Nest Thermostat
04-01-2012, 06:43 PM
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All the other thermostats I have used had an option to program the fan only to run at set hours for a set amount of time so the HEPA filter would filter the air. I had it set to run 5min every hour, the NEST will not do this. I guess they could include it in a future update.
04-01-2012, 07:12 PM
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I didn't even consider features like that. My thermostat guesstimates filter consumption based on measured CFMs vs blower speed. I can change the "percent consumed" by simply opening and closing ducts 
. It'll display CFMs and the RPM of the blower in real time (along with a bunch of other stuff) which I thought was cool.
. It'll display CFMs and the RPM of the blower in real time (along with a bunch of other stuff) which I thought was cool.
04-05-2012, 08:37 AM
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We've been working for months on a software update that touches every part of Nest. With Nest 2.0 you'll find many refinements and two exclusive new features: Airwave™ and
Enhanced Energy History. Airwave can save up to 30% on your cooling costs and Energy History now lets you dig into a detailed breakdown of your energy use.
Last night your Nest was updated, as long as it was connected to Wi-Fi.
Enhanced Energy History. Airwave can save up to 30% on your cooling costs and Energy History now lets you dig into a detailed breakdown of your energy use.
Last night your Nest was updated, as long as it was connected to Wi-Fi.
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04-05-2012, 02:23 PM
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Cnet has a couple good articles/reviews on it I was reading through their iPad app this morning.
04-05-2012, 09:52 PM
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Installed this afternoon. Working with computers since Cobal, punch cards and 8" floppy disks and it still took (2) calls to tech support to get it up and running. I will post updates after a few days. So far me likie.
04-06-2012, 12:41 AM
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Well, at least you're open minded, post your thoughts after a week or so.
04-06-2012, 08:35 AM
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04-06-2012, 06:40 PM
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At work this morning I had the overwhelming urge to turn the A/C on about the time my wife was showering to go to work. Thought better of it though, I could have been hurt when she got home tonight!
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04-10-2012, 09:21 AM
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I've been considering one of these because my wife finds our existing unit too complex to operate. The simple twist-of-the-dial interface on the Nest is really appealing for her, as is the elimination of the need to switch between heat and cool modes, but I have a couple of reservations for my specific application:
1) My thermostat (this Trane controller) is located in my formal dining room, which is seldom used except by the dog who likes to laze around by the window there. The proximity sensor view in the thermostat would rarely sense anyone even when we're home. Will this cause the Nest to always think we're away?
2) I've got just a single zone for a 2-story, 3600 sq. ft. house (5400 if you include the basement). It's heated/cooled by a single large Trane 95% efficiency furnace and air conditioner unit. The entire HVAC system is about 3 years old. Can I expect the Nest unit to be significantly more proficient at keeping my house comfortable than the existing controller?
3) My family's schedule isn't terribly predictable and I doubt my wife will take the time to constantly jigger about with the thermostat. How much touching of the thermostat is required to get through the learning period?
1) My thermostat (this Trane controller) is located in my formal dining room, which is seldom used except by the dog who likes to laze around by the window there. The proximity sensor view in the thermostat would rarely sense anyone even when we're home. Will this cause the Nest to always think we're away?
2) I've got just a single zone for a 2-story, 3600 sq. ft. house (5400 if you include the basement). It's heated/cooled by a single large Trane 95% efficiency furnace and air conditioner unit. The entire HVAC system is about 3 years old. Can I expect the Nest unit to be significantly more proficient at keeping my house comfortable than the existing controller?
3) My family's schedule isn't terribly predictable and I doubt my wife will take the time to constantly jigger about with the thermostat. How much touching of the thermostat is required to get through the learning period?
04-10-2012, 10:41 AM
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7 days to learn I believe...and then it self adjusts from there, every time another adjustment is made.
04-10-2012, 11:10 AM
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I've been considering one of these because my wife finds our existing unit too complex to operate. The simple twist-of-the-dial interface on the Nest is really appealing for her, as is the elimination of the need to switch between heat and cool modes, but I have a couple of reservations for my specific application:
1) My thermostat (this Trane controller) is located in my formal dining room, which is seldom used except by the dog who likes to laze around by the window there. The proximity sensor view in the thermostat would rarely sense anyone even when we're home. Will this cause the Nest to always think we're away?
2) I've got just a single zone for a 2-story, 3600 sq. ft. house (5400 if you include the basement). It's heated/cooled by a single large Trane 95% efficiency furnace and air conditioner unit. The entire HVAC system is about 3 years old. Can I expect the Nest unit to be significantly more proficient at keeping my house comfortable than the existing controller?
3) My family's schedule isn't terribly predictable and I doubt my wife will take the time to constantly jigger about with the thermostat. How much touching of the thermostat is required to get through the learning period?
1) My thermostat (this Trane controller) is located in my formal dining room, which is seldom used except by the dog who likes to laze around by the window there. The proximity sensor view in the thermostat would rarely sense anyone even when we're home. Will this cause the Nest to always think we're away?
2) I've got just a single zone for a 2-story, 3600 sq. ft. house (5400 if you include the basement). It's heated/cooled by a single large Trane 95% efficiency furnace and air conditioner unit. The entire HVAC system is about 3 years old. Can I expect the Nest unit to be significantly more proficient at keeping my house comfortable than the existing controller?
3) My family's schedule isn't terribly predictable and I doubt my wife will take the time to constantly jigger about with the thermostat. How much touching of the thermostat is required to get through the learning period?
1) I think that's the case with most homes, every home my parents have owned it has been in the formal dining room. I'm sure Nest has accounted for this somehow.
2) It claims it can be more efficient, I'm not sure if any independent long term test have been done to prove it but I would imagine the Nest would be more proficient based on its learning/sensing ability.
3) Very little touching, I have touched the thermostat maybe 3 times total since I installed it, and once was to change the temp. Its simple as choosing "learn away" and boom it does.
04-21-2012, 12:43 PM
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Giving Nest's tech support a run.
04-21-2012, 02:36 PM
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Whenever there's a wire hooked into the Y port on the base, it claims a wiring fault.
If I connect either my Y or W wire into the W port, it's fine, but either of those into the Y port is not good.
AC voltage drops to 13V when anything's plugged into it.
Their Tier 2 support is supposed to call me back... 90 minutes ago or so.
If I connect either my Y or W wire into the W port, it's fine, but either of those into the Y port is not good.
AC voltage drops to 13V when anything's plugged into it.
Their Tier 2 support is supposed to call me back... 90 minutes ago or so.
04-21-2012, 03:13 PM
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They are sending me a new unit.
04-25-2012, 07:54 PM
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New one's in, all's well. The base on the new one uses different connectors for the wires.
Also, the base and unit are paired at the factory so I had to replace both.
Also, the base and unit are paired at the factory so I had to replace both.
04-26-2012, 06:20 AM
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Original:
Replacement:
If I were a betting man, based on the serial numbers I'd say the replacement is the older design revision. Either that, or they consider the parts interchangeable even though they are physically different.
Before anyone tries to troubleshoot my wiring, the label I have on the blue wire is wrong. It's the common wire and neither Nest likes it connected.
Replacement:
If I were a betting man, based on the serial numbers I'd say the replacement is the older design revision. Either that, or they consider the parts interchangeable even though they are physically different.
Before anyone tries to troubleshoot my wiring, the label I have on the blue wire is wrong. It's the common wire and neither Nest likes it connected.
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04-26-2012, 08:59 AM
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At the controller board in the furnace, it's connected to the "C" terminal.
05-29-2012, 04:27 PM
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FYI Nest is going to be sold at Apple Stores.
05-29-2012, 05:41 PM
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Funny...I was literally just coming to dig up this thread and see what the updates/current stats are?
Because I read the macrumors blurb about apple stores starting to sell these
Because I read the macrumors blurb about apple stores starting to sell these
05-30-2012, 08:34 AM
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05-30-2012, 11:25 PM
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Yes...we know.
Now, updates? Money saved? etc?
Now, updates? Money saved? etc?
06-01-2012, 10:06 AM
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I've only had mine a month and the weather has been swinging wildly from unseasonably cool to unseasonably hot, so it's hard to tell if it's saving me any money.
It's been solid since I installed it, though I've found the learning feature to be of limited use for my family since everyone but me would rather just endure than make adjustments.
I also had to shut off the auto-away because of its location in my house in the little-used dining room.
I do like the display that shows energy use daily by hours that the system was active, but I think that once a lot more data is available I'd like to see how usages correlate to daily temps, etc.
It's been solid since I installed it, though I've found the learning feature to be of limited use for my family since everyone but me would rather just endure than make adjustments.
I also had to shut off the auto-away because of its location in my house in the little-used dining room.
I do like the display that shows energy use daily by hours that the system was active, but I think that once a lot more data is available I'd like to see how usages correlate to daily temps, etc.
06-11-2012, 01:05 AM
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kind of interested in getting this. all we do with our thermostat is change the temp up and down and turn the heat/cool off.
and its located in our living room that we pass by from our garage or from the front door when we enter the house.
plus if we really wanted to, we can get a 2nd unit and place it upstairs to tell it we are still home.
and its located in our living room that we pass by from our garage or from the front door when we enter the house.
plus if we really wanted to, we can get a 2nd unit and place it upstairs to tell it we are still home.
06-11-2012, 01:08 AM
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i was also reading that the sides of the unit will pick up the color of the wall it rests up against. anyone have any pictures/experience with that?
06-11-2012, 08:54 AM
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A second Nest also has to be attached to the HVAC system, so you'd have to have multiple heating/cooling zones. You can't just have a second Nest that coordinates with the first using just the HVAC connections of the first.
10-03-2012, 10:08 AM
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http://modmyi.com/content/8940-next-...ny-fadell.html
Former Apple executive, Tony Fadell, recently introduced the second-iteration of his company’s Nest Learning Thermostat. The second-generation thermostat boasts features such as new hardware and software, wider compatibility, more apps and a refreshed design. The company is even announced that it is rolling out version 3.0 of its Nest software for its existing owners along with the debut of the second-generation Nest.
The new version of the Nest brings a completely revamped wiring layout with compatibility for two stage cooling and dual fuel systems, emergency heat, and whole-home humidifiers and dehumidifiers. The unit’s face is now a one-piece “lens,” which gets rid of the original device’s sensor grill. Features carried over from the first generation products include Wi-Fi connectivity, programmable functions based on usage patterns and remote control over wireless via supported apps. Along with the new software update, if you haven’t bought one already, the device looks quite tempting to purchase.
For those of you who didn't already know, Tony Fadell is also known as the “grandfather of the iPod” and he is the one who designed the new Nest with an aluminum enclosure and simple interface. Those who are interested in getting the second-generation Nest Learning Thermostat, can pre-order through the company’s online store for a price of $249.
The new version of the Nest brings a completely revamped wiring layout with compatibility for two stage cooling and dual fuel systems, emergency heat, and whole-home humidifiers and dehumidifiers. The unit’s face is now a one-piece “lens,” which gets rid of the original device’s sensor grill. Features carried over from the first generation products include Wi-Fi connectivity, programmable functions based on usage patterns and remote control over wireless via supported apps. Along with the new software update, if you haven’t bought one already, the device looks quite tempting to purchase.
For those of you who didn't already know, Tony Fadell is also known as the “grandfather of the iPod” and he is the one who designed the new Nest with an aluminum enclosure and simple interface. Those who are interested in getting the second-generation Nest Learning Thermostat, can pre-order through the company’s online store for a price of $249.
10-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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Oh noozzed they iScrewed you. Is there now going to be a hot new thermostat that everyone lines up for every year?
10-03-2012, 11:42 AM
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Damn. We even get haters in threads about thermostats that are remotely linked to Apple.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
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