Installing ribbon paver driveway
#1
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Installing ribbon paver driveway
Hey guys,
What is the process to do something similar to below?
I am trying to connect a detached double garage in the back corner of the backyard with the driveway. (The garage is currently used as a shed, and the seller of the home decided to grass over the connecting driveway to pick up greenspace). I.e. theres a 30x30 swatch of grass in between the garage and where the driveway ends.
I figured this is a good solution to keep the greenspace, but yet still have occasional access to the garage during times of inclimate weather.
Could I just lay down flagstone? Or do I need to dig up each individual spot, lay down sand, and then place the stone? Could be pretty meticulous. Although this is only a 30' span.
Is it easy to go out and buy loose flagstone? Not looking to spend a fortune.
THANKS
What is the process to do something similar to below?
I am trying to connect a detached double garage in the back corner of the backyard with the driveway. (The garage is currently used as a shed, and the seller of the home decided to grass over the connecting driveway to pick up greenspace). I.e. theres a 30x30 swatch of grass in between the garage and where the driveway ends.
I figured this is a good solution to keep the greenspace, but yet still have occasional access to the garage during times of inclimate weather.
Could I just lay down flagstone? Or do I need to dig up each individual spot, lay down sand, and then place the stone? Could be pretty meticulous. Although this is only a 30' span.
Is it easy to go out and buy loose flagstone? Not looking to spend a fortune.
THANKS
#2
Team Owner
The sand is used for leveling the stones. It might not be necessary if you drive your car over the stones a few times.
Around here, flagstone is not cheap. There are plenty of landscape companies, or just rock companies that have a multitude of these types of rocks kicking around, but again, not cheap.
Around here, flagstone is not cheap. There are plenty of landscape companies, or just rock companies that have a multitude of these types of rocks kicking around, but again, not cheap.
#3
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as long as the pieces of flagstone are big enough, you can get away with just laying it on top... cut the grass as short as possible and then lay the stone on top... the grass will grow up around the stones...
you usually have to worry about a solid base if the pavers are smaller and you are trying to level out a section... depending on where you are in NJ, there are three stone places that i used...
Pavers, Retaining Walls | Fairfield,Lincoln Park,Caldwell,Wayne,Cedar Grove, NJ
Curley Stone Company, Inc. | Masonry & Landscape Supplies
Home - Atlantic Stone IIAtlantic Stone II
you usually have to worry about a solid base if the pavers are smaller and you are trying to level out a section... depending on where you are in NJ, there are three stone places that i used...
Pavers, Retaining Walls | Fairfield,Lincoln Park,Caldwell,Wayne,Cedar Grove, NJ
Curley Stone Company, Inc. | Masonry & Landscape Supplies
Home - Atlantic Stone IIAtlantic Stone II
#5
Team Owner
it all depends where you're located. If the business can get the stones from close by, it'd be cheaper. I have no idea how pricing is in the US either- call around, get some quotes. They should be able to provide with a price/stone or price/pound of stone, or whatever.
#6
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you figure 30' span times 2 since you will have to do both sides like in the picture... you are looking at 60 linear feet... it's all going to depend on how wide the stones are, what they have there and what could be cut to your needs... add in the delivery fee and you are already tipping over into the 4 figure mark... your best bet is to visit the stone yard and see what they have... some places will also highly discount leftover scrap...
#7
Safety Car
I would lay the all the stones out to where you want them to lay. Then I would take a small drywall saw and cut around the stone enough where it is even with the bottom of the grass. Finally dig out the cut the piece and place your stone in the form.
You can put a little sand or pea gravel in each form if you want. It helps with drainage and keep each stone level.
The work isn`t bad, A Saturday should do it. The only drawback in my opinion is after you cut the grass you have to possibly take a leaf blower and blow grass off each stone.
You can put a little sand or pea gravel in each form if you want. It helps with drainage and keep each stone level.
The work isn`t bad, A Saturday should do it. The only drawback in my opinion is after you cut the grass you have to possibly take a leaf blower and blow grass off each stone.
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#8
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I haven't done this but I can't imagine just laying them on top, it would look very unfinished IMO. I guess, you could drive the car over them a few times to get them to sink down some but judging from the houses you were looking at, I can't imagine you would like this look. The other big concern would be maintenance. If you have all the rocks sunk into the same level as the grass, you can pretty much take a mower and carefully drive it over them to cut the grass in between. If you sit the stone on top on the grass, you are going to have to get a weed eater to cut between them because I would imagine they would destroy your blades and blow chunks of rocks all over if you tried to mow them.
Again, I could be wrong but something to think about. I'm guessing the correct way to do this is treat it like any other paver install, clear all the grass, level, base, etc then plant grass but....
Again, I could be wrong but something to think about. I'm guessing the correct way to do this is treat it like any other paver install, clear all the grass, level, base, etc then plant grass but....
as long as the pieces of flagstone are big enough, you can get away with just laying it on top... cut the grass as short as possible and then lay the stone on top... the grass will grow up around the stones...
you usually have to worry about a solid base if the pavers are smaller and you are trying to level out a section... depending on where you are in NJ, there are three stone places that i used...
Pavers, Retaining Walls | Fairfield,Lincoln Park,Caldwell,Wayne,Cedar Grove, NJ
Curley Stone Company, Inc. | Masonry & Landscape Supplies
Home - Atlantic Stone IIAtlantic Stone II
you usually have to worry about a solid base if the pavers are smaller and you are trying to level out a section... depending on where you are in NJ, there are three stone places that i used...
Pavers, Retaining Walls | Fairfield,Lincoln Park,Caldwell,Wayne,Cedar Grove, NJ
Curley Stone Company, Inc. | Masonry & Landscape Supplies
Home - Atlantic Stone IIAtlantic Stone II
Last edited by 1StGenCL; 06-17-2016 at 03:22 PM.
#9
Team Owner
If just laid on top, it will look unfinished. Plus, mowing will be incredibly difficult. As pointed out, lay them, cut the grass, remove grass, drop them in. It'll look great.
#10
Ex-OEM King
Another option is to get a sod cutter and remove all the grass in the strip from point A to B, lay the stones, fill gaps with dirt, and plant grass seed in between.
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I haven't done this but I can't imagine just laying them on top, it would look very unfinished IMO. I guess, you could drive the car over them a few times to get them to sink down some but judging from the houses you were looking at, I can't imagine you would like this look. The other big concern would be maintenance. If you have all the rocks sunk into the same level as the grass, you can pretty much take a mower and carefully drive it over them to cut the grass in between. If you sit the stone on top on the grass, you are going to have to get a weed eater to cut between them because I would imagine they would destroy your blades and blow chunks of rocks all over if you tried to mow them.
Again, I could be wrong but something to think about. I'm guessing the correct way to do this is treat it like any other paver install, clear all the grass, level, base, etc then plant grass but....
Again, I could be wrong but something to think about. I'm guessing the correct way to do this is treat it like any other paver install, clear all the grass, level, base, etc then plant grass but....
#15
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Thanks guys. We are in the process of closing. Trying to weigh the options of how to treat this defunct garage situation. This is the cheapest alternative.
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