
but i'm sure IFTTT could be useful to some
Who knows! Maybe they are a dedicated frequency for onhub components and accessories so they run without taking up bandwidth from other components and to increase security? I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
05-04-2016, 03:31 PM
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What one do you have? My router sucks the big one and is starting to fail (drops connection all the time until you reboot the device) so I'm in the market for a new one. Would like one that's reliable. My old WRT54G kicked ass for years but I needed one with more bandwidth for streaming and games. The Netgear one I have now is only a year and a half old and is already dying.
This is my 4th different wireless router over about the last 10 years and it by far has the largest range signal of any of them. I have not really had it slow down on me at all either even when downloading something on my desktop, gaming on my Xbox, and my gf streaming videos on her tablet or phone at the same time. I have between 10-15 devices connected to it at any time with no issues. Obviously they are not all being used at the same time though.
05-04-2016, 03:33 PM
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You can get a thermostat and 3 sensors for almost right at $300 right now if you buy the Ecobee3 with 1 Sensor and then 2 sensors package seperate. Its like $15 more if you but a package deal right no on Amazon for anyone that is interested.
